If You Still Don't Think There's A Problem....

[The Original OTIB]

look at the stats. We need at least 7 shots on goal to get a win. Fact. Any less, we draw or lose. Only exception, Birmingham - but that was a GOOD performance.

How many shots on target yesterday? 4. Burnley? 8. And WE were at HOME !

It's goals folks. We are relegation fodder without a dramatic change of tactics.

Current Form - 6 Games

Pos Name P W D L F A GD PTS

1 Reading 6 5 1 0 12 4 8 16

2 Crystal Palace 6 4 2 0 11 5 6 14

3 Wolves 6 4 1 1 10 3 7 13

4 Burnley 6 4 1 1 15 10 5 13

5 Cardiff City 6 3 3 0 12 7 5 12

6 QPR 6 3 2 1 7 5 2 11

7 Sheffield Wed 6 3 2 1 7 5 2 11

8 Preston 6 3 1 2 8 7 1 10

9 Birmingham 6 3 1 2 8 8 0 10

10 Nottm Forest 6 2 3 1 5 3 2 9

11 Watford 6 2 2 2 8 8 0 8

12 Blackpool 6 2 2 2 5 5 0 8

13 Barnsley 6 2 1 3 7 8 -1 7

14 Swansea City 6 0 6 0 7 7 0 6

15 Coventry City 6 1 3 2 9 11 -2 6

16 Sheffield Utd 6 1 3 2 8 10 -2 6

17 Norwich City 6 2 0 4 7 9 -2 6

18 Ipswich Town 6 1 2 3 8 10 -2 5

19 Doncaster 6 1 2 3 3 5 -2 5

20 Derby County 6 1 2 3 6 12 -6 5

21 Bristol City 6 0 3 3 3 8 -5 3

22 Southampton 6 0 3 3 3 9 -6 3

23 Charlton 6 0 2 4 4 9 -5 2

24 Plymouth 6 0 2 4 2 7 -5 2

[foghornred]

Last time I looked the bottom 3 got relegated.

[bransonmo]

Unfortunate facts to read and if you looked over our last 10 matches as a GJ block of 10, its not much better.

P10 W1 D4 L5 GF9 GA18 Pts 7. Our first 10 matches earned us 13 points, so we are definately sliding and just 7 points from the relegation zone.

I'me not convinced we are doomed, however we are getting no respect from the other teams, who have strengthened and done their homework on us. I think we need to overhaul our selection/substitution process and give some fringe players a chance.Obviously the current selections are simply not working at this level and its no use waiting until late January to make a move. Circumstances demand some very ruthless decisions from SL and GJ, Both said at the start of the season that they planned to take us one step better this season.

If better is an away fixture at Carlisle next season, fans paying their hard earned cash have every right to show concern and demand answers.

[4eveREDDy]

Unfortunate facts to read and if you looked over our last 10 matches as a GJ block of 10, its not much better.

P10 W1 D4 L5 GF9 GA18 Pts 7. Our first 10 matches earned us 13 points, so we are definately sliding and just 7 points from the relegation zone.

I'me not convinced we are doomed, however we are getting no respect from the other teams, who have strengthened and done their homework on us. I think we need to overhaul our selection/substitution process and give some fringe players a chance.Obviously the current selections are simply not working at this level and its no use waiting until late January to make a move. Circumstances demand some very ruthless decisions from SL and GJ, Both said at the start of the season that they planned to take us one step better this season.

If better is an away fixture at Carlisle next season, fans paying their hard earned cash have every right to show concern and demand answers.

At last some common sense posts Quoting Facts!!! over to you GJ, get this bloody mess sorted, whatever it takes