_Bristol-City_ Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Don't you wish we had some youngsters. <img src='http://www.otib.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> oh wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Don't you wish we had some youngsters. <img src='http://www.otib.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> oh wait. Giving youth a chance is not the City way. This has been carried over from the Johnson era. You cannot put a price on giving some of the kids a run out to inspire them and others around them.This policy of not playing any of our youth is severley damaging the future of the club, the board really need to hammer this home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Giving youth a chance is not the City way. This has been carried over from the Johnson era. You cannot put a price on giving some of the kids a run out to inspire them and others around them.This policy of not playing any of our youth is severley damaging the future of the club, the board really need to hammer this home. Still on the bright side Millen has told us if the senior players take their foot off of the pedal, he will not hesitate to use the youngsters, ooooooh I bet the senior players clutching their umpteenth DVD from the management are really worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Bristol-City_ Posted April 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 -2. On my post what a joke. Haters, speak up. Everyone would love to hear your utter shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 We should have played at least one youngster today. No harm and hardly a real problem to the rest of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 I would have like to have seen Edwards get a game, Spence has done very well at right back though and it would be harsh to drop him. In an ideal world I would push Spence in the middle and drop Nyatanga Apart from Edwards who else did you want to see play? Wilson is just back from a very long term injury and wont be rushed back, same with Danny Ball. Marlon Jackon hasnt impressed when i have seen him this season and hasnt cut it either when out on loan in League two, apart from that there is Joe Lennox who barely played at Bath on loan and the 2 irish lads. I agree we need to play the youngsters but we dont seem to have the quality coming through at the moment...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 I would have like to have seen Edwards get a game, Spence has done very well at right back though and it would be harsh to drop him. In an ideal world I would push Spence in the middle and drop Nyatanga Apart from Edwards who else did you want to see play? Wilson is just back from a very long term injury and wont be rushed back, same with Danny Ball. Marlon Jackon hasnt impressed when i have seen him this season and hasnt cut it either when out on loan in League two, apart from that there is Joe Lennox who barely played at Bath on loan and the 2 irish lads. I agree we need to play the youngsters but we dont seem to have the quality coming through at the moment...! But Keith said he has looked fit in the Reserves and named him as one he would play if the seniors were not performing. Not much point though as with Carey given a new contract and Keith wanting to sign another centre half he will not even make the bench next season. Best for all if he moved on therefore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 But Keith said he has looked fit in the Reserves and named him as one he would play if the seniors were not performing. Not much point though as with Carey given a new contract and Keith wanting to sign another centre half he will not even make the bench next season. Best for all if he moved on therefore. fair enough, he may bring Wilson in for the Forest game but is more likely to bring Carey back people keep talking about playing all these youngsters we have but im struggling to think of who they mean! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 fair enough, he may bring Wilson in for the Forest game but is more likely to bring Carey back people keep talking about playing all these youngsters we have but im struggling to think of who they mean! Edwards and Wilson. Jackson could replace Maynard as we don't really have any pacey strikers to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Edwards and Wilson. Jackson could replace Maynard as we don't really have any pacey strikers to replace him. but why play Jackson for the sake of it? he didnt produce anything when on loan at Aldershot and hasnt been prolific for the reserves.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 but why play Jackson for the sake of it? he didnt produce anything when on loan at Aldershot and hasnt been prolific for the reserves.. I'm not saying he has to play but it'd be nice to see with nothing to play for. He's been offered an extension to his contract and what's the point of offering youngsters all these contracts if they never get the chance to prove themselves in the 1st team. We have nothing to play for, so nothing to lose. He's also scored in almost every match bar 1/2 reserves wise this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 I'm not saying he has to play but it'd be nice to see with nothing to play for. He's been offered an extension to his contract and what's the point of offering youngsters all these contracts if they never get the chance to prove themselves in the 1st team. We have nothing to play for, so nothing to lose. He's also scored in almost every match bar 1/2 reserves wise this year. fair point, if we are going to lose Maynard i would prefer Stead and Pitman to play together to build on their partnership for next season - but have Jackson the bench to come on during the second half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 The reality of the situation is that Jackson and Edwards are not yet good enough. Wilson and Ribeiro aren't yet fit enough or still recovering from injury. Who else is there to throw in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappers Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Still on the bright side Millen has told us if the senior players take their foot off of the pedal, he will not hesitate to use the