greenun Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirscrumpton Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Am i right in thinking that the new site is not in Liam Foxs constituency but the road is? If so, it's clearly another case of another Tory acting outside his remit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrickstash Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 I think we all know what to do. If you live in Woodspring vote for whatever party has the best chance of getting this jock idiot out. And if you live anywhere else, think seriously about whether you want to vote Tory at all - seeing as he's said his lot will call in the planning application if they win. If he wants to push his chances up of getting elected then he has to learn there are consequences to pissing the rest of us off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHider Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 *yawn* Usual predictable arguments against the stadium. So boring now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartolona Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 The letter goes on to say that the stadium plan "flies in the face of good planning" and "would make a mockery of the Prime Minister's well-publicised promises to protect the green belt". The same Prime Minister who was on the local news last night saying how good it was that Bristol and the new Ashton Vale Stadium had been choosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 I think we all know what to do. If you live in Woodspring vote for whatever party has the best chance of getting this jock idiot out. And if you live anywhere else, think seriously about whether you want to vote Tory at all - seeing as he's said his lot will call in the planning application if they win. If he wants to push his chances up of getting elected then he has to learn there are consequences to pissing the rest of us off. Unfortunately, Fox has a very safe seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarneyCity Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Being a townie I was always in favour of the ban on foxhunting, however, the idea of a packs of hounds chasing a fox across the countryside suddenly has great appeal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsince82 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 The same Prime Minister who was on the local news last night saying how good it was that Bristol and the new Ashton Vale Stadium had been choosen. Fox as our PM? god help us!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark43 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 The same Prime Minister who was on the local news last night saying how good it was that Bristol and the new Ashton Vale Stadium had been choosen. Yeah it was good to hear Gordon Brown speaking positively about our stadium and the world cup in general. Here is a link if anyone wants a quick listen: http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/bristol/hi/peo...000/8416973.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City1970 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Is Dr Fox not partly responsible for expanding Portishead three fold and diluting the green belt land that once surrounded Sheepway. Is Dr Fox in favour of the proposed new town which will be between the A38 and his beloved Long Ashton. I assume all this is on green belt land. Is Dr Fox involved with the expences fiasco. I think so, along with most MPs his honesty and integrity is questionable. I expect at the end of the day Dr Fox will jump on the bandwagan and welcome all the tourists to North Somerset in 2018. Oh, was David Lloyd centre and the park and ride once on green belt land and was Dr Fox not part of the government that allowed it to be built. Dr Fox needs a reality check, Bristol is moving forward and to try and alienate North Somerset from Bristol is ludicrous. £150M for the economy and he don`t want it. He wants his friends in Long Ashton to have views of a new town from their windows. Lastly, how many people in Long Ashton go to Ashton Gate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 He's just a useless Tory C""" ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunley Legend Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 The more enlightened locals down here in North Somerset are starting to realise that "hey, this World Cup thing might actually bring a few quid into our area" and looking at my local rag tonight they were talking about how Councillor Cook almost "ruined" a bid that will bring money into the Clevedon (they seem to think the Hand Stadium will be involved) and particularly Weston Super Mare areas. I think that this 45m road will p1$$ through North Somerset Planning Committee in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 If Dr Fox is still around in 2018, I assume he would't take up any freebie invitations for WC games at the stadium, what with him being so opposed to it and everything ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark43 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Is Dr Fox not some shit DJ from Capital radio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedUn Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 The more enlightened locals down here in North Somerset are starting to realise that "hey, this World Cup thing might actually bring a few quid into our area" and looking at my local rag tonight they were talking about how Councillor Cook almost "ruined" a bid that will bring money into the Clevedon (they seem to think the Hand Stadium will be involved) and particularly Weston Super Mare areas. Not just the World Cup Greebo but the whole Stadium project is bound to provide enormous benefit to resorts like WSM, Burnham, Clevedon and Portishead as folk from all over look for somewhere to "make a weekend of it" once attracted by a big match or concert. I think that this 45m road will p1$$ through North Somerset Planning Committee in January. Don't leave it to chance! ... make sure you and everyone you know locally contact Liam Fox, MP and all the North Somerset councillors via WRITE TO THEM ... let them know it isn't just a parochial football matter but the regional economy that is at stake here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 I think that this 45m road will p1$$ through North Somerset Planning Committee in January. Sadly, I don't. Sadly Mr Fox does have one of the safest seats in the land. Having said that if the two other main parties did a bit of talking and only put one candidate up they could remove him with a bit of effort.. Nan Kirsten ran him very close 10 years or so ago with a concentrated campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 He's just saying what his core support want to hear, he won't do naff all if they get in power.... which they won't because the next government will be a Lab/Lib coalition. Anyway, notice in the original article that he's quite careful about not saying "I don't want this Stadium in my area" and that he just says he wants it reconsidered without taking account of the South West RSS so as not to propogate further green belt development in the area. This in itself is a common misinterpretation of the RSS and something