WeAreThePigs

4 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

Nah, you are missing the point. It’s not about the points it’s about Liam showing he has the nous to beat lower placed teams who are likely to still have something to play for when they rock up at the Gate. This is a massive blip on the Manning performance so far and if he shows no signs of rectifying it this season then why should anyone have more confidence he will next?

Just because YOU don’t understand something it doesn’t make it nonsense. It’s not ALL about points.

It’s not about points but you bring up a points based target, you couldn’t make it up!. 

Just now, Fuber said:

View point would shift more the point. But as I said, I don't think, for example, beating WBA and drawing Leicester would help Mannings case when the point of the orignal post was a minimum of two wins, and at least five good performances (indicating separate of any result).

So hypothetically, say we win at WBA, drawing Leicester; but then go onto draw at Rotherham and lose the rest of our games this season - what then? The post isn't nonsense - it's questioning what the goals should be to end of season now we're ultimately 95% safe of relegation.

Tbh you did just say it things would shift which I’m glad emphasises my point - all this “what ifs” you mention, I really don’t find interesting, and pretty pointless, sorry. 

Just now, Fuber said:

He's not referenced WBA or Leicester as I think he's ignoring the idea of us picking up anything against them. I'm of the same mind being frank.

If we get anything pretty sure @Numero Uno viewpoint would shift slightly. But say we draw against both, doubt then losing all three of the aforementioned fixtures around us alleviates any pressure on Manning. Appreciate the optimism of thinking we'll get diddly out of Leicester and WBA though, wish I was as optimistic.

Thanks for confirming my point - yes the points total would shift, which is why the initial post is nonsense in the first place. 

Just now, Fuber said:

Quoting his OP post"

Two wins MINIMUM out of Huddersfield, Blackburn and Rotherham

A MINIMUM of five of our remaining nine games where people come away generally having enjoyed the football on offer.

Not sure where you've pulled wins against WBA and Leicester unless you mean the tongue in cheek off-comments made as we do worse against teams under or around us under Manning in general and misconstrued them.

I’m not trying to be rude but do I really need to explain this? They are saying that we need a minimum of 6 points against those 3 games or he deserves the sack - I’m saying what happens if he wins against Lei/WBR and then picks 5 points up? That he should be sacked? I mean I’m pretty suprised I have to explain this but it evidences why his post  is so flawed. 

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

I’ve suggested Michael Duff.  I’m sure there are other candidates out there too.  I don’t really track managers.

There isn’t a vacancy.

Just now, Fuber said:

What about Numero's post is unreasonable?

If we let Pearson get away with worse he would be equally critiqued, like he was before the WBA when his job was on the line.

According to their post if we beat Leicester, West Brom and Rotherham and draw with Blackburn and Huddersfield - Manning should be sacked, that is unreasonable and just pure nonsense tbh. 

1 hour ago, Numero Uno said:

Not gonna go backwards and forwards all day, as we'll never agree, but I would imagine there will be a figure on season ticket sales where Bristol Sport will turn round and say "we can't have that". It might not be my figure...............

There may be a figure, I just found it strange that you were so linear with your expectations, it just doesn’t work that way. 

28 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

If we sell 12,800 season tickets too right he should be fired. 100%. It's a forum, a place to post your opinions. As you and your crowd are fond of saying "if you don't like it move on past". Ironic that your mob are always bellyaching about attacking the poster too................

You are absolutely entitled to your opinion, I just think it’s a pretty desperate take.

Just now, Numero Uno said:

Go on then, tell me what is unreasonable in that lot.

So we beat Leicester and West Brom but only pick up 5 points from the above, therefore he should be sacked - nonsense. We sell 12800 STs he should be sacked - more nonsense. I mean why would you even post this other than looking for attention, part of the “look at me brigade”. oh and before you ask NP should never have been sacked and LM has been a disappointment, no doubts about that….but your linear points aren’t reflected in reality, which I’m sure you know already.
 

2 hours ago, Numero Uno said:

I hear a lot of comments saying "he needs more time", "what can he do with these players" (despite being brought in to improve "these players") plus some complete and utter dribbling mess by the Tekkers Dictator about everyone being happy after Southampton etc. etc. Surely there has to be a common ground of targets that he needs to hit WITH THESE PLAYERS over the last nine games otherwise the club need to be ruthless and say thanks Liam but you ain't doing it and we can't risk giving you £6m and failing. For me:

MINIMUM 59 Points (same as last season)

Two wins MINIMUM out of Huddersfield, Blackburn and Rotherham

A MINIMUM of five of our remaining nine games where people come away generally having enjoyed the football on offer

13K MINIMUM Season Tickets Sold (otherwise it's clear too many fans aren't on board with him)

Anything less than the above and I think it's fair to fire him. Anything unfair in the above?

