View from the Dolman Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Calling us 'Bristol' - thought he was a red? http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/lifestyle/G...il/article.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windmillhillred Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Calling us 'Bristol' - thought he was a red? http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/lifestyle/G...il/article.html Erm, also isn't it a bit rich to be criticising the 'Bristol establishment?!' Last time I checked, they didn't let anyone write a weekly column for the Post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Someone needs to put this george ferguson fella firmly in his place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcbs20 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 i dont know why but i picture mr ferguson being a victor meldrew type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Rocker Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Someone needs to put this george ferguson fella firmly in his place! Personally I thought Colin Sextone scored a bit of an own goal calling him a 'pain in the backside'. Ferguson has put forward what he sees as alternative planning solutions and it's up to CS to present a reasoned argument against his proposals. Childish name-calling (as opposed to sensible debate) doesn't help our case, but rather plays into Ferguson's hands, giving him an opportunity to state his case again and to claim the moral high ground. Which he has just done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Personally I thought Colin Sextone scored a bit of an own goal calling him a 'pain in the backside'. Ferguson has put forward what he sees as alternative planning solutions and it's up to CS to present a reasoned argument against his proposals. Childish name-calling (as opposed to sensible debate) doesn't help our case, but rather plays into Ferguson's hands, giving him an opportunity to state his case again and to claim the moral high ground. Which he has just done. I disagree. Its nothing to do with George Ferguson - he has a cheek! Why does he think he has a say?? has he got 20 million quid?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCAGFC Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 I don't think anyone can put our case better than what Graham from Brislington has, I bet he won;t get a reply. GF is no backer of the new stadium plan, he just wants to make more money to line his upper class pockets. BCAGFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Rocker Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 I disagree. Its nothing to do with George Ferguson - he has a cheek! Why does he think he has a say?? has he got 20 million quid?? Agree with that but by slagging him rather than debating with him, we've just given him a stage to air his views once more and also to come across as some kind of heroic champion of the down-trodden citizens. So instead of "you're a pain in the arse", what Colin should have said was "thanks for your input George, but you are wrong because...." etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Agree with that but by slagging him rather than debating with him, we've just given him a stage to air his views once more and also to come across as some kind of heroic champion of the down-trodden citizens. So instead of "you're a pain in the arse", what Colin should have said was "thanks for your input George, but you are wrong because...." etc. Tend to agree. While I don't agree with what GF has come out and said.. he's only responding to a comment that CS perhaps should have kept to oneself. GF might irk many people, but he also has a lot of supporters around here. The likes of who could make our life a pain when it comes to getting the Sainsbury's app through the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windmillhillred Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Tend to agree. While I don't agree with what GF has come out and said.. he's only responding to a comment that CS perhaps should have kept to oneself. GF might irk many people, but he also has a lot of supporters around here. The likes of who could make our life a pain when it comes to getting the Sainsbury's app through the door. which he knows. He is a very smart business-man first and fore-most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC&T Board Members Blagdon red Posted November 30, 2009 SC&T Board Members Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Interesting venue that the club has chosen for a meeting with locals tomorrow night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 is'nt George Ferguson is a COCKney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Ferguson doesn't actually say anything of substance with the soapbox the EP have seen fit to give him. He just whines about a load of planning decisions he didn't make money from and purely co-incidentally I am sure does not agree with. Boo-*******-hoo. His position is that because he thinks that it is more appropriate to build something else, the club should pay an extra £15m or so towards building that. My position is he should put up the £15m or shut his pie hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Perfect example of red trousered **** being wrong, you see all sorts of people sitting in Temple Quay when ever weather permits, and will see even more when the 2nd phase begins to open next year. Stick to reading Marx and eating tofu you ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economou Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Calling us 'Bristol' - thought he was a red? http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/lifestyle/G...il/article.html He's referrng to Bristol as in the City itself, not Bristol City, at least that's how I read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economou Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Ferguson doesn't actually say anything of substance with the soapbox the EP have seen fit to give him. He just whines about a load of planning decisions he didn't make money from