Portland Bill

Radio Bristol commentator's said someone who had seen the incident on the tv said, it was an off the ball elbow to the head! No doubt we will see it for ourselves over the next 24 hours and can make up our own minds!

Radio just said,that tv said, it was an elbow off the ball !

I'll say it again.i was answering Barr Court's post on Syria. But I'm glad I have you the chance to have a rant

We were talking about Syria.

As I understand it, the chemical weapons were used " before" the commons debate Esmond refers to? As for the Congo, how about Rwanda? Did John Major do anything while the slaughter went on in that country? I guess he was to busy shagging Edwina.

Blair,Mandelson etc were the decision makers in power,different people make the decisions now. Yes,a policy shift, or is that wrong as well! Hypocrisy is when the same people make different decisions. For example, do you think Cameron is a hypocrit for changing the view of the Thatcher Tory party over Hillsborough?

Really? So you were happy for this country to do exactly what YOU have said was wrong with the Iraq invasion? Labour asked for evidence,if it was conclusive they would have backed the government.

Fair enough mate, we aren't going to agree re the bias,but I totally respect and to a degree agree with your views of the political parties.

There is no doubt that Ukip will do well in the EU elections,a very low turnout will obviously help them. But I still struggle to see where they will get MP's in 2015. The 18-20% in the opinion polls ( edit,actually 12%) will have to go up to 35% plus in constituency's to get MP's. I just don't see it happening.

I know, and it's reflected in the QT audience. When Labour were in power they came in for more stick from the QT audience,now it's the Tory's turn, Screech wouldn't have claimed the audience 5 years ago was pro Tory,but now the boots on the other foot he's using the old bias claim. Let's remember, the Tories have no mandate from the people,they weren't popular enough to win a majority in the 2010 election and now are even less popular!

The thing is, I obviously watch QT from a completely different angle than you. I see people every week that are quite clearly members of the Tory party,it doesn't take a genius to spot them. You probably see people who to you are quite clearly Labour members. We all see things differently,but to you it's political bias,to me it's because more people dislike this government than like it.

Haha that old one,perhaps the audience is just a reflection of what the people actually think of this government,ever thought of that! No one is stopping you from going in the QT audience,it's open to all. Just as a matter of interest. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/bbc-accused-ofpolitical-bias--on-the-right-not-the-left-9129639.html

I agree with you,oil was obviously the main reason,the fact that Bush was financed by the American oil industry had a big bearing as well. The main reason Iraq stood out over the likes of Zimbabwe was the use of Chemical weapons being used on the people. It's a bigger story for the media to get there teeth into. The media control ( most people) what they want us to think and see.

His cousin wasn't nicknamed Chemical Ali for nothing was he. Saddam Hussain is one of the 20th century's most evil men. But it's ok,OTIB posters have proof that it was all the Labour Party fault!!

Serious question,who was going to stop Saddam Hussein from killing his own people? Let's face it,it could have still been going on now.

Ah right,so Saddam Hussain hadn't already gassed to death thousands of his own innocent woman and children then ?? Who knows what he was going to do next. As Red Robbo says,Its not a defence of Blair, but someone somewhere would have eventually done something about Saddam Hussain.

Or you could talk about the Labour government in the late 70's who sent a task force to the Falkland isles. A task force that stopped any Argentine thoughts of invasion. Unlike a few years later when ( again) Tory cuts ( HMS Endurance) gave the Argies the thoughts of invasion. War monger Thatcher then had her wishes granted!

More than likely! I'm no apoligist for the last Labour government, far from it. Blair was a Tory as far as I'm concerned. Not as extreme as the current mob though.

This could go on for ever if were going tit for tat! I haven't got the time today

The irony of this is, this government have borrowed more in 4 years than the last Labour government did in 13 years!

The Socialist Labour Party. Labour themselves are a watered down Tory party.

I haven't mentioned labour? I said left!

Not bashing, laughing!! Ukip are going to do a great job for all of us on the left,they are going to split the Tory vote.