Wardie Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 After the utter shambles of this afternoon the one shining light was Mr Kilkenny! Why did he not start! Bridged the gap between back four and midfield. even when he didnt have the ball he was always looking about for people in space, always wanted the ball. I dont give a toss if he is comes across as a moody bastard if he brings a bit of passion to the team it can only be a good thing! Welcome to Ashton Gate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex#40 Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Also was constantly talking to everyone around him, directing traffic and as you say wanting the ball. Start him every game and make him Captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derk94 Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Also was constantly talking to everyone around him, directing traffic and as you say wanting the ball. Start him every game and make him Captain. I agree, even if it's his first season, he is more of a captain than any of the others! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Why was he on the bench- fitness or bad team selection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuedgeRed Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Should of started and IMO should be given the captains armband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fka dagest Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Also was constantly talking to everyone around him, directing traffic and as you say wanting the ball. Start him every game and make him Captain. You're right. So obvious. It was remarkable. He was on a few minutes and was prepared to take on the responsibility of ordering people about, giving instructions and basically communicating. As I said in another thread Ketih to save his job will have to drop one of his favourite sons - personally I think he'll drop Elliot, which in my opinion would be the wrong choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJC Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 It's a bit of a vicious circle. You want a hard nosed leader to tell it how it is, however when the outstanding candidate is an {apparently} abrasive summer signing you can't be too bold. It's one thing, and I agree, to say we need this type of leader. It is another to thrust the responsibility onto a new player whom the others are unfamiliar. Respect is earned and in throwing the armband to Killkenny there is a very real danger it could do more harm than good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC_Red Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 wouldnt be surprised to see him move Spence in to the middle and skuse to right back to accomodate Kilkenny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funky monkey Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 That is a very good shout making kilkenny captain. We need a bit of attitude in the team and we also need some hard f#cker at the back to. But if your gonna be captain surely they start games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuedgeRed Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 The only times Albert received the ball in any space was after Kilkenny came on, mostly passes by Kilkenny himself! As well as talking constantly, as other posters have stated, he was even giving advice/instructions to Marv who in turn seemed to accept what was being said. Now usually Marv would just tell another player to **** off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Exile Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 He's going to need to do a lot more than he did in 20 minutes to convince me. Yes he had a lot of the ball, but most of the time he was so deep he was positioned like a third centre back. At three up, Ipswich could afford to sit back, have a chuckle and watch him go nowhere. Is this is natural game or did someone tell him to do that? It gave the illusion that he was on the ball a lot, but he was hardly put under any pressure and from such a deep starting point he didn't look like creating anything. His performance was noticeable but in no way effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 He's going to need to do a lot more than he did in 20 minutes to convince me. Yes he had a lot of the ball, but most of the time he was so deep he was positioned like a third centre back. At three up, Ipswich could afford to sit back, have a chuckle and watch him go nowhere. Is this is natural game or did someone tell him to do that? It gave the illusion that he was on the ball a lot, but he was hardly put under any pressure and from such a deep starting point he didn't look like creating anything. His performance was noticeable but in no way effective. Agreed. It's clutching at straws to see anything revelatory in his performance yesterday. Not to say there isn't more to come. Hard to make much of an impact when the game is lost, the opposition is playing 4-5-1 and they've shut up shop. Should have started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuedgeRed Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 His performance was noticeable As was James'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 He's going to need to do a lot more than he did in 20 minutes to convince me. Yes he had a lot of the ball, but most of the time he was so deep he was positioned like a third centre back. At three up, Ipswich could afford to sit back, have a chuckle and watch him go nowhere. Is this is natural game or did someone tell him to do that? It gave the illusion that he was on the ball a lot, but he was hardly put under any pressure and from such a deep starting point he didn't look like creating anything. His performance was noticeable but in no way effective. Spot on He was playing very deep, mostly in our half, taking the ball of the defence - but playing square short passes. he tried the odd longer ball but with all 11 Ipswich players in front of him it was always going to be hard. The game was over by the time he came on and it's not fair to judge him - either way - Yes he was on the ball a lot and showed for the pass but in terms of end product, there wan't any. He reminded me of Lee Johnson, I'm not saying that to be insulting but just that LJ plays a similar way. Let's see him over the full 90 minutes CR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 He's going to need to do a lot more than he did in 20 minutes to convince me. Yes he had a lot of the ball, but most of the time he was so deep he was positioned like a third centre back. At three up, Ipswich could afford to sit back, have a chuckle and watch him go nowhere. Is this is natural game or did someone tell him to do that? It gave the illusion that he was on the ball a lot, but he was hardly put under any pressure and from such a deep starting point he didn't look like creating anything. His performance was noticeable but in no way effective. double post sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 You're right. So obvious. It was remarkable. He was on a few minutes and was prepared to take on the responsibility of ordering people about, giving instructions and basically communicating. As I said in another thread Ketih to save his job will have to drop one of his favourite sons - personally I think he'll drop Elliot, which in my opinion would be the wrong choice. I think he would rather change to 3 in midfield than drop either of those two, which is fine but you can't play Pitman on the left of a 3 up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harito495 Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Kilkenny was playing very deep BUUUT is this a bad thing ? JCR looks like he wanted to play the same way but was frustrated by people not doing it, but Kilkenny looked like he could grab the game by the scruff of its neck. So Kilkenny as a DM & JCR as a AMC ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Spot on He was playing very deep, mostly in our half, taking the ball of the defence - but playing square short passes. he tried the odd longer ball but with all 11 Ipswich players in front of him it was always going to be hard. The game was over by the time he came on and it's not fair to judge him - either way - Yes he was on the ball a lot and showed for the pass but in terms of end product, there wan't any. He reminded me of Lee Johnson, I'm not saying that to be insulting but just that LJ plays a similar way. Let's see him over the full 90 minutes CR My feelings exactly. When he came on he seemed to sit in front of the back four and just make short sideways/backwards passes (just like Johnson). He did get further forward occassionally, but I didn't really see any 'play maker' style passes. So in my view, he has still to prove how good he is. However, I agree he should start for the nexxt few games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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