SecretSam Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 This month's 442 magazine has an article on players who signed for clubs but never made an appearance. No.6 was ...Mick Harford leaving City to go to Newcastle for £100k in 1982, and then moving to Brum about a day later. Apparently City needed the cash to survive the 12 noon meltdown, this deal was done along with the Ashton Gate 8...and the club is quoted as saying Brum couldn't get the paperwork together quick enough, so City rang some mates and Newcastle offered to help out, by 'buying' Harford on the understanding he's be sold straight away to Brum once they'd done the papers. The source at City claims this saved the club. Now I've always loathed Newcastle and its fans, for their "Big Club" mentality despite winning sweet FA...they're like a more successful Wolves...but if this is correct, I'd have to change my views? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bully Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 This month's 442 magazine has an article on players who signed for clubs but never made an appearance. No.6 was ...Mick Harford leaving City to go to Newcastle for £100k in 1982, and then moving to Brum about a day later. Apparently City needed the cash to survive the 12 noon meltdown, this deal was done along with the Ashton Gate 8...and the club is quoted as saying Brum couldn't get the paperwork together quick enough, so City rang some mates and Newcastle offered to help out, by 'buying' Harford on the understanding he's be sold straight away to Brum once they'd done the papers. The source at City claims this saved the club. Now I've always loathed Newcastle and its fans, for their "Big Club" mentality despite winning sweet FA...they're like a more successful Wolves...but if this is correct, I'd have to change my views? 26 years ago, Newcastle and it's fans weren't so much up their own arses - suggest you continue to loathe the 1990's onward model.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numbeast Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 It's a long time ago but if I remember rightly we signed Harford FROM Newcastle and paid by installment.We were unable to keep up with these payments so he returned there only to be sold on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappers Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 I thought that he was re-possessed rather than sold. A lot happened in a short space of time, and I doubt that the truth will ever be known. If you look at the AG8, they had no choice, if they put the Club under, they would have ended up with nothing. The Board did a great job keeping the Club going, and the few remaining fans at the time contributed as well. Personally, I was just grateful that City survived, and since then, have never wanted us 'investing' large sums of money on players, chasing temporary success (Which is what it would be, in reality). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Lewis Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 I thought that he was re-possessed rather than sold. A lot happened in a short space of time, and I doubt that the truth will ever be known. If you look at the AG8, they had no choice, if they put the Club under, they would have ended up with nothing. The Board did a great job keeping the Club going, and the few remaining fans at the time contributed as well. Personally, I was just grateful that City survived, and since then, have never wanted us 'investing' large sums of money on players, chasing temporary success (Which is what it would be, in reality). He was He would also have kept us up if we could have held on to him. I still wonder how we managed to sign him in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted September 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 26 years ago, Newcastle and it's fans weren't so much up their own arses - suggest you continue to loathe the 1990's onward model.. Excellent glad I can keep hating/laughing at them, I used to work with one and he was a total d1ck when it came to football, could not see beyond NUFC. Pathetic, really. And another one ripped off a mate of mine who was self-employed. So I'm glad I don't have to like them!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Harford played games for us, scored quite a few ( 2 at Lincoln springs to mind) Newcastle used to have sub 10000 gates in the old first as well as the old second! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Dazzler Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Harford played games for us, scored quite a few ( 2 at Lincoln springs to mind) Newcastle used to have sub 10000 gates in the old first as well as the old second! He also took over the captaincy for the 1st game after the Ashton 8 affair against Fulham. The regular captain Terry Boyle fractured his jaw just before that game, so the armband was handed to Mick as the most "Senior" (not necesarily age-wise) outfield player at the ripe old age of about 21. I think he retained the captaincy until he was "re-possessed" a few weeks later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudgeRed Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 He also took over the captaincy for the 1st game after the Ashton 8 affair against Fulham. The regular captain Terry Boyle fractured his jaw just before that game, so the armband was handed to Mick as the most "Senior" (not necesarily age-wise) outfield player at the ripe old age of about 21. I think he retained the captaincy until he was "re-possessed" a few weeks later! I remember in that game a very young Rob Newman scored from a free kick towards the Eastend. In the papers the next day the head lines read 'The New-Mann' !!! refering to him replacing Jimmy