youngsters, ooooooh I bet the senior players clutching their umpteenth DVD from the management are really worried. We definitely agree on this one. I can't see what motivation our youngsters have, the best they can hope for seems to be a spot on the bench, with absolutely no hope of setting foot onto the pitch. It's not really surprising that they are not developing, and the lack of opportunities must be demoralising, not just for the current crop, but also the ones following behind, not forgetting the players we are trying to attract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 I'm not saying he has to play but it'd be nice to see with nothing to play for. He's been offered an extension to his contract and what's the point of offering youngsters all these contracts if they never get the chance to prove themselves in the 1st team. We have nothing to play for, so nothing to lose. He's also scored in almost every match bar 1/2 reserves wise this year. Exactly. Why give a contract away if the consensus is he isnt good enough. Give the lads a chance to play in there proper position and see how they do, whats the worst that can happen, we lose, big deal. We may discover another Jim Brennan is amongst us. If they fail to perform it may inspire them to do better. Doing nothing will only produce nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanaticRed Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Edwards and Wilson. Jackson could replace Maynard as we don't really have any pacey strikers to replace him. I cant belive you just said that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 -2. On my post what a joke. Haters, speak up. Everyone would love to hear your utter shite Because you're a bigoted little child and you're talking our of your arse. Sheffield United have a poor squad and very promising youth, on paper we had a very good starting XI out there today, I'm not an advocate for or against youth being blooded in because you don't know what kind of effect it's going to have, and I would wager any money that it would have not won us the game today. Millen obviously didn't do enough to motivate the players today, but the quality of the squad compared to the youngsters, in comparison to the same at United, is a completely different scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 The reality of the situation is that Jackson and Edwards are not yet good enough. Wilson and Ribeiro aren't yet fit enough or still recovering from injury. Who else is there to throw in. Yes, but don't let the facts get in the way! Jackson's record whilst out on loan in League Two simply does not merit another contract for a 21 or 22 year old. I expect that Wilson will play on Monday now. If he does I hope the crowd are forgiving as he's only played a few reserve games against poor opposition since being out for almost a year and would be lining up against the likes of Earnshaw and Tyson, a huge step up from facing Nike Academy in a 7-0 win, Yate Town and Yeovil's second team. Ribeiro is simply not fit often enough to be considered whilst I think the bottom line with Edwards must be that KM doesn't think he's good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 We definitely agree on this one. I can't see what motivation our youngsters have, the best they can hope for seems to be a spot on the bench, with absolutely no hope of setting foot onto the pitch. It's not really surprising that they are not developing, and the lack of opportunities must be demoralising, not just for the current crop, but also the ones following behind, not forgetting the players we are trying to attract. Well sort of agree, but today not even a hope of a spot on the bench, I am right in saying Wilson is 22 years old not exactly a youngster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordofthebling Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 What about Ryan Harley? Brilliant... Give yoof a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Well sort of agree, but today not even a hope of a spot on the bench, I am right in saying Wilson is 22 years old not exactly a youngster. It's nothing to do with age in this case, Wilson has played about 3 reserve games since returning from nearly a year out injured, I doubt if he is anywhere near ready to be thrown in to a Championship game at this point, it is unfortunate for him and his development but his best bet is will be return fully fit in pre-season or if he is not in Millens plans move on . From what I have seen Edwards and Jackson they are nowhere near the required standard yet, Edwards needs to kick on next season and Jackson should be moved on in the Summer. Ribiero is out injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Milwall youngster running the show tonight too. Seems alot of clubs have real quality coming through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 We're always told we do..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 It's nothing to do with age in this case, Wilson has played about 3 reserve games since returning from nearly a year out injured, I doubt if he is anywhere near ready to be thrown in to a Championship game at this point, it is unfortunate for him and his development but his best bet is will be return fully fit in pre-season or if he is not in Millens plans move on . From what I have seen Edwards and Jackson they are nowhere near the required standard yet, Edwards needs to kick on next season and Jackson should be moved on in the Summer. Ribiero is out injured. Sorry to repeat again but Keith said Wilson was fit and was one of those he would consider picking. But to repeat again there is no point as with Carey given another contract and Keith wanting another centre half Wilson would not even make the bench next year. For his own sake he should be released. Ribeiro is indeed not fit but if Keith gets his wish he wiill be at best 2nd choice right back next year, 3rd if Carey is ahead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 It's nothing to do with age in this case, Wilson has played about 3 reserve games since returning from nearly a year out injured, I doubt if he is anywhere near ready to be thrown in to a Championship game at this point, it is unfortunate for him and his development but his best bet