Mickey Bells left foot Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 i know that this isn't a major point and didn't cost us anything but, every hull goal kick windass was at least 10-15 yards offside when the ball was kicked, and was active because he challenged for every header and won some of the them. the lino didn't flag once anyone else notice this? was pissing me and my dad right off!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Football Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 The lino did know the offside rule. You and your dad don't. You can't be offside from a goal kick LF Level 4 Referee (ex). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Bells left foot Posted May 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 i swear i've seen them given, is this a new stupid rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Football Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 It's been a law since I've been a ref. And that's a long, long time...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Bells left foot Posted May 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 ah ok thanks for clearing that up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man In Black Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 I can back him up. (Another ex-referee). I remember many arguments with players on a weekend about someone being "offside" from a throw-in and going on to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easton boy Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 It's been a law since I've been a ref. And that's a long, long time...... Are you serious? I know you can't be offside from a throw in but a goal kick - surely not - I've seen them given plenty of times at AG.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Bells left foot Posted May 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Are you serious? I know you can't be offside from a throw in but a goal kick - surely not - I've seen them given plenty of times at AG.... glad i'm not the only one whose seen them given, was beginning to wonder if i had made it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man In Black Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Are you serious? I know you can't be offside from a throw in but a goal kick - surely not - I've seen them given plenty of times at AG.... Are you sure you haven't seen it bounce off two players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Football Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 By goal kick, both us ex-refs assume he means from a goal kick as opposed to a drop kick. You cannot be offside from a restart when the ball has gone out of play (throw in, corner, goal kick, goal). You can be offside when the keeper kicks from his hands (or throws it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 By goal kick, both us ex-refs assume he means from a goal kick as opposed to a drop kick. You cannot be offside from a restart when the ball has gone out of play (throw in, corner, goal kick, goal). You can be offside when the keeper kicks from his hands (or throws it). There's an interesting point! As you have to be in an offside position when the ball is played, at what point is the ball "played" when it's thrown? It's easy to see from a kick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Football Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 When it is thrown!!!??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easton boy Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 By goal kick, both us ex-refs assume he means from a goal kick as opposed to a drop kick. You cannot be offside from a restart when the ball has gone out of play (throw in, corner, goal kick, goal). You can be offside when the keeper kicks from his hands (or throws it). You can't be offside for a corner kick because the ball is in advance of ALL players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Football Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 You can be in advanced position. The quarter arc is one metre. So if the kick is taken from the furthest point it is one metre from the bye line, so techincally you can be in an offside position. But you can't be offisde because it's a restart (as explained earlier). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 This post has slightly cheered me up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easton boy Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 You can be in advanced position. The quarter arc is one metre. So if the kick is taken from the furthest point it is one metre from the bye line, so techincally you can be in an offside position. But you can't be offisde because it's a restart (as explained earlier). I know that this is an old topic, but I needed it bumped to the top to offer my apologies to Lord Football as he is right - you cannot be offside from a restart after the ball has gone out of play. I apologise wholeheartedly for my incredulity, and to substantiate his point i attach the link from the BBC web-site http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/r...ent/4993924.stm It seems its not only my missus who doesn't understand the offside rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 You can be in advanced position. The quarter arc is one metre. So if the kick is taken from the furthest point it is one metre from the bye line, so techincally you can be in an offside position. But you can't be offisde because it's a restart (as explained earlier). I'm no referee but are you sure that the arc stretches one metre from the bye line. That would be an awful big arc. I think maybe you will find that the arc has a one metre outside circumference. I am also no great mathmetician, but this would mean the distance from bye line to furthest pointr of arc would be less than half a metre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red under the bed Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 I'm no referee but are you sure that the arc stretches one metre from the bye line. That would be an awful big arc. I think maybe you will find that the arc has a one metre outside circumference. I am also no great mathmetician, but this would mean the distance from bye line to furthest pointr of arc would be less than half a metre. From FA Site The Corner Arc A quarter circle with a radius of 1m (1yd) from each corner flagpost is drawn inside the field of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 From FA Site The Corner Arc A quarter circle with a radius of 1m (1yd) from each corner flagpost is drawn inside the field of play. Thankyou for that. That would mean 1 metre around, which includes the straight bits of the bye line and touchline. No way is the arc 1 metre from the bye line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 Thankyou for that. That would mean 1 metre around, which includes the straight bits of the bye line and touchline. No way is the arc 1 metre from the bye line. No it wouldn't, the radius is the distance from the centre of a circle to it's edge. The centre being the corner flag and the edge being the curved line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 Thankyou for that. That would mean 1 metre around, which includes the straight bits of the bye line and touchline. No way is the arc 1 metre from the bye line. No it wouldn't, the radius is the distance from the centre of a circle to it's edge. The centre being the corner flag and the edge being the curved line. Which is what Kingpin said (I think). The edge of the circle meets the touchline and byeline 1 metre from the corner flag. This seems wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomerRed Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 I'm not really one for maths, but Lee Johnson seems to manage to take his corners from a foot or so outside the arc at the East End, especially when that corner gets too worn and the ball just rolls. So all those corners are illegal, technically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edson Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 Which is what Kingpin said (I think). The edge of the circle meets the touchline and byeline 1 metre from the corner flag. This seems wrong. It's surprising, but it is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 I know that this is an old topic, but I needed it bumped to the top to offer my apologies to Lord Football as he is right - you cannot be offside from a restart after the ball has gone out of play. I apologise wholeheartedly for my incredulity, and to substantiate his point i attach the link from the BBC web-site http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/r...ent/4993924.stm It seems its not only my missus who doesn't understand the offside rule Trust me, on a windy Sunday morning or Saturday afternoon, you can score many a goal by exploiting this rule. RBFCTillIDie and his Real Bristol team mates can confirm this after their friendly with the Forum team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easton boy Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 Trust me, on a windy Sunday morning or Saturday afternoon, you can score many a goal by exploiting this rule. RBFCTillIDie and his Real Bristol team mates can confirm this after their friendly with the Forum team Yes I thought the same. I can't remember ever seeing City trying to exploit it though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 Yes I thought the same. I can't remember ever seeing City trying to exploit it though.... To be fair, not many keepers can kick the length of Ashton Gate pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Believesham Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 whats the decision then ... going back to the ball going out of play and you cant be offside ... if youre in the opposition half when kick off is taken is that just encroachment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edson Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 whats the decision then ... going back to the ball going out of play and you cant be offside ... if youre in the opposition half when kick off is taken is that just encroachment? It's a separate law. All players must be in their own half of the field at kick off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fodbarmyarmy Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 It's a separate law. All players must be in their own half of the field at kick off. Or is it just behind the ball :noexpression: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edson Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 Or is it just behind the ball :noexpression: It's Law 8 - all players must be in their own half of the field at kick off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.