Mann who was our free kick specialist at the time & was part of the Ashton Gate 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candygram for mongo Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 I thought that we signed him from B'ham but never acually paid them the money, therefore when Newcastle bought him they took the player but paid the money to B'ham because we never actually owned the player as we failed to pay for him. That's how I remember it anyway. By the way, Harford was one hell of a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Hard man, though, wasn't he? I remember a number of his goals when he left the centre half in a heap (usually through a leading elbow) whilst heading home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 This month's 442 magazine has an article on players who signed for clubs but never made an appearance. No.6 was ...Mick Harford leaving City to go to Newcastle for £100k in 1982, and then moving to Brum about a day later. Apparently City needed the cash to survive the 12 noon meltdown, this deal was done along with the Ashton Gate 8...and the club is quoted as saying Brum couldn't get the paperwork together quick enough, so City rang some mates and Newcastle offered to help out, by 'buying' Harford on the understanding he's be sold straight away to Brum once they'd done the papers. The source at City claims this saved the club. Now I've always loathed Newcastle and its fans, for their "Big Club" mentality despite winning sweet FA...they're like a more successful Wolves...but if this is correct, I'd have to change my views? Remember his shirt? http://www.classicfootballshirts.co.uk/Oth...i1064oalkqbdfu4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenun Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 I thought that he was re-possessed rather than sold. A lot happened in a short space of time, and I doubt that the truth will ever be known. If you look at the AG8, they had no choice, if they put the Club under, they would have ended up with nothing. The Board did a great job keeping the Club going, and the few remaining fans at the time contributed as well. Personally, I was just grateful that City survived, and since then, have never wanted us 'investing' large sums of money on players, chasing temporary success (Which is what it would be, in reality). You can still purchase 1982: The Year Bristol City Nearly Died, commemorating the Ashton Gate 8 through the Social City sub-forum, which contains an interview with Mick Harford, as well as the eight, plus manager Roy Hodgson, reserve team manager Gerry Sharpe, BCFC82 directors Deryn Coller and Bob Boyd, Gary Collier who's freedom of contract move to Coventry provided the catalyst to the crisis and John Southern from the Supporters Club / Friends of Bristol City. Not forgetting Robert Del Naja of Massive Attack, who underwrote the printing costs and provided a fascinating double-page feature about his love affair with Bristol City. It's a cracking insight and a warning from history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappers Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 I remember in that game a very young Rob Newman scored from a free kick towards the Eastend. In the papers the next day the head lines read 'The New-Mann' !!! refering to him replacing Jimmy Mann who was our free kick specialist at the time & was part of the Ashton Gate 8. The Fulham game ended 0-0, the incident you refer to was the goal in a 1-0 win at Walsall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 The Fulham game ended 0-0, the incident you refer to was the goal in a 1-0 win at Walsall. Remember that game, some people (ahem) were involved in a scrap on the pitch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudgeRed Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 The Fulham game ended 0-0, the incident you refer to was the goal in a 1-0 win at Walsall. I stand corrected. Thank you mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS15_RED Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Hard man, though, wasn't he? I remember a number of his goals when he left the centre half in a heap (usually through a leading elbow) whilst heading home. I remember Dave Beasant being interviewed once and talking about playing against him when Hartford was at City and Beasant was at Wimbledon and Beasant said that he'd kneed Hartford in the ribs in the 1st half of the game and at half time he'd been told that Hartford was coughing up blood. He then said that in the 2nd half he went to take a cross and Hartford smashed him knocking him out cold. He said Hartford was the hardest player he'd ever came across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bully Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 I remember Dave Beasant being interviewed once and talking about playing against him when Hartford was at City and Beasant was at Wimbledon and Beasant said that he'd kneed Hartford in the ribs in the 1st half of the game and at half time he'd been told that Hartford was coughing up blood. He then said that in the 2nd half he went to take a cross and Hartford smashed him knocking him out cold. He said Hartford was the hardest player he'd ever came across. He has a reputation from the 'good old days' which he hasn't cultivated himself I believe, of being the hardest man in English football - Vinnie Jones no less, advised his Wimbledon team mates not to give Mick the usual welcome of burning his clothes when he joined them. He also had a little 'firm' when he was at Birmingham that was due to have a pre-arranged 'off' with a rival team. Hope Tristan is being a good boy at Luton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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