Barneyredballs Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Anyone got a definitive list? If you have great, if not this is what I believe: Basso Trundle Collis B.Wilson Williams Loan deals Sno Saborio Agyemang Velicklia I expect they have had contract extensions, but I'm not sure about Carey/Johnson/Sproule. Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Enormous Turnip Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 I expect they have had contract extensions, but I'm not sure about Carey/Johnson/Sproule. Anyone? Sproule signed an extension last summer alongside Skuse, I'll guess it was more than 1 year. Not a clue about the others, there are probably lots of extensions done behind the scenes that we don't hear about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internetjef Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Anyone got a definitive list? If you have great, if not this is what I believe: Basso Trundle Collis B.Wilson Williams Loan deals Sno Saborio Agyemang Velicklia I expect they have had contract extensions, but I'm not sure about Carey/Johnson/Sproule. Anyone? Based on the impact the above mentioned players have on the first team, looks like a perfect opportunity to get rid of most or all if possible, slice the wage budget and open the door for the younger lads here. Bit of a spring clean so to speak (in summer ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Is Fontaine out of contract? I think he might be. We shouldn't lose him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pack’s Chin Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Didn't Velicka go back to Rangers after his injury, His player profile is still on the official site but i could swear i read that his loan was ended after his debut injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud55 Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Didn't Velicka go back to Rangers after his injury, His player profile is still on the official site but i could swear i read that his loan was ended after his debut injury? He did go back but we are still paying his wages as per the loan agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pack’s Chin Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 He did go back but we are still paying his wages as per the loan agreement. Stupid really seeing as he played hardly any time in a city shirt.. But.. If it says so on the Loan Agreement!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 I'd guess £3m - £4m of wages there, unless somebody knows better. That's a tidy sum to have available, but it highlights that it is very disappointing that with our wage bill we are struggling. It would be nice to keep some of them but I can see them all going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCForeverC Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Is Fontaine out of contract? I think he might be. We shouldn't lose him In his interview in the programme, he said he still had two and a half years, I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyntaxtheRed Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Apart from Sno (maybe Williams) I'd be happy to see all of those off the wage bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Brian Wilson got an extension last summer, not sure how long but would guess 2 years. LJ got an extension the year before and I expect is out of contract summer 2011. Stupid really seeing as he played hardly any time in a city shirt.. But.. If it says so on the Loan Agreement!! He got injured playing for us, just bad luck really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Brian Wilson got an extension last summer, not sure how long but would guess 2 years. LJ got an extension the year before and I expect is out of contract summer 2011. He got injured playing for us, just bad luck really. Bad luck that it happened but not bad luck that we didn't have some kind of cover in the loan agreement. You just need a basic back-up clause like "If through injury the player is unfit to start more than 6 games than the wages contribution for the period of the loan will be reduced by 50%". I do contracts and part of it is thinking about how it could wrong and protecting yourself if it does; 95% of the time these are just unread unused clauses. I would assume that the standard loan agreement comes from the loaning club (Rangers) and that we have our own standard agreement when we loan out . It is then somebody's job (Sexstone?) to go through the two ticking off the clauses and if they're not doing this then why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Bad luck that it happened but not bad luck that we didn't have some kind of cover in the loan agreement. You just need a basic back-up clause like "If through injury the player is unfit to start more than 6 games than the wages contribution for the period of the loan will be reduced by 50%". I do contracts and part of it is thinking about how it could wrong and protecting yourself if it does; 95% of the time these are just unread unused clauses. I would assume that the standard loan agreement comes from the loaning club (Rangers) and that we have our own standard agreement when we loan out . It is then somebody's job (Sexstone?) to go through the two ticking off the clauses and if they're not doing this then why not? You're assuming that such a clause would be acceptable to the club loaning him to us - why should it be? Especially if common practise is otherwise. They'll just say "no thanks, we can find somewhere else for him without that unnecessary risk". I think for a season long loan it's a risk you're expected to take, if you want protection against it there's insurance but clubs avoid that because it's expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 You're assuming that such a clause would be acceptable to the club loaning him to us - why should it be? Especially if common practise is otherwise. They'll just say "no thanks, we can find somewhere else for him without that unnecessary risk". I think for a season long loan it's a risk you're expected to take, if you want protection against it there's insurance but clubs avoid that because it's expensive. I am assuming that. You can insert these clauses and if they are unhappy offer to pay slightly more. As it is an outside risk then it is usually accepted. Insurance against injuries, other than for career-ending injuries, is very expensive because the insurers price according to the risk and the risk is very high. One insurer I worked at did concert underwriting and the one that we priced so high that it was never taken up was Guns and Roses. They would fail to turn up for 1 in 3 or 4 of their concerts so the premium we quoted was a third of their turnover. This was a fair price but looked hugely expensive for them so they went without insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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