Martyn Hocking Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 Says on BBC teletext that the Carle transfer is under investigation by regulators for possible irregularities involving agents. Palace are under scrutiny, not us, according to the story, as is an agent whose name I didn't recognise. This appeared in a story about use of unauthorised agents and this is one of several recent deals under scrutiny, so would assume that the agent Carle/Palace used to tie up the deal at their end may not be fully authorised. Well_red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edson Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 The agent is accused of acting on behalf of Carle in his transfer to us and then in his transfer to Crystal Palace. It's against FIFA regulations to act on behalf of the same player in consecutive transfers within a 12 month period, as I understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Hocking Posted August 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 The agent is accused of acting on behalf of Carle in his transfer to us and then in his transfer to Crystal Palace. It's against FIFA regulations to act on behalf of the same player in consecutive transfers within a 12 month period, as I understand it. That makes sense - the agent has a Turkish sounding name so was presumably Carle's agent when he was playing in Turkey before he came to us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHider Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=...mp;#entry993745 Already being discussed here, kind of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 I wonder if he's regretting that move yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOLMANDAN Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 I wonder if he's regretting that move yet... Yep he has to wear a neck collar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man In Black Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 It's against FIFA regulations to act on behalf of the same player in consecutive transfers within a 12 month period, as I understand it. Do you know what the reasoning behind that is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edson Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 Do you know what the reasoning behind that is? The actual wording is: Agent Faisal Kashmiri and Crystal Palace have been charged with breaches of rules concerning the transfer of Nick Carle from Bristol City FC. Under The FA's Football Agents Regulations, agents are prohibited from acting for two different clubs in two consecutive transactions involving the same player, and clubs are not allowed to use the services of the agent in such circumstances. It is alleged that Kashmiri acted in relation to the player's previous move. Faisal Kashmiri has admitted the charge, and requested a personal hearing. Crystal Palace FC has admitted the charge, and has requested a non-personal hearing. I'm guessing it's to stop agents encouraging a player to move on several times per season just to make the agent money, but I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 Do you know what the reasoning behind that is? Because its in a agents interest to move clubs alot, but not for players. I suppose its a rule to deter agents from trying to engineer transfers ALL the time?? I'm just guessing by the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 I wonder if he's regretting that move yet... Or indeed planning his next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man In Black Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 If that's the case, footballers should man up and tell the agent to naff off (Yes, I do know that they barely have the intelligence to think for themselves) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashbrisc11 Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 The agent is accused of acting on behalf of Carle in his transfer to us and then in his transfer to Crystal Palace. It's against FIFA regulations to act on behalf of the same player in consecutive transfers within a 12 month period, as I understand it. does that mean hes coming back then and we keep the money yippee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotusman Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Odd perhaps that our club did not advise Carle of this requirement.I wonder whether B.C.F.C. personnel involved in transfer activity were aware of this? One would hope we are sufficiently well briefed in such matters and should be capable of assisting an individual especially one with just a few months experience in the English game.Although we are not under investigation it is none the less disconcerting and worthy of internal investigation to review procedures and ensure a similar event does not occur. The fact that he was ushered out with such speed and with the express agreement of G.J.would suggest that Carle and in particular his agent were not manipulating the transfer.One could then argue under freedom of choice why should'nt an agent be allowed to represent a player yet again. An interesting & odd situation which does beg the question of how well do players,agents,managers,club secretary's know the rules of their industry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackers Corner Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 did anything ever come of the charges lodged against us by the fa last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshy-shuffle-carl-shutt Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Odd perhaps that our club did not advise Carle of this requirement.I wonder whether B.C.F.C. personnel involved in transfer activity were aware of this? One would hope we are sufficiently well briefed in such matters and should be capable of assisting an individual especially one with just a few months experience in the English game.Although we are not under investigation it is none the less disconcerting and worthy of internal investigation to review procedures and ensure a similar event does not occur. The fact that he was ushered out with such speed and with the express agreement of G.J.would suggest that Carle and in particular his agent were not manipulating the transfer.One could then argue under freedom of choice why should'nt an agent be allowed to represent a player yet again. An interesting & odd situation which does beg the question of how well do players,agents,managers,club secretary's know the rules of their industry? I can now understand why Gary J accepted the bid from Palace. His agent must be questioned here and so to the player. Lets think about this shall we when was the last time any Assuie showed any loyalty to any club. Think about it- If you can name me one or two i would like to know there names. Its not that long ago we saw another Aussie move on to so called bigger club and better things. Above all though it is not BCFC job to advise less than honourable agents their job any more than it is to a player who is associated with the said agent. I hope both parties get very heavy fines. It's very naive to think Colin made his bid without consulting the agent frist. If i was Gary J i would have accepeted too when faced with the fact some greedy aussie shite wants to deal with shady agents and possible engineered this move himself. Gary J is much too canny to get involved with any slanging matches when a double your money deal is on the table. Nick Carle could have refused to move but didnt. If there was even a whisper of this dodgy agent was part of the deal then what would you have done? Sell sell sell Nick Carle=assuie Assuie= No Loyalty All purely sepculation BTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westred1 Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 I can now understand why Gary J accepted the bid from Palace. His agent must be questioned here and so to the player. Lets think about this shall we when was the last time any Assuie showed any loyalty to any club. Think about it- If you can name me one or two i would like to know there names. Nick Carle=assuie Assuie= No Loyalty All purely sepculation BTW Tim Cahill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshy-shuffle-carl-shutt Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Tim Cahill? touche cahill apart then. Laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westred1 Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 touche cahill apart then. Laugh I win! Can't think of any others though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westred1 Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Actually, has Richard Garcia of Hull City done anything ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshy-shuffle-carl-shutt Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Actually, has Richard Garcia of Hull City done anything ? Me thinks that maybe i've not thought this through too much but in my defense Cahill has never been fit enough to be able to move and Garcia will be on his way if a bigger club from the middle east come in for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westred1 Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Me thinks that maybe i've not thought this through too much but in my defense Cahill has never been fit enough to be able to move and Garcia will be on his way if a bigger club from the middle east come in for him. An answer to everything, Walshy shuffle carl shutt does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fRed Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 I smell Pulis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshy-shuffle-carl-shutt Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 An answer to everything, Walshy shuffle carl shutt does. True i just cant help myself - i'm just waiting for any last min transfer news my god what is happening in Manchester. :noexpression: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshy-shuffle-carl-shutt Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 I smell Pulis. Really that must be hell My suggestion move away from the north and the foul stench should subside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westred1 Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 True i just cant help myself - i'm just waiting for any last min transfer news my god what is happening in Manchester. :noexpression: Well Berby should of gone to Man City with Robinho So how many aussies have gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brisbanecity Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 craig moore was at rangers for a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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