and purely co-incidentally I am sure does not agree with. Boo-*******-hoo. His position is that because he thinks that it is more appropriate to build something else, the club should pay an extra £15m or so towards building that. My position is he should put up the £15m or shut his pie hole. I think he talks a lot of sense regarding the poor planning decisions that have disfigured Bristol since WW2. Don't think he would have made any money out of the redevelopement of Broadmead in the 50's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 I think he talks a lot of sense regarding the poor planning decisions that have disfigured Bristol since WW2. Don't think he would have made any money out of the redevelopement of Broadmead in the 50's. I don't, I think he's talking cock and all of those developments have improved the city, he just doesn't like them because they aren't his pie in the sky schemes that are financially unviable and have nobody willing to fund them. The Broadmead work he is talking about is Cabot's that was completed last year not anything from the 50s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economou Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 I don't, I think he's talking cock and all of those developments have improved the city, he just doesn't like them because they aren't his pie in the sky schemes that are financially unviable and have nobody willing to fund them. The Broadmead work he is talking about is Cabot's that was completed last year not anything from the 50s. Well as he's an architect I'm assuming he's talking from an architectural point of view and I agree with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Well as he's an architect I'm assuming he's talking from an architectural point of view and I agree with him. His argument about Ashton Gate, you know the big metal and concrete football ground next to the tower block, has nowt to do with architecture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcbs20 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 didn't tomf say he would try and get ferguson to come on here and explain his intentions are we any closer to finding out if he will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economou Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 His argument about Ashton Gate, you know the big metal and concrete football ground next to the tower block, has nowt to do with architecture. I was referring to his opinion of developements around the harbourside, Temple Quay etc. Possibly another topic, or a letter from RL Smith in the Evening Post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 George Ferguson wasn't asked to provide alternative plans for Ashton Gate by the owners. I don't think the plans he's drawn up have been costed and he's not come up with a way of financing the scheme (that I know of), this would have to be built by someone else, take considerably longer before getting a return (possibly holding up the stadium build) and most probably not offer the same return as the straight forward sale of Ashton Gate. So all in all it's pie in the sky and that's why CS said he's a pain in the backside. He likes giving his opinion and making plans for things which have nothing to do with him, in short he's a busybody. If he's so keen on affordable housing for the area he could consider converting the Tobacco factory and his apartment. This would kill two birds with one stone, create housing for the less well off in the area and remove some of the competition from the more traditional drinking establishments that have suffered since the opening of his bar. It's nice to see City taking the initiative and the debate into the locals patch prior to releasing any plans, or reacting to an evening post exclusive and the criticism that always follows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 didn't tomf say he would try and get ferguson to come on here and explain his intentions are we any closer to finding out if he will I haven't actually seen him to ask.. even though he lives on the same floor as our office he's never in. I'll see if he's on his email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcbs20 Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 I haven't actually seen him to ask.. even though he lives on the same floor as our office he's never in. I'll see if he's on his email. cheers i think it will be interesting to hear what he has to say when he gets asked proper questions about his intentions and not from some half baked ep reporter or his own private blog where he can write any old rubbish and not get taken to task over his views Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Rocker Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 George Ferguson wasn't asked to provide alternative plans for Ashton Gate by the owners. I don't think the plans he's drawn up have been costed and he's not come up with a way of financing the scheme (that I know of), this would have to be built by someone else, take considerably longer before getting a return (possibly holding up the stadium build) and most probably not offer the same return as the straight forward sale of Ashton Gate. So all in all it's pie in the sky and that's why CS said he's a pain in the backside. I know and agree with what you say. Point is that despite the "minded to approve" decision, planning permission for the stadium is not yet in the bag, never mind the Sainsburys application. So the club's job at the moment is to continue with the PR initiative which SL & CS have run so well to date, to court public opinion and definitely NOT to piss off those who aren't onboard with our plans. Colin Sextone was just voicing what a lot of us think about George Ferguson's interference but unfortunately he said it out loud. He might have chosen his words more carefully rather than play into the hands of the naysayers by appearing to slag them off. Christmas List: Colin: 'How to Win Friends and Influence People' by Dale Carnegie. George: 'Mind your own Business' by Hank Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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