is will be return fully fit in pre-season or if he is not in Millens plans move on . From what I have seen Edwards and Jackson they are nowhere near the required standard yet, Edwards needs to kick on next season and Jackson should be moved on in the Summer. Ribiero is out injured. OK so the problem really is our youngsters are not good enough, that is not what Millen implied when he said if his senior players failed to perform for the remainder of the season he would not hesitate to play the youngsters, talk about mixed messages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 OK so the problem really is our youngsters are not good enough, that is not what Millen implied when he said if his senior players failed to perform for the remainder of the season he would not hesitate to play the youngsters, talk about mixed messages. No, not that either. We are constantly told the next batch are very good. Scrap the academy I say, because if they aren't getting games whats the point. Wilson is 22, he should have about 50 league games behind him by now, with or without his injury record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Sorry to repeat again but Keith said Wilson was fit and was one of those he would consider picking. But to repeat again there is no point as with Carey given another contract and Keith wanting another centre half Wilson would not even make the bench next year. For his own sake he should be released. Ribeiro is indeed not fit but if Keith gets his wish he wiill be at best 2nd choice right back next year, 3rd if Carey is ahead of him. I rate both Ribiero and Wilson highly but pre-season is going to be key to there futures at the club. They need to stay fit and justify there squad positions. Wilson has been unlucky in the sense that GJ was reluctant to give youth players a run in the team, he has also had a couple of bad injuries at bad times which have hampered his development or opportunities for possible game time. Wilson may have the basic fitness to play but I am skeptical he would cope with 90 minutes of Championship football there is no way he can be expected to be up to speed or sharp enough after a few reserve games. Personally I think starting him against Forest could cause more harm than good for him. He is not experienced at this level so he can't rely on this to get him through games whilst getting match sharp. Forest will go for the throat as they still have something to play for, depending on how the game pans out maybe give him 30 mins off the bench against Forest, 45 min at Derby then start him against Hull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 I rate both Ribiero and Wilson highly but pre-season is going to be key to there futures at the club. They need to stay fit and justify there squad positions. Wilson has been unlucky in the sense that GJ was reluctant to give youth players a run in the team, he has also had a couple of bad injuries at bad times which have hampered his development or opportunities for possible game time. Wilson may have the basic fitness to play but I am skeptical he would cope with 90 minutes of Championship football there is no way he can be expected to be up to speed or sharp enough after a few reserve games. Personally I think starting him against Forest could cause more harm than good for him. He is not experienced at this level so he can't rely on this to get him through games whilst getting match sharp. Forest will go for the throat as they still have something to play for, depending on how the game pans out maybe give him 30 mins off the bench against Forest, 45 min at Derby then start him against Hull. Spirited defence of Millen today, firstly Millen is every bit as reluctant as GJ to give youth players a run in the team and secondly Millen made 3 changes at half time so Wilson could have had 45 minutes and not the 90 minutes you say he was'nt up to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 I rate both Ribiero and Wilson highly but pre-season is going to be key to there futures at the club. They need to stay fit and justify there squad positions. Wilson has been unlucky in the sense that GJ was reluctant to give youth players a run in the team, he has also had a couple of bad injuries at bad times which have hampered his development or opportunities for possible game time. Wilson may have the basic fitness to play but I am skeptical he would cope with 90 minutes of Championship football there is no way he can be expected to be up to speed or sharp enough after a few reserve games. Personally I think starting him against Forest could cause more harm than good for him. He is not experienced at this level so he can't rely on this to get him through games whilst getting match sharp. Forest will go for the throat as they still have something to play for, depending on ho the game pans out maybe give him 30 mins off the bench against Forest, 45 min at Derby then start him against Hull. Yes, that's it, I dont think many are asking them to play full games yet. Just give the poor bas...ds some hope by bringing them off the bench for 20 -30 minutes. Imagine being a young kid and getting to play a proper league game in front of 14000 fans, f..k me if that dont give you the confidence to get better nothing will. At least they will believe they have something to train hard for, and surely their colleagues will want to aim for the same. This is a farcical situation for the academy lads to be in, no hope of playing, no matter how bad the first team perform or how hard they train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 No, not that either. We are constantly told the next batch are very good. Scrap the academy I say, because if they aren't getting games whats the point. Wilson is 22, he should have about 50 league games behind him by now, with or without his injury record. The injury record is a concern, I am not sure that we develop player physically ready for this league. I would never scrap the Academy but I would like to see a comprehensive review of every aspect of the setup and coaches both internally and externally from a reputable figure head. The academy is not currently working anywhere near to its potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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