I despair at some of our fan base.

We got him for 3 years +1 so that is good business. 

52 minutes ago, NickJ said:

Looks like you were right, although as you will see I don't agree Birmingham was worse.

Don't agree Birmingham was worse. I'm talking about entertainment, from both teams, not the performance from Bristol Cty. Birmingham fans would have been happy. The game against Swansea was dire with no effort from either team to entertain and frankly an insult to people who are paid a fraction of the so called entertainers.

 

Yes, exactly. Front foot, thats what weve been told, from a top 6 quality squad.

 

That isn't a conclusion you can sensibly reach from posts on here. We won, that isn't the issue. The issue is the dire "entertainment".

 

Again, I've looked through this entire thread and haven't seen one moan about winning. Granted, a couple have said winning was bad because they hoped a loss would have resulted in Manning's sacking - which in any case I very much doubt would have happened.

I can honestly say that game was even worse than some of the dross served up under SOD, although I suspect you probably didn't see any of that, count yourself lucky.

From what I've seen from your other posts, you are probably going to respond with an abusive/sarcastic/derogatory irrelevance. 

 

 

 

Let’s be honest you judging BCFC performances on the entertainment value of the opposition is a unique take. 

1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said:

You think that's how Manning wants to play the game? Seriously? His MK and Oxford sides would suggest he prefers a different style.

Today was what he needed to do, strong defensive shape limit the opposition to very little. Going back to basics, lots of managers do this when they come in, Mannign obviously feels like he needed to do the same after the bad run. Once he gets some of his own players in I’m hopeful we will see a different Brand.

1 minute ago, steviestevieneville said:

The worry is that he can’t adapt . It’s pretty clear he inherited a squad that’s not capable of playing the way he wants . He’s unable though to set us up as needed & change slowly as he gets the players he wants . That must be a big worry , it is for me. 

Yes i agree 

Just now, Sir Geoff said:

 

You asked the question " doesn't he get the chance with his own players.?" 

Why are you bringing up past managers ?

Because I want to know how many players these managers signed and whether they had the chance to get their own players in , LJ NP did, can’t remember Holden.

8 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I assume you mean - wanting City to lose?

Nothing could be further from the truth in my case.  I want City to succeed.  I think it’s a cheap argument to say that.

re the Poll - I saw nothing to change my mind from last Saturday which was sack.

I don’t care how the fanbase judge, but if the fanbase find themselves saying “it’s about the result today” I think it’s a bit hypocritical to “but we play well on Tuesday” when losing to Ipswich.  Ditto re other facets too, e,g. Subs, game management, etc.

Personally I’d rather judge on the “whole lot”, but that’s me.

 

Each individual has their own perspective I can’t comment for you. Well my view is the “whole lot” is that Manning has disappointed so far yet he has done enough to merit time, and some players who he wants to recruit. 

38 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

No, it wasn't his remit.

How many of 'his' players do you anticipate. A whole team / squad ?

Just one or two ?

Please enlighten us to how many he needs of his players he needs to have us playing his way...whatever that is.

How many players did Pearson Holden Johnson sign? 

1 minute ago, Sandhurst Red said:

Another 'look at me, look at me' post. Simply put - Bore off. 

If you don't like it, don't go. Stop making yourself out that you're important. This place has become so negative and poisoned, and irrespective of the football, it's down to the attitude of the posters. 

Yes today was poor. And yes we've not been great recently, but give Manning a chance. We saw far worse games under Pearson.

Well said. 

1 minute ago, Numero Uno said:

Five of those matches with the progressive young coach in charge……add today, that’s half a dozen. Preston (a), Sheffield Weds (a) etc. etc. That’s a lot of crap he’s delivered so far……..:

Ok? I was just answering the question about performance not interested in the wider Mannijg spell debate.

13 minutes ago, Curr Avon said:

Is it? It was a poor performance, but we won and some unity wouldn't go amiss. 

Too many people hoping for the worst just to prove a point.

27 minutes ago, NickJ said:

Which ones?

Birmingham H, Leeds H, Cardiff H, Millwall H, QPR H/A. 

42 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said:

That was bloody terrible. Literally the worse performance of the season. 

Unfortunately all it’s done is give Manning breathing space.

Making that my last visit to the gate this season. Can no longer sit through it and cant celebrate even when they win.

“Unfortunately”. That says it all. Your heart must have sank when the goal went in. Pathetic.

3 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said:

That was bloody terrible. Literally the worse performance of the season. 

Unfortunately all it’s done is give Manning breathing space.

Making that my last visit to the gate this season. Can no longer sit through it and cant celebrate even when they win.

Worse games than that this season.

Back - for now.

Mehmeti playing with some confidence now.