myol'man Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 I've asked this question before ( most recently after the Cardiff thrashing) but who is responsible for coaching our back line? Is it Millen, or does GJ oversee all aspects of training? Whoever it is should be ashamed after watching that shambles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Id be suprised if its not Millen coaching the defence with GJ using his football superbrain to come up with a new formation, tactics and playing style for them each week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperRed Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 I've asked this question before ( most recently after the Cardiff thrashing) but who is responsible for coaching our back line? Is it Millen, or does GJ oversee all aspects of training? Whoever it is should be ashamed after watching that shambles It's to easy to blame Millen . In our first season after prmotion and last year our defence was pretty solid, the coaching hasn't changed. The problems are we don't have a good championship left back, Carey is looking past it, Fontaine's been poor most of the season, Nyatanga looks like a headless chicken (Clubs like Derby don't sale good players for no reason) and the defence don't seem to have any confidence in Gerken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonwheeler Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Rumour has it the ringmaster at Billy Smarts - CIRCUS!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lita For Congo Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Barry and Paul Chuckle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Who coaches our midfield? Left the defence with too much work to do. In fact who does the coaching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 the defence don't seem to have any confidence in Gerken. I'm fed up with reading the defence have no confidence in Gerken. Today's abysmal display by each of the 4 defenders had absolutely nothing to do with Gerken or their so-called confidence in him. The fact is the defence allowed various Doncaster players to waltz through them at will, with no challenges to speak of, and left the goalkeeper dreadfully exposed time and time again. When he shouted at them they turned their backs and ran upfield, apparently completely ignoring him, while several of them are quick to loudly chastise him when the opportunity arises. All of our defenders were truly dreadful as individuals and collectively, and if any of them are trying to pass the buck onto a goalkeeper they gave no protection to at all then they should doubly hang their heads in shame. Gerken probably has zero confidence in them, and understandably so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich i e Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 I've asked this question before ( most recently after the Cardiff thrashing) but who is responsible for coaching our back line? Is it Millen, or does GJ oversee all aspects of training? Whoever it is should be ashamed after watching that shambles 2 in midfield, 2 wingers, is too open - it exposes our defence who are at best inconsistent. GJ obviously doesn't get it yet.Unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinker Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 2 in midfield, 2 wingers, is too open - it exposes our defence who are at best inconsistent. GJ obviously doesn't get it yet.Unreal. Perhaps he can't see over the blades of grass.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 2 in midfield, 2 wingers, is too open - it exposes our defence who are at best inconsistent. GJ obviously doesn't get it yet.Unreal. But that is what everyone was asking for................ Mind you if both wingers tracked back it would be helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebrenn Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 got to be a member of the johnson family.the mum perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich i e Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 But that is what everyone was asking for................ Mind you if both wingers tracked back it would be helpful. I said exactly that at the Gate when the fourth went in v Cardiff, clearly our manager has a short memory ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 I said exactly that at the Gate when the fourth went in v Cardiff, clearly our manager has a short memory ! There is a common denominator, but I would get crucified for pointing it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted March 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Let me remind you, who was assistant manager/defence coach alongside Tinman at the time of the 7-1 hammering at Swansea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tales From The Front Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 But that is what everyone was asking for................ Mind you if both wingers tracked back it would be helpful. There is nothing wrong with that foramtion as long as you have at least one of the central midfielders who will sit and marshall in front of the back four and break up play. The centre of our midfield was non-existant today and just mangnifed a totally inept back four defensive display. To say the wingers must tuck in and track back is fine but it might be nice if he also mentioned it to a family member over lunch tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 I've asked this question before ( most recently after the Cardiff thrashing) but who is responsible for coaching our back line? Is it Millen, or does GJ oversee all aspects of training? Whoever it is should be ashamed after watching that shambles 70 odd years ago I would have said that Laurel and Hardy coach our defence. ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john shaws hair Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 apparently its peter carol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChubStixx Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 apparently its peter carol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsrus Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 The defence has been cack all season. We were caught lacking after being 2-0 up against PNE on the first game of the season and nothing I have seen since shows any sense we have learnt any lessons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrytheb Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 I'm fed up with reading the defence have no confidence in Gerken. Agreed. As a central defender at a semi decent level, if I have no confidence in my keeper it doesn't make me play worse or take more chances, it makes me try that little bit harder and compete for balls that maybe I would have left for the keeper in other circumstances. Whether the defence has confidence in a keeper or not is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindjuicer Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 But that is what everyone was asking for................ A manager who listens to a bunch of keyboard jockeys for advice doesn't deserve to keep his job. Shoulda listened to me though. But would playing Hartley in a 4-3-3 have made any difference? Didn't see the game. Haven't seen any reports of it. Gotta be looking for a new manager though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 2 in midfield, 2 wingers, is too open - it exposes our defence who are at best inconsistent. GJ obviously doesn't get it yet.Unreal. But what you say is exactly what he used to say and he was roundly abused on here for it! He is now totally confused as to what to do tactically and should have backed his own judgment. Once a manager starts doing what the fans tell him so as to his days are numbered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 But what you say is exactly what he used to say and he was roundly abused on here for it! He is now totally confused as to what to do tactically and should have backed his own judgment. Once a manager starts doing what the fans tell him so as to his days are numbered. I dont believe that has occurred, the listened to the fans bit; hes still here aint he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Ben Turpin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 I dont believe that has occurred, the listened to the fans bit; hes still here aint he Tee hee no doubt. While I think it's time for change I wonder whether those who insisted 4-4-2 was the answer to our prayers and got what they wanted (so yes he did listen to the fans) will now say they were wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyou Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 It's obvious we don't have a decent defensive coach, or we have players that are unable to grasp basic instructions or think they are above the need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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