Rich

1 minute ago, BTRFTG said:

I remind it is DERBY were talking about here....

Amounts should not be in dispute as players will have documents showing earnings and sales receipts will have been recorded.

Simply a case of Morris finding HMRC a soft touch and using their latitude to fund business rather than he.

Perhaps I haven't explained myself very well. If the monthly returns given to HMRC  are not lodged in time and the payments made are not on time, then penalties are issued by HMRC in the form of fines, they are issued on an automated system. From personnel experience, I have made returns and payments by the due date but, that due date has fallen after 5pm on a Friday evening. It then doesn't get registered until Monday morning and an automatic penalty is issued, you then have to appeal this within a certain time limit. If DCFC were so poor in their administrative duties that they never appealed these penalties, then it could possibly be disputed by any prospective buyer that either It's not owed to HMRC or they won't pick up the tab for those failings by the previous administration. 

There's also the personal liability to HMRC if as a company, they haven't completed their returns in a legally required way. Meaning someone within the DCFC admin is liable to prosecution.

1 minute ago, Northern Red said:

The reports I saw earlier in the week suggested it was between him and Michael Duff for the Blackpool gig.

Same story I read I expect and the next morning, messing up my exclusive.

26 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said:

Don't mind me saying but those are stupid names for your grandchildren.

Agreed but, they are easy to remember. Fortunately none of them was a girl, or your reply might have been different and inappropriate.

4 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Yes, £36m is correct, and as you say a combo of unpaid VAT, NI and PAYE.  It’s not an awful lot if (as it seems) it’s been built up over a period of time!

Players are paid PAYE.  They’ve been paid the net amount, but Derby didn’t pay HMRC their bit.

As you say, built up over a period of time but, would HMRC and the collector of taxes have allowed that to happen over a period of time, as penalties are added automatically for late payment of taxes and tax returns. That's what I mean by disputable, any interested buyer might want to dispute those figures and possibly find a scapegoat, these are the legal side of things to consider. I thought, possibly wrongly, that the directors, or their bookeeper/accountants are legally obliged personally, to run the business properly and pay taxes on time and on demand?

3 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

A nice story, and I am pleased you found Dean Holden as nice as he came across when he was here.

Incidentally, I don't know your wife, but I am glad she didn't flash for Dean.

He was glad as well.

Excuse me if this has been covered before but I haven't seen it. There's lot's of talk about how much is owed to HMRC, with possible agreements to pay less over a period of time. How do we know the exact figure? HMRC won't have released it, Quantuma might have but, is it the correct figure? £36m sounds an awful lot in terms of PAYE, NI and VAT. Are players paid on a PAYE basis, or self employed? 

I only ask as whenever I've dealt with the collector of taxes, there is no leeway in the total, just an agreed payment plan. But, if the figures demanded are wrong from the outset, which is often the case, demands are issued for the incorrect figure. Automated late payment fines are then issued, along interest charged and totaled, yet the original demand was incorrect. I've made payments directly to the HMPO which is supposedly attributed instantly, only for it to be not registered until after the due date. I've then received fines for late payment and when disputing it, additional charges. So, how can we be sure this is not a disputed figure?

Just now, Port Said Red said:

Hmmm I have just "robinned" your post, is that a clue?  

I honestly don't know what the Robin denotes. Or the confused emoji, I consider that an insult, wish they'd get rid of that one.

3 minutes ago, Taz said:

 

#Deluded. 

If for example your capacity is 9,500 home supporters, and demand means you can actually physically sale 9,500, then why would you want to take them off sale?

Either that or they're trying to sell tickets for seats they haven't got. Surely nobody would ever be stupid enough to do that though would they.....

Answer 1. To increase the price.

Answer 2. Definitely not. 

4 minutes ago, Red Skin said:

Very far from professional, Rich.  My youth team hired it for a charity game.  Think that was the problem.  Any Tom, Dick and Harry could rent it and play on it.  Took a real battering.

The pitch, or your team? Closest I ever got was Keynsham Towns pitch, as a youth.

9 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

Too simple, It continues "tree's grow in a forest, forests can also be called woods, Chris Woods last club was Burnley and he now coaches for Scotland. Ergo, Wilson will sign for Burnley and get picked for Scotland!  

This is getting silly now, "stop it". 

36 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

Bees live in a hive so he`s off to Barnet............................

Hornets live in a nest, nests are in trees, Oakwell is a reference to a tree, so he's signing for Barnsley. Real Ted Rogers 321 moment there. 

35 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said:

I don’t see it as that different. Someone is suggesting that mighty Bristol City, who have never played in the premier league, should not sell a player to a ‘tinpot’ club like Bournemouth, who have spent 5 out of the last 7 seasons in the premier league and will do so again next season. It is laughable. Bournemouth are, and have been for some time, years ahead of us.

As for being called up by Ghana, as much of an achievement this is, let’s not forget their first choice keeper was our third choice keeper and currently plays in league 2. Not quite the force they were a few years ago.

Edit: The difference between the two scenarios will be the fee we receive from who signs Semenyo. But regardless who of that is, it will be a huge move for him even if our fans don’t see it that way.

Wigan were similar to Bournemouth, found their level again now without the wealth behind them and they missed out on the real riches. There was a time when clubs had to have a reasonably large supporter base to be able to compete, now as with Bournemouth and similar clubs, it's no longer the case. 

1 minute ago, archie andrews said:

apart from the seafront/pier area the rest of it is a shithole going the way of blackpool .........

