LoyalRed

Still trying to work out why this is not on sky cricket, they were outbid for the ashes ?! I guess as it’s overnight it’s not as popular to watch.

We were just at the point where it looked like the U.K. (England) would be the first country in the world to move into the endemic stage without having to introduce vaccine passports. Then suddenly Boris is being framed, a new variant is in play and vaccine passports get introduced. What rotten timing...

Could have been very useful and still could be but there is not enough staff in the NHS to man them. With the 1% payrise after the year they had then can’t see too many people wanting to join up either. Also the government are sacking a million nhs staff during the height of a pandemic so they can’t be too worried.

Are you a scientist ? Just wondering where you get your information ?

I don't think you can put this solely on Johnson's shoulders, can't really see any other party challenging to step up as nobody wants it. I also feel like a lot of the country are under the same opinion that they have been misled/misguided/lied to and that number is growing everyday and the rest are living in fear.

Pub Xmas Eve - early drinks... its an essential tradition for me at xmas.

They have 4 children so an array for ages ranging from 16 to 5. They holiday pretty much everywhere, from cruises in the Caribbean to Skiing trips and sunshine holidays in Europe.

Was chatting to some friends of ours last night (early 40's with 4 kids). They were the first in the queue to get their jabs as all they wanted to do was to get on holiday and get some sun, which they achieved this summer. Now they realize in order to do the same again next summer they will need to get a booster and vaccinate their young children as well. This has resulted in them believing they were forced or coerced into getting the jab by the Government.

Far too many people want the easy way out. The easy way out for most is to roll up their sleeve and get the booster and then head off to Greggs for their fix. You are right though, if they used the same scare tactics to encourage people to exercise then it might scare them enough to get off their sofa's.

My last views on Vaccine Passports as I can already see the friendly bunch from the politics/covid forum have found the topic and now want to take over it with their scientific opinions and bash others that don't follow the same narrative as them. If "Vaccine Passports" are purely in place just to try and stop the spread of this new Omricon variant then I don't have a problem with it. I won't be attending any games that have this "Vaccine Passport" in place but as long as it is just in place for this measure (although we have already seen in nightclubs in France that it doesn't work), then so be it. If in another month we find out that no-one has died of Omricon and hospital numbers are not really increasing drastically then we should all expect these measures to be immediately lifted! The reason I won't be attending the games is because I can see the "Vaccine Passport", aside from sacking Care/NHS staff as another Draconian Measure to be introduced in this country. We all should be aware of where this can lead, @Med/MadHatter himself posted about how he is now singled out in Canada and can only visit shops and we are seeing the same across Europe. Anyone that agrees with "Vaccine Passports" should ask themselves how far it would need to go before they didn't agree with it. At what point could the "Vaccine Passport" become an issue for them? At the moment the majority of people don't have an issue with it, double/triple jabbed and its simple to carry the passport as an app on the phone. But perhaps some people have opted against having their kids vaccinated for now...what if they UP the "Vaccine Passports" for children and then you can't take your kids to the game? What if they add another "Vaccine" to the "Vaccine Passport" that you don't think you need or want? Would that then effect you when you lost your passport or were forced into taking a vaccine you didn't think you needed? It all depends on whether this is a temporary measure or a money making exercise but the fact that every country is following the same narrative suggests is more about £££ than health. The timing of the announcement couldn't be more perfect either, just as Boris is at threat to resign over a Christmas party he announces Plan B. Everyone has been effected by this Pandemic, we all have stories, some worse than others but everyone has been effected in some way. It is not a selfish act to say we don't want "Vaccine Passports" in place.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/science/bill-gates-smallpox-terror-attack-b1958789.html%3famp

Well I can't find the same chart for England but this is Scotland,

@IAmNick I hope you are going to keep the goal updates coming ?

Aren't under 17's exempt from needing to show the covid pass? How is making life difficult again for over 18's going to help and encourage the elderly back when the highest covid rates right now are in the under 18's? We are going to have to live with this for a very long time. We have already done lots to protect the elderly (I have personally been working from home for the past 2 years). There does need to be a point when we find a new normal but I can't really see a sudden rush by the elderly to come back to Ashton Gate just because there is a covid passport in place. The threat of them catching it still exists unfortunately.

Yes agree, just found it a high % (mainly in older people though as has always been the case). Sadly, even with a vaccine passport in place, that number won't change.

Page 17 is a little more scary, Total Deaths in 28 days - 2772 Vaccinated: 2285 - 82% Unvaccinated: 487

Page 16 - https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1029606/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-43.pdf

Actually its not true. Total number of patients in hospital: 8338 Vaccinated in hospital: 5506 - 66% Unvaccinated in hospital: 2832 - 33%

Even if what @Son of Fred is saying is true, someone else posted that there are only 48 ICU beds in Southmead. 90% of them are full? There are over 280,000 people in South Gloucestershire...

The only way you can prevent yourself from catching it is by staying at home, going to games with your vaccine passport isn't going to protect you. If there was some spacing involved, e.g. you have to sit 3 seats away from each other whether it is each side of you, in front of you or behind you,... then likely you would be safe.

Ask the staff if there are overwhelmed then. Half of them are going off sick with stress, the government are sacking the other half.

2 years into a pandemic and 48 ICU beds ?

996 beds in southmead hospital and there are 50 beds occupied with covid patients right now, 60% of which are unvaccinated. Hospitals are not overwhelmed with covid despite what is being said.

I think you have just summed up how pointless it is, faking a lateral flow to get in surely defeats the purpose ?

Sorry to hear your story. It really is now a mad world we live in and too many people are in acceptance of it.