city nut Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Here is a copy of the report: http://e2edocs.bristol-city.gov.uk/WAM/doc...amp;pageCount=1 The most relevant bit if you want to read is the summary, there is also a recommended resolution for the committee: RECOMMENDATION A. The committee resolves that it is minded to approve, subject to the matters stated, the following development within application 09/02242/P namely the full planning application for the stadium and associated development, car park, access and other works, the outline application for the hotel and food and drink uses (zone 3) and the outline application for the Moorelands housing ( zone 5). This resolution is subject consideration of and the imposition of appropriate conditions and to an obligation or other mechanism which satisfactorily resolves the following matters 1. The receipt of a satisfactory and deliverable solution for providing pedestrian access between Winterstoke Road and the stadium 2. Consideration of the results of consultation on proposals for the pedestrian access proposals B. The application is to be returned to the committee in the light of this resolution and all material considerations within six months. C. The committee do not support residential development on the Southlands site (zone 4) and any planning permission will exclude residential development on the outhlands site within the application plan. So the stadium may get consent but not the housing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bully Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Here is a copy of the report: http://e2edocs.bristol-city.gov.uk/WAM/doc...amp;pageCount=1 The most relevant bit if you want to read is the summary, there is also a recommended resolution for the committee: RECOMMENDATION A. The committee resolves that it is minded to approve, subject to the matters stated, the following development within application 09/02242/P namely the full planning application for the stadium and associated development, car park, access and other works, the outline application for the hotel and food and drink uses (zone 3) and the outline application for the Moorelands housing ( zone 5). This resolution is subject consideration of and the imposition of appropriate conditions and to an obligation or other mechanism which satisfactorily resolves the following matters 1. The receipt of a satisfactory and deliverable solution for providing pedestrian access between Winterstoke Road and the stadium 2. Consideration of the results of consultation on proposals for the pedestrian access proposals B. The application is to be returned to the committee in the light of this resolution and all material considerations within six months. C. The committee do not support residential development on the Southlands site (zone 4) and any planning permission will exclude residential development on the outhlands site within the application plan. So the stadium may get consent but not the housing... Nice one CN - not sure of the detail, but the viability of the stadium , or at least the source of funding may be affected by the decision on the Southlands site. Anyone know the extent of housing there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC&T Board Members Blagdon red Posted October 28, 2009 SC&T Board Members Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Here is a copy of the report: http://e2edocs.bristol-city.gov.uk/WAM/doc...amp;pageCount=1 The most relevant bit if you want to read is the summary, there is also a recommended resolution for the committee: RECOMMENDATION A. The committee resolves that it is minded to approve, subject to the matters stated, the following development within application 09/02242/P namely the full planning application for the stadium and associated development, car park, access and other works, the outline application for the hotel and food and drink uses (zone 3) and the outline application for the Moorelands housing ( zone 5). This resolution is subject consideration of and the imposition of appropriate conditions and to an obligation or other mechanism which satisfactorily resolves the following matters 1. The receipt of a satisfactory and deliverable solution for providing pedestrian access between Winterstoke Road and the stadium 2. Consideration of the results of consultation on proposals for the pedestrian access proposals B. The application is to be returned to the committee in the light of this resolution and all material considerations within six months. C. The committee do not support residential development on the Southlands site (zone 4) and any planning permission will exclude residential development on the outhlands site within the application plan. So the stadium may get consent but not the housing... So the officers are recommending approval of the housing to the north east of the stadium, but not that to the south. Well, I guess when people put in mixed developments plans like this they ask for everything they hope to get and accept they might not get it all. Hopefully the loss of that housing - if the committee goes with the recommendation - won't be too much of a setback, and I presume the developers of that part of the site could always submit a revised application at some future date. The site plan, showing the zones in question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Here is a copy of the report: http://e2edocs.bristol-city.gov.uk/WAM/doc...amp;pageCount=1 The most relevant bit if you want to read is the summary, there is also a recommended resolution for the committee: RECOMMENDATION A. The committee resolves that it is minded to approve, subject to the matters stated, the following development within application 09/02242/P namely the full planning application for the stadium and associated development, car park, access and other works, the outline application for the hotel and food and drink uses (zone 3) and the outline application for the Moorelands housing ( zone 5). This resolution is subject consideration of and the imposition of appropriate conditions and to an obligation or other mechanism which satisfactorily resolves the following matters 1. The receipt of a satisfactory and deliverable solution for providing pedestrian access between Winterstoke Road and the stadium 2. Consideration of the results of consultation on proposals for the pedestrian access proposals B. The application is to be returned to the committee in the light of this resolution and all material considerations within six months. C. The committee do not support residential development on the Southlands site (zone 4) and any planning permission will exclude residential development on the outhlands site within the application plan. So the stadium may get consent but not the housing... it says Zone 5 housing probably will in your cut and pasted paragraph; only zone 4 housing probably will not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanhamreds Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Page 60 says Not allowing Southlands would add a deficit of £5.5m to the project. In relation to the total cost of the stadium this accounts for approximately 4.5% of the funding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Page 60 says Not allowing Southlands would add a deficit of £5.5m to the project. In relation to the total cost of the stadium this accounts for approximately 4.5% of the funding. Fairly small beer in the overall scheme but £5.5m is still a sizeable sum. Hopefully as it's only 4.5% it can be clawed back from somewhere else, cos I would hope that the costs include a contingency of say 10%-15%. But, that will make the rest of the project tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 I'd presume you can do something else with that zone that provides some income, maybe not as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanhamreds Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 I'd presume you can do something else with that zone that provides some income, maybe not as much. Bristol Arena? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tompo Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 I'd presume you can do something else with that zone that provides some income, maybe not as much. It may not be dead in the water. Lets not forget that the planning committee can ignore some (or all) of the recommendations in the officers report. They could be minded to grant permission depite the officers advising against. Unlikely but possible. There may also be the possiblity of an appeal against the refusal of that part of the application or any imposed conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendbcfccider Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 It may not be dead in the water. Lets not forget that the planning committee can ignore some (or all of) the recommendations in the officers report. They could be minded to grant permission depite the officers advising against. Unlikely but possible. There may also be the possiblity of an appeal against the refusal of that part of the application or any imposed conditions. Arena!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc.co.uk Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Club pleased with recommendation document. View the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindjuicer Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Looks good. That flyover is seriously under unused as it is, and not sure who'd want to live next to it. There's a myth that there's a shortage of housing in Bristol. All they need to do is convert several of the office blocks which have been standing empty for a decade or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Well this will be a really big test for the Lib Dems in more ways than one, will they oppose the planning officers? and risk ridicule over their support for the world cup bid. and they are always bleating on about housing, perhaps affordable housing for key workers might be a compromise. Surely interesting times on and off the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff65 Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Basically City are saying that the cost to SL is £30m if they get the Southlands and the food store, if they dont get either then the deficit goes up to £54.5m and screw you Council you're not getting the World Cup. The Council are saying that it is break-even but will be a deficit of £20m if the Foodstore doesnt go ahead and the cost of the Southlands part to keep it greenbelt is £4.5m. The report says that the Councillors could say stuff it and give them the Southlands project as the overall picture is Bristol is better off with the whole project rather than just part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizred Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Wouldn't it be better for the Council to allow building on the Southlands site and not build so many houses at the proposed Yanley site (6,000), or is that too simple? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcbs20 Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 does anyone know the exact amount the club were hoping to make out of the housing the committee has said should be withdraw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroudy Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 So far so good, but only 1 of a few massive hurdles overcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cheese Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 does anyone know the exact amount the club were hoping to make out of the housing the committee has said should be withdraw £5.5m wasn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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