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"**** off behaviours, we want some outcomes" would work

I agree. The really annoying thing is we avoided what was a pretty high chance of relegation with the screw ups in the last few years that Pearson sorted out. Now we've potentially brought one on completely unnecessarily. Talk about pulling defeat from the jaws of victory. It's just beyond belief.

We appear in the list of possibilities because suckers will then put £100 bets on, which is free money for the bookies. Not because we'll go down.

Loads of managers and players have what seem like bizarre rituals they follow. In fact let's be honest, we all do. We're shit at the moment but this is reaching a bit I think.

I like the sentiment but we're losing games because we're total dog shit, not because there are 800 more away fans in the Atyeo

Implying there's a functional board at the club is a stretch even by Roy's standards!

I think there's definitely a time to get your players opinions and thoughts on your system. However, outside of the basics in case they've seen something you haven't, at half time when you have a very short period to come up with a plan, and communicate effectively so that it'll happen out in the pitch five minutes later with a reasonable sized group that isn't it. That needs clarity and direction.

Didn't bother me too much in the first half tbh but he got progressively more idiotic once it was clear they were going to win

West Brom second: https://streamin.one/v/eb188426

Really all we need is a new goalkeeper who never concedes a goal, at least one playmaker who creates multiple high quality chances every game, and then a couple of strikers who never miss chances and we'll be golden! Someone should contact the club and make sure they're aware - we might have cracked the code to winning promotion here.

Until the goal it was sort of a 6/10 on the effectiveness scale, about a 3/10 on the entertainment one. Little harsh to be going in behind perhaps but we also didn't look much like scoring - Conway's slightly fortuitous chance aside. Hopefully a bit of a change and some not back foot (I can't bring myself to say it properly...) football in the second half.

West Brom goal: https://streamin.one/v/52852331

Isn't he a West Brom ex player, fan, and commentating on some kind of West Brom tv...?! What are you expecting exactly

Yeah me too, they're actually commentating on the game and chatting about what's going on more than I'm used to on RobinsTV. Bit of passion too (even if it's for the wrong team), I think it's decent

Probably, because that's exactly why it's hard to feel optimistic at the moment - it's so unpredictable and rare when we'll put in a good performance

A lot of "I demand to speak to the manager!" energy in this thread

I'm not saying we should, just that it's more complicated than saying the cost to the club is the same whether you try and offload a player or just keep them for the duration of their contract.

Presumably though there is a cost (not necessarily monetary) of every player being at the club though - physio time, whatever training they can do, medical time, and so on? You might also be able to negotiate some lower lump sum I guess, the benefit for the player being they can take that and then potentially get a new contract elsewhere.

Ok ok, but get this - have you tried all those same songs, but randomly shouting "you ****" at the end?

Ringside seats for the apple roll though!

Right, but that's because I don't give two shits if Steve pockets £30m. I care about what's happening on the pitch, which direction the club are headed in, and if/when we do sell players - how much of that is then used to benefit the club... which appears to have been £0m. At the moment, as a fan, the only effect those sales have had on me are a) I no longer get to watch 2 of the most exciting players I've seen at AG in a long time, and b) er... that's kind of it. As far as I know we didn't need it for FFP, and even if we did the amount doesn't matter there as we weren't far off. You've talked about him being in credit with SL. Maybe he is. But what about whether he's in credit with YOU, as a fan?

You could do it across the whole of the back though no? I'm not sure if that'd help as people would be more spread out, but it's an option. I just think they should just go for it personally. You're right there are negatives and people would have to be moved but the other option is just to never make any change to anything - because you'll disturb people anywhere you try and do stuff. Half the ground have already had to move in the last 10 years due to the rebuild. It's doable. I'd give all the moved people first refusal on any other seat in the ground, and match their current season ticket price for the first year or two as a gesture of good will. The real thing to do to improve the atmosphere is improve what we're seeing on the pitch though. Shuffling folk around might help a bit, but it's not addressing the real cause of the malaise. Lots of grounds (and at times at AG) have shown that exciting football creates a good atmosphere even in crap conditions.

I don't play fantasy football and worked out what you meant, don't sweat it

Downsy is kind of annoying I guess but tbh I just tune him out, and I do that for basically all the stadium announcers and mute the half time chat on RobinsTV. I don't really understand why people get so worked up about him, he has zero effect on my enjoyment of the game.

Yeah I get that, especially when we all put so much time, money, and emotional energy into the club. Emotions run high and like with Ashton I'll have a smile on my face if Ipswich blow it this year. I think karma is whatever happens in his professional life though... he's still just a guy at the end of the day and doesn't deserve personal abuse.