Is it? I've driven around lot's of the main routes and been suitably impressed by the scale and amount of large housing, possibly retirement flats now. It is renowned for being a wealthy area.

9 hours ago, billywedlock said:

Brentford Bees, Watford are Hornets. 

Birds and the Bees.

Robins are birds, so he's signing for Swindon then.

52 minutes ago, DaveF said:

Slight difference between 30 year old Naismith already at his peak and 22 year old Semenyo who has just has his breakout season in the championship and been called up for Ghana...

As well as the financial advantage Bournemouth currently have over us, because they splashed out, well above their weight and reaped the benefits. Big catchment area but, large ageing population of London retirees.

1 hour ago, Major Isewater said:

I never imagined that in my lifetime I would be informed that BCFC are ‘ tweeting ‘ . 
 

The "Robins" have tweeted for years.

16 hours ago, Red Skin said:

I played on the plastic pitch at Kenilworth Road when they were still in the First Division.  It was awful.   Massive bounce and totally unpredictable as it had massive tears and divots in it everywhere.  Terrible skin rash if you ever attempted a slide tackle.  Made worse by the sand they spread on it in an effort to deaden the bounce.   Once was enough. 

Fair play to you, was that in a professional capacity? I remember seeing games where the opposition were really struggling with the surface speed and bounce. Ok if you're used to playing on hard surfaces but the likes of Dave Rodgers had no chance.

Just now, Port Said Red said:

I have just looked too and discovered that it was his first senior game as a striker, until then he had played as a half back (defensive midfielder in current parlance)

Even better performance then. I shouldn't laugh really, but, what the hell.

21 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

I don't think I have ever seen any other records regarding Joe Payne, but I have often wondered how many goals he scored in other games against them.

He only played about 119 games due to the WW2. Joe Payne (footballer, born 1914) - Wikipedia I note in the picture of him scoring one of "those goals" Bristol Rovers aren't wearing their famous quarters, perhaps they hadn't stolen them at that time.

1 minute ago, Engvall’s Splinter said:

Classic scouse tactics? That’s very harsh. I’ve a couple of friends who attended yesterday. Arrived at the ground at 18.30, plenty of time you would have thought alongside many a fan and found a large amount of the turnstiles were closed. There have since been multiple videos of football supporters (like us) being tear gassed when simply showing their tickets to the authorities. Other videos showing locals trying to squeeze in front at the turnstiles. Eventually one of my pals got in 25 minutes after the KO. Many of the fans have been fleeced for tickets, just to follow their club, and then miss out on the early action. UEFA blamed the fans. Absolute joke. Responses like yours are an insult. Football is broken. 

You may well think that description is harsh, sadly it is a tactic well used and, such is the dedication of some fans that, they will do anything possible to get to see their team. Liverpool being very successful have had more opportunities over the decades to expand on their knowledge. I well remember the events of Hillsborough, yet not too long after, Liverpool fans were breaking open the gates at Wembley to gain access and I'll never forget seeing both Liverpool and Everton fans scaling walls and using scarves as ropes while climbing walls and squeezing through toilet windows to get into Wembley. The recent Wembley final in the Euros is testament to what football supporters will do to gain entry, along with the MUFC protest.

17 hours ago, cidered abroad said:

All the mickey taking about Luton. They have been in FA Cup final and won the League Cup and played in the top tier since 1945 for a lot longer than we have. Poor stadium, not too many fans but still more success than BCFC in the last 75 years than us. We haven't been out of the league but only a couple of League Cup Semi Finals and four years in Division One. If we want to gloat, pick on a club like Rochdale or BRFC! 

This tends to happen quite a bit with teams in and around London, no matter how small they are. There is an excess of top class footballers looking for a team and pay packet, without having to move home. Stands to reason that the smaller clubs in and around London pick up those excess players and actually perform above what would be their their natural status, based on attendances and local population. Given Luton and also QPR both had an unfair advantage by allowing a plastic pitch, which most probably assisted them in being more successful than they would otherwise have been, during the 70's and 80's, their most recent successful period, since which time they've spent in the 3rd 4th and 5th tiers of English football. 

Purely hypothetical I know but, if we were that bit closer to the capital, I'm pretty confident we'd have surpassed the likes of Fulham, Palace, QPR, let alone those on the periphery like Watford and Reading.

There is however one success Luton have had over us, which I don't think we could ever come near. That is, the most goals scored against one team in a football league match. Stand up and take a bow MR Joe Payne, for scoring 10 goals against Bristol Rovers in 1936. Luton Town and Joe Payne I salute you.

4 hours ago, Numero Uno said:

Wasn’t just the saves though. The thing that all non goalkeepers seem to overlook is that he was dominating when Liverpool got a bit desperate and started loading the box. That’s what sorts out the Goalkeeping men from the boys. Too many see goalkeepers make brilliant saves and say “great keeper” and say he “had no chance” when he’s rooted to his line conceding a four yard header………

Someone who knows what they're talking about. Were you a number one?

We've regularly been put in the relegation frame by bookies, for as long as I can remember. If not, not fancied for promotion. It's how the rest of the football world sees us as well.

21 hours ago, bcfcredandwhite said:

 Not a ‘rule’ per say, but I wondered if in knockout games like playoffs, the teams should take the penalty shootouts BEFORE the game. 
it might make the open play more interesting - particularly the Extra Time period?

just thought I’d put it out there…….

Am I correct in thinking we lost a penalty shoot out at Walsall, to decide where the play off replay was to be held?