Eddie Hitler

They must be insane letting Farage have this platform; he'll annihilate them.

Arsene Wenger is the master of this (selling players at their peak for maximum profit)

 

It can actually be classed as good management. I just wish we had him on a 3 yr contract not a 2 yr one

Agreed but I doubt we could ever realistically afford Jet, even when we bought him, it may have been a gamble to make money by buying a highly-talented under-performing player and then showing what he can do before selling him on at a profit.

As has been said he doesn't really fit into our team structure, he's just so bloody good he's got to be on.

He's being realistic.

In the past we've waited until our best players are either near the end of their contracts or go off the boil, the time to sell a player is when they're playing at their peak which is when other clubs want him.

When you're in a hole STOP digging  

I'm mightily peed off as I got back early to hear it.  They definitely say online with Andy Howard commentating as it's FA cup.

Pffft, cup of coffee then.

you're just a little tease now ,are n't you Eddie 

 

there never was a live broadcast, i tuned in at a minute to kick off and there was absolutely no sound.

I just listened to TTB again as I was beginning to doubt myself.

At 6.09, definitely says it will be available online.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01jw6v1

In case anybody isn't aware it was flagged on TTB last night that this game, as it's FA Cup rather than league, is available on Radio Bristol over the internet.

Errr, they seem to have forgotten and are repeating TTB like they usually do.

I just tried Radio Essex and they are broadcasting but haven't mention D&R yet.  Maybe they count as London.

In case anybody isn't aware it was flagged on TTB last night that this game, as it's FA Cup rather than league, is available on Radio Bristol over the internet.

Suggestion (which I can't claim credit for) that to put pressure on the club to rescind these arbitrary and unfair lifetime bans for a whole heap of nothing at Cardiff / the derby that there is a boycott of the FA Cup R1 game and an associated demo is held rather than just staying in the pub.

There is a big difference between the club not condoning violence and it banning lifelong fans for incredibly minor offences. The club is not claiming the moral high ground here, just acting like a newly-appointed moderator who has just discovered the ban button.

They may have the approval of a couple of mouthy keyboard warriors but to the average fan they come across as petty and vindictive.

Lifetime ban?

 

I admit I went on the pitch after the Rotherham game and shall hereby ban myself for life from Ashton Gate.

No way, you don't get out of it that easily!

I'm sorry that I can't respond to this as I'd like to for fear of disclosing too much, but needless to say it's never ideal to telegraph to suspect that he/she is getting arrested.

 

And your whole post is full of assumptions you're using to try to evidence your point.

 

Ok, so the unwritten answer is that these are in fact nasty pieces of work who would go on the run if they knew that they were going to be arrested.  And that I am wrong to assume otherwise.

That's fine, as it is an assumption on my part and these are sometimes wrong. I have no inside knowledge and no axe to grind.

If you say this is poprtionate and appropriate, based upon information that you have, then I will accept that. The test will be that these 16 are in found guilty of criminal offences when they come to trial.

You seem to be of the opinion that no one should get their comeuppance?

 

Unnecessary escalation? I know time is a healer pal, but have you not forgotten exactly what went on? Sure a few people ran on the pitch, but you rather fittingly seem to have forgotten that people were hit by coins and chairs. Would you rather just sweep it all under the carpet?

 

This isn't about police killing people, or raiding the wrong houses, it's about football fans who took things too far that night. They deserve to get arrested by whatever means possible.

 

As for writing to said suspects, what a ridiculous suggestion!

Why is that ridiculous? We are not talking about career criminals. How often is there law-breaking violence at a Bristol City game? Six times a year absolute tops.

So if any of these are repeat offenders then they're not doing it very often and are not about to go on the run because of it.

So you write to them to come in, some will do so. Where they don't then you issue a warrant for their arrest and then you can do your dawn raid.

I accept that not every one of those involved is a decent lad who got carried away, there are some nasty pieces of work out there, but when you get up to 16 people being arrested in dawn raids for some trouble on the pitch then the word that you are looking for is "disproportionate".  Save those kind of exercises for terrorists and armed robbers where there is every reason to do so.

Each raid will require numerous police officers. Some of the crimes will be for nothing more than men running on grass, men making silly "come on then gestures" and breaking the Eastend hardly robust seats. Scary stuff.

This will cost tens of thousands for low level crimes, or no crimes at all. Money wasted when homes in BS4 get burgled you often have to wait 24 hrs for the police to start their investigation. Crime should be prioritised, not used for tasty media sound bites.

Its a "look at us" gimmick for the media to make middle England feel safe in their homes.

Well I'm looking at them and thinking "clowns"!

Here's a novel idea. When are you most likely to catch someone at home?