that could have come straight out of a Daily mail editorial. He knows the stadium is going to happen, he's just trying to position himself against it without actually saying 'Not in My Back Yard' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartolona Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 he's just trying to position himself against it without actually saying 'Not in My Back Yard' You were saying which would have a hugely adverse effect on our local quality of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenun Posted December 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 I emailed him yesterday because of the stance he has taken over this and this was his response, recieved this morning: Thank you for your email about Bristol City's planning application. I fully understand the enthusiasm for a new stadium which would have benefits to the wider community, as well as the potential giving Bristol a venue for the World Cup. The problem relates to the specific site that has been chosen and the fact that it is technically in the Green Belt. As you are no doubt aware, we are having a major battle to stop huge developments being built in the Green Belt around Dundry, Long Ashton and Failand which would have a hugely adverse effect on our local quality of life. We cannot allow any exceptions to the Green belt planning rules to provide a precedent which might make it easier for housing developers. I entirely appreciate your frustration and that of many others but this issue appears to be caught in the cross fire. If there is a general election and a change of housing policy which will remove the threat to our Green Belt from endless housing estates, then it may well be possible to look at the Bristol City application differently. Yours sincerely Dr Liam Fox MP Shadow Defence Secretary Seems to me that by saying this he is "carrot dangling", insomuch that if the Gov changes, and as a result the housing policy changes towards green-belt development, then he might be able to support the new stadium. Hmmm! Now who would trust the words of a politician eh?!! Thanks for doing that, FR. In my opinion North Somerset Council will yield, either through choice, or following a City appeal. Its then up to the Secretary of State and if it's the current government's man he would be unlikely to reject a stadium that is integral to the World Cup bid that his party supports. However, if the decision is made after the next General Election, which some experts are saying could be held in March, then a Tory administration would concern me, despite their assurances of being the party that supports business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindjuicer Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 What Fox is saying is plausible. The Tories are planning a much-needed shake up of planning & quangos. It might be bluff though unless it was stated at the pre-planning meeting. Labour by comparison have been taking donations from building companies and pushing through 'bulldozer' laws which remove the public's right to lodge objections. I don't know what the current state of the law is, nor why Fox is writing to the Secretary of State. It would be nice to have the truth on my side when I approach Fox on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Liam Fox is the most disingenuous politician I've ever come across (Blair aside). Can't stand the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Humble Realist Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 *yawn* Usual predictable arguments against the stadium. So boring now. He's just a useless Tory C""" ! you may mock but bottom line is i think he actually has a point. It could set a precedent and whats the point of having a greenbelt if you are just going to build on it. HOWEVER i suspect that he actually doesnt really have that bigger problem with the stadium, its just he is setting himself and his party up to have a go at Brown if they approve it after browns numerous "protect the greenbelt" stances. It is at the moment a political issue and as his reply to a letter from someone suggests "if housing policy changes at next election" he said he'l review his stance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrickstash Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Can I please point out that Liam Fox has just revealed he's had to pay back almost £8,000 after using his exes to do his house up. You or I did that, we'd be fired. And the police would be called. And we'd probably end up in Horfield. (the prison, not the awful place that the Gas make their few fans go.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garlicbread Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Fox as our PM? god help us!!!!! Relax, more chance of you becomming PM. Too much baggage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityhead Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 The politicising of this access road is quite a clever negotiating technigue, whereby the local authority can use it as a ransome strip. My understanding is that they feel there is insufficient in it for them. Where's the 'quid pro qou'. I'm sure if SL or DS could come up with a sweetener then everybody would get something and be happy. My suggestion would be for SL to pay for resurfacing of Barrow Street and Long Ashton by-pass which the local authority have not done for many a year and is now a danger to cars and motorcyclists. The roads are better in Bagdad! They obviously don't want johnny foreigner coming to North Somerset and comparing it to a slum. Either that or Fox could use the money he allegedly fraudulantly claimed from us to cover his dodgy expenses. I'll probably go to jail for that. But I wont mind taking one for the team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 you may mock but bottom line is i think he actually has a point. It could set a precedent and whats the point of having a greenbelt if you are just going to build on it. That is a bullshit excuse, planning law already protects the greenbelt adequately, a development like this one has to be justified on special grounds that are extremely stringently tested and we pass. He is supporting the NIMBY scumbags in Long Ashton who are prepared to lie through their teeth to protect their right to drive their 4x4s through a bit less traffic once every two weeks. There is no way that building a stadium here on this brownfield ex tip has any bearing on how hard or easy it is to build houses on greenbelt in the future. Don't fall for it. There is nowhere else to build the stadium, it is this location or not at all. Increase the pressure on this lying Tory scummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Increase the pressure on this lying Tory scummer. Lock and load my fellow Redzzzz - time to hunt the Tory Fox. Tally Ho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Rocker Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 They obviously don't want johnny foreigner coming to North Somerset Now we're getting to the truth. Goddam rednecks Lock and load my fellow Redzzzz - time to hunt the Tory Fox. Tally Ho. Lovely. Let us know where & when... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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