ooRya

Thanks for that!

What is NFC?

If I can't attend a game and want to give my ticket to someone else, but they don't have a smartphone, what then?

Nige has said several times that he isn't going to sign players for the sake of it, only if they're better than what we have.  I'm struggling to name a player that he's better than. 

49 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

 

I don't think there has been one single comment, in this thread, from an 'older' person actually saying they can't use a mobile phone. 

Perhaps they don't use the internet.......................

I really hope for Semenyo's sake that Palace do come in for him.

Whilst he will undoubtedly get a lot more money, which I totally understand, I can't believe that playing for Bournemouth is the "Premiership Dream" that a lot of players aspire to.

5 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

First time for a long long time I’ve been disappointed about a player leaving 

Yeah, totally agree with this.

I can't remember the last time we had a striker with pace and power, and will probably be a long time until we see one again.

27 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

Sure, a lot relates to context and intent. Just not intending to be rude/homophobic isn't a good excuse for saying whatever you like though. Just because you don't mean to cause offence doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Are you morally wrong? I don't know. Not sure I'd go that far personally. Are you perhaps pretty inconsiderate, or sometimes a bit of a dick? Yeah maybe. Could it be funny in the right situation - maybe privately with a well known group of friends? Sure.

 

In your situation above, if you were from the middle east, had no mates at school due to how you looked, were bullied, felt you were passed over on jobs due to it, had abuse shouted at you in the past, every time you got on a bus or train you could see people looking at you out the corner of your eyes, mistrusting you, if you had that for 20 years say. Continuously. Then you're sat in the pub, having a quiet pint, and someone makes a loud Bin Laden joke, well that's probably going to make you rather shit, or at least uncomfortable, no? Put yourself in someone in that groups shoes, not your own shoes.

You don't see anything wrong, because it's an isolated incident to you and you're in the group with power in that situation. I would be too in that situation, it's a fact not a criticism. The people in the group who are being mocked or associated with something undesirable (wearing something on his head - a well known muslim - might have a bomb or whatever) will feel differently though.

Replay the same situation but being gay, the mental anguish of maybe coming out to family and friends, the isolation many people feel/felt, and so on. Your gay example also has loads of other connotations (which I'm sure you didn't mean) but it's rooted in people's perception that gay folk were dangerous, more likely to be involved in sexual assault, and that kind of thing.

These things aren't offensive unless you're in the group who are being targeted.

As I said though, I wouldn't think you were some morally reprehensible scum... but I'd hope if someone explained to you, you'd go "Oh shit sorry mate, I had no idea, I'll try not to say that again"

Thank you for that considered response.

I DO get where you're coming from, but at the same time still struggle with how people are so easily offended these days.

Having said that, I will readily admit to being of the generation that grew up during the 1970's - a decade where stereotypes were one of the main sources of humour/comedy, so accept that I'm probably very "out of date!"

4 minutes ago, richwwtk said:

I would say that, if you choose to use gay names on a straight person as a form of abuse, then in your eyes there is obviously something wrong or 'pisstake' worthy about being gay. A very definition of homophobia is it not?

Not necessarily.

Nothing wrong with being gay, but pisstake worthy? Maybe,

Let's say I had a friend (John) who has just had an ear operation. I'm sat in the pub with some other friends, and in walks John with a bandage wrapped around his head. "look out, Osama Bin Laden has just walked in" I shout.

Now, whether you would find that funny or not, would you argue that I am morally wrong to have made that comment?

Not trying to be controversial, but this is where I struggle when people start to take offence, as I wouldn't see anything wrong with the above scenario. Similarly, if John walked into the pub wearing a pink shirt and I said "backs to the wall lads", I struggle to see why that would be offensive rather than funny.

Totally different context to chanting at a football match I agree, so maybe I'm straying from the original point a bit, but I am genuinely interested in how people actually perceive the meaning of homophobia to be.

15 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

The law changed in 2010 so there is now a concept of “discrimination by perception”. It was brought in specifically because straight people who were perceived as homosexual were experiencing abuse and discrimination and had no legal rights up until that point. 

Thanks for that explanation.

However, as most people's comments seem to be based on a moral stance rather than a legal stance, I am still interested to know what those people's interpretation of homophobia is in relation to calling straight people gay names.

A genuine question............what is homophobia?

I totally understand that to persecute a gay person, either by words or actions, is clearly homophobic, but if for example one were to call a straight person a queer, or similar, I struggle to see how that falls under the homophobia label.

7 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

If we did ever join forces, the best thing to do would be to take the 'Bristol' from their name and the 'City' from ours to get your new club.

Yes, and for a kit we could take the red from our kit and the white from theirs. 

18 hours ago, Bobbie said:

Well if no one is denying it then a whole lot fail to mention it. We are not in the bottom 3 and haven’t looked like a relegation side on the vast majority of games. Have some patience 

Ha ha ha ha ha.........................................How many more decades do we give?

4 minutes ago, Bobbie said:

Lansdown has made plenty of mistakes over the years but to sack Pearson now would be the biggest of the lot. 
 

The bloke is sorting our club out from top to bottom. Let’s hope SL doesn’t listen to the brain dead sections of our fan base 

I don't think anyone is denying that point.

However, some of us aren't prepared to fall headlong into League 1 while he does it.

And my brain works fine thanks.

2 hours ago, Marcus Aurelius said:

#politicalcorrectnessraisesIT IS(?)headagain   I didn't miss the irony on this one! I don't want to make assumptions myself but it's often the uneducated with the ridiculous views.

What a totally pompous response. Self  gratification  on a completely different level. 

42 minutes ago, Peter1450 said:

Don’t remember anyone complaining during the England women’s goal celebrations, sad reflection of today’s society when we have to find fault with everything, if only people could find some joy in life!

Apparently it's due to a shortage of Shetland Ponies.

Too many high horses around.

* Disclaimer * I would like to apologise to any Shetland Ponies that may be reading this, or anybody else that feels the need to take offence on their behalf.

1 hour ago, phantom said:

Errr that's more than a little creepy 

No, it really isn't

#politicalcorrectnessraisesit'sheadagain

I really want to be positive, as I'm sure we all do, and of course I'll be there on Saturday cheering the team on.

BUT............I really do worry that if we keep hiding behind excuses, we're risking sleepwalking into relegation.

33 minutes ago, BTRFTG said:

And as any Leicester fan will attest it was his squad that formed the basis of the side with which The Tinkerman won the Premier. 

But that's the relevant bit isn't it.

Pearson is a "name" nothing more.

Any other manager that wasn't a "name" would have 90% of the fan base calling for his sacking by now.

Just now, TomF said:

I wonder if NP could walk away 

Please

I don't think we have it in us to play for a draw, and quite right too IMO.

We know that we can beat anyone in this league, we just need everybody on form, as we're not strong enough to carry passengers.

And cut out the stupid bloody mistakes!!

14 minutes ago, footie said:

I wouldn't say that, Mr Carter is infamous in the Bristol City Twitter world for quoting our win ratio percentage after every loss without taking the vast amount of other factors into account, that's what I personally was referring to.

OK, I don't do twitter so wouldn't know.

However, even though there are other factors to consider, surely the win ratio is the most relevant factor of all?

21 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Urban dictionary:

Mark Carter - a grown man, a city fan, who acts like a big baby!

Oh I see......I'm being insulted for having an opinion.

Fair enough.

18 minutes ago, footie said:

Hi Mark Carter

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