The fact people are slating the police is pretty embarrassing.

We are not talking about police-murderer Dale Cregan with a grenade and a bolthole in Spain here.  These are some local people who presumably overstepped the mark at a local football game.

Why did they not just write to them and ask them to arrange a date to come in to their local station for an interview?

I hope they get a serious grilling from the local media for this pointless circus and whichever senior officer that sanctioned this gets disciplined.

FGR have flirted with relegation for year after year so it's nice to see their fans finally getting something to celebrate.

My loyalties, such as they are*, in that region lie however with Gloucester City (yel-lows) but FGR fans are a decent bunch.

* I have just had to look up what division they are in, fourth from bottom of conference north, there were complicated reasons why they went into the north league and I'm surprised to see that they are still there.

Tel Ben Haim is still waiting for 2.5m with the money he has already got in his bank account and the shite Pompey are in you would of thought he would just walk and find another club. But no the greedy #### is holding on and would rather see the club go to the wall so long as he gets his money what a ####.

But the prospective owner, and it's his partly his fault that they are in this mess, is getting a £15m parachute payment which could easily pay these players who have written contracts saying they are owed money. Instead he wants the money for himself rather than being prepared to give it to people like Tel Ben Haim who is actually owed it. Why is Tel Ben Haim the bad guy here?

Having read many posts and articles on Pompey, the main problem is the parachute payments £15,000,000 still to come. Players are being asked to leave for a fraction of the money contracted, but the returning owner in waiting still wants his £19,000,000, but will only return with the high earners gone and the wage bill cut.

Asking a player to leave when he can see £15,000,000 coming in once the CVA is sorted, is a hard sell for anyone.

Now that hadn't been highlighted! I can see why they're sitting tight. From the administrator's actions to date (breifing against them in the press, not taking them on the Marbella training session) I would have thought they have a very good case for constructive dismissal claims.

Portsmouth fans are very switched on about this, thread on letter to players asking for pay cuts:

As I said yesterday, if the trust were taking over I'd support this entirely but if it's Chanrai why should they agree to take huge cuts just so it can go in his pocket

None of this is down to the players. I suspect their agents are busy attempting to get the best for them and the PFA are also in the mix. The negotiations are ongoing and to focus attention on to the players is unfair. I don't think anyone wants to see the club fold but anyone who finds themselves in this position is going to look for the best possible deal.

http://thepompeychimes.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=69030&sid=eec8354ece9286f6120c6a3ecd6ad690

portsmouth are using the players as a scapegoat at the moment, telling the paper Ben haim 36k a week is killing the club is a breach of contract as it is and they are opening up themselfs to all sorts of legal trouble,

The sad thing is the fans, also you can't compare the two situation we actually had players that loved our club these are just more pampered millionaires football produce now a days

The players aren't to blame as others have stated they have been offered contracts and those should be honored look at rangers, they had to form a newco and the players and staff who refused to tupe across are free agents, the same will happen at portsmouth, accept the bottom of our structure isn't sfl3 its way down about 12 tiers which where they should of been sent after the the second admin hit

Quite, different times now. The money has ruined the top tier of the game, these players came to Portsmouth because they were offered stupidly high salaries. I don't expect them to have any loyalty to the club, run as it was as a rich man's plaything. Portsmouth's operating company will hopefully fold and these rich men will lose their "investment", then the fans set up a new Portsmouth 2012 FC in Div 3 or the conference.

In 1982 players in general had loyalty to their club, the Ashton Gate 8 were exemplary but in many ways typical of their time. You could still see a few of our players behaving that honorably but could you see it for the Man City or Arsenal squads?

Wednesday by a country mile.

I don't want to see Palace go out of existence, but I do want to see them go back to non-league obscurity as that may finally make their tremendously irritating fans realise that they are not a big club; they are a very small club who had a lucky streak that lasted 20 years.

Better one for Coventry:

http://forums.iccoventry.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=1

Good one Madger, very useful info.

You still have to say he is quality football player

Yes. But wouldn't want him back for the reasons stated.

lets get him back

Let us not.

Bad attitude, frequently piss poor, steals things from dressing rooms, will want close to the £1.5m wage Fowler is asking for.

That's a

only a month?

I will have a drink. Or twelve!

I remember getting relegated in the mid-nineties. I was in a pub in Edale having just had to turn back on the Pennine way because one of the party (who had done it before but in summer) was confident he'd be fine without gloves, decent waterproof etc. Pillock. Relegation just put the cap on that.

Incidentally why does a discussion about promotion celebrations get shunted to the non-footy forum? How is this non-footy?

I've been on fora that have no division between categories, and those that do. I much prefer those that don't have the division. Apart from that the modding here is fairly light-touch, thankfully.