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Council Officers Recommends Approval For New Stadium


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Here is a copy of the report: http://e2edocs.bristol-city.gov.uk/WAM/doc...amp;pageCount=1

The most relevant bit if you want to read is the summary, there is also a recommended resolution for the committee:

RECOMMENDATION

A. The committee resolves that it is minded to approve, subject to the matters stated, the following development within application 09/02242/P namely the full planning application for the stadium and associated development, car park, access and other works, the outline application for the hotel and food and drink uses (zone 3) and the outline application for the Moorelands housing ( zone 5). This resolution is subject consideration of and the imposition of appropriate conditions and to an obligation or other mechanism which satisfactorily resolves the following matters

1. The receipt of a satisfactory and deliverable solution for providing pedestrian access between Winterstoke Road and the stadium

2. Consideration of the results of consultation on proposals for the pedestrian access proposals

B. The application is to be returned to the committee in the light of this resolution and all material considerations within six months.

C. The committee do not support residential development on the Southlands site (zone 4) and any planning permission will exclude residential development on the outhlands site within the application plan.

So the stadium may get consent but not the housing...

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Here is a copy of the report: http://e2edocs.bristol-city.gov.uk/WAM/doc...amp;pageCount=1

The most relevant bit if you want to read is the summary, there is also a recommended resolution for the committee:

RECOMMENDATION

A. The committee resolves that it is minded to approve, subject to the matters stated, the following development within application 09/02242/P namely the full planning application for the stadium and associated development, car park, access and other works, the outline application for the hotel and food and drink uses (zone 3) and the outline application for the Moorelands housing ( zone 5). This resolution is subject consideration of and the imposition of appropriate conditions and to an obligation or other mechanism which satisfactorily resolves the following matters

1. The receipt of a satisfactory and deliverable solution for providing pedestrian access between Winterstoke Road and the stadium

2. Consideration of the results of consultation on proposals for the pedestrian access proposals

B. The application is to be returned to the committee in the light of this resolution and all material considerations within six months.

C. The committee do not support residential development on the Southlands site (zone 4) and any planning permission will exclude residential development on the outhlands site within the application plan.

So the stadium may get consent but not the housing...

Nice one CN - not sure of the detail, but the viability of the stadium , or at least the source of funding may be affected by the decision on the Southlands site.

Anyone know the extent of housing there?

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Here is a copy of the report: http://e2edocs.bristol-city.gov.uk/WAM/doc...amp;pageCount=1

The most relevant bit if you want to read is the summary, there is also a recommended resolution for the committee:

RECOMMENDATION

A. The committee resolves that it is minded to approve, subject to the matters stated, the following development within application 09/02242/P namely the full planning application for the stadium and associated development, car park, access and other works, the outline application for the hotel and food and drink uses (zone 3) and the outline application for the Moorelands housing ( zone 5). This resolution is subject consideration of and the imposition of appropriate conditions and to an obligation or other mechanism which satisfactorily resolves the following matters

1. The receipt of a satisfactory and deliverable solution for providing pedestrian access between Winterstoke Road and the stadium

2. Consideration of the results of consultation on proposals for the pedestrian access proposals

B. The application is to be returned to the committee in the light of this resolution and all material considerations within six months.

C. The committee do not support residential development on the Southlands site (zone 4) and any planning permission will exclude residential development on the outhlands site within the application plan.

So the stadium may get consent but not the housing...

So the officers are recommending approval of the housing to the north east of the stadium, but not that to the south. Well, I guess when people put in mixed developments plans like this they ask for everything they hope to get and accept they might not get it all. Hopefully the loss of that housing - if the committee goes with the recommendation - won't be too much of a setback, and I presume the developers of that part of the site could always submit a revised application at some future date.

The site plan, showing the zones in question

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Here is a copy of the report: http://e2edocs.bristol-city.gov.uk/WAM/doc...amp;pageCount=1

The most relevant bit if you want to read is the summary, there is also a recommended resolution for the committee:

RECOMMENDATION

A. The committee resolves that it is minded to approve, subject to the matters stated, the following development within application 09/02242/P namely the full planning application for the stadium and associated development, car park, access and other works, the outline application for the hotel and food and drink uses (zone 3) and the outline application for the Moorelands housing ( zone 5). This resolution is subject consideration of and the imposition of appropriate conditions and to an obligation or other mechanism which satisfactorily resolves the following matters

1. The receipt of a satisfactory and deliverable solution for providing pedestrian access between Winterstoke Road and the stadium

2. Consideration of the results of consultation on proposals for the pedestrian access proposals

B. The application is to be returned to the committee in the light of this resolution and all material considerations within six months.

C. The committee do not support residential development on the Southlands site (zone 4) and any planning permission will exclude residential development on the outhlands site within the application plan.

So the stadium may get consent but not the housing...

it says Zone 5 housing probably will in your cut and pasted paragraph; only zone 4 housing probably will not.

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Page 60 says

Not allowing Southlands would add a deficit of £5.5m to the project. In relation to the total cost

of the stadium this accounts for approximately 4.5% of the funding.

Fairly small beer in the overall scheme but £5.5m is still a sizeable sum. Hopefully as it's only 4.5% it can be clawed back from somewhere else, cos I would hope that the costs include a contingency of say 10%-15%. But, that will make the rest of the project tight.

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I'd presume you can do something else with that zone that provides some income, maybe not as much.

It may not be dead in the water.

Lets not forget that the planning committee can ignore some (or all) of the recommendations in the officers report.

They could be minded to grant permission depite the officers advising against. Unlikely but possible.

There may also be the possiblity of an appeal against the refusal of that part of the application or any imposed conditions.

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It may not be dead in the water.

Lets not forget that the planning committee can ignore some (or all of) the recommendations in the officers report.

They could be minded to grant permission depite the officers advising against. Unlikely but possible.

There may also be the possiblity of an appeal against the refusal of that part of the application or any imposed conditions.

Arena!! :banana:

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Well this will be a really big test for the Lib Dems in more ways than one, will they oppose the planning officers? and risk ridicule over their support for the world cup bid.

and they are always bleating on about housing, perhaps affordable housing for key workers might be a compromise.

Surely interesting times on and off the pitch.

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Basically City are saying that the cost to SL is £30m if they get the Southlands and the food store, if they dont get either then the deficit goes up to £54.5m and screw you Council you're not getting the World Cup. The Council are saying that it is break-even but will be a deficit of £20m if the Foodstore doesnt go ahead and the cost of the Southlands part to keep it greenbelt is £4.5m. The report says that the Councillors could say stuff it and give them the Southlands project as the overall picture is Bristol is better off with the whole project rather than just part of it.

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