Tomo Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/2011/10/19/st-johnstone-boss-derek-mcinnes-wins-race-for-bristol-city-job-86908-23498984/ A bit critical of our selection process ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/2011/10/19/st-johnstone-boss-derek-mcinnes-wins-race-for-bristol-city-job-86908-23498984/ A bit critical of our selection process ! , not anyway to run a football club really is it. And when you have to make a decison about the future of the football club because the major investor buggers off on holiday. If I was St Johnstone and was messed around like that I would refuse permission to speak to him again. It's plain wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZepperin Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 In previous selection processes, when SL was chairman, it was a case of "Ready, Fire, Aim". Now that he is the owner, it's a case of "Ready, Aim, Aim....". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonL Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 I think SL needs to be bought a copy of Football Manager for XMAS and leave the real thing to someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 backs up what I've said for a while. ALL big decisions go through Lansdown and rightly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bored Dilemma Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Absolutely vital if true that McInnes becomes the most important person at the club with full executive power to hire, fire etc etc...., Tough position for all at Ashton Gate if he calls all the big decisions - in my experience you tend to get a medieval court type situation with fuzzy lines of power and cronyism. Sort it out Del boy and don't be afraid to challenge the accepted norm!!!! I'm glad he's got the job as I hope he'll say stuff people don't want to hear!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent Pepper Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 I'd rather he does stuff people want to see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 The whole process, everything about it, has been a shambles! If its true it has taken so long cus SL was on holiday it makes the whole thing even more of a joke. Could end up getting out man two games too late! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bored Dilemma Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 I posted before that contenders may have found the process bewildering - now seems likely. Fairly sure BCFC could be streamlined and organisation more fathomable - just who is everyone and what do they do? Extends to the squad as well. Tough smart Scot could be just what we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Jim Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 What a total shambles. It's no wonder we're bottom of the league with all this mismanagement - the board couldn't run a bath. I hope McInnes is given licence to run the club as he wants and is given autonomy on the running of the entire playing side, including all levels of coaching. At the moment the club is embarassing - things need to change and the new man has a big job on his hands - let's hope he can galvanise us all like Gary Johnson did, because that's what we need right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Go into the City shop and treat yourselves to ' BRISTOL CITY -The Modern Era' by David Woods, and see how history repeats itself at the Gate with succesive boards. By the way I'mnot related to David Woods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 This sits well with what I was told about the board last night. Apparently Sexstone is merely a puppet and doesn't have the confidence to make any decisions without going through SL. He paniced over the Millen situation and called up SL who came over for the Blackpool game and made the final call. You have to ask, if SL has such an influence - what is the point in having Sexstone acting as 'Chairman' and then having Guy Price beneath him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrizzleRed Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 http://www.dailyreco...86908-23498984/ A bit critical of our selection process ! So if this is true, there was us all thinking the delay was due to contract negotiations going on prior to the announcement, when in fact our board still hadn't even decided who they wanted! Now that is pretty ridiculous and doesn't bode well for when big decisions are needed in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclayOLD Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 The David Woods series of books is a great idea. I helped him with some of the record compiling. He is a bit narked because Bristol City are the only club in the country that has such a comprehensive published record of every match since the club were formed (including the line-ups and scorers of City and their opponents + short match reports and positions of both teams in the table) but the club don't publicize this fact. Even Manchester United does not have such a comprehensive published account of its history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henryhallsdanceband Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 tomo - just because you've got a St Andrews and a St Pauls (and loads of other Saints in the city including ) we're not usually referred to as St John's. Mind you you've stumbled upon why we're called St Johnstone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 This sits well with what I was told about the board last night. Apparently Sexstone is merely a puppet and doesn't have the confidence to make any decisions without going through SL. He paniced over the Millen situation and called up SL who came over for the Blackpool game and made the final call. You have to ask, if SL has such an influence - what is the point in having Sexstone acting as 'Chairman' and then having Guy Price beneath him? So SL can live in guernsey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Their chairman knows as much about the selection process as the evening post. The only people who know the inside story as such are those on the panel; say SL does make the final call (certainly if he had the casting vote, that would go with selection panels across the modern world), McInnes would not be made aware that the board were waiting to hear back from him if it is so unprofessional as is made out. I don't need to remind you these people, SteveL especially, have all been successful businessmen before their time at City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswood Village Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Their chairman knows as much about the selection process as the evening post. The only people who know the inside story as such are those on the panel; say SL does make the final call (certainly if he had the casting vote, that would go with selection panels across the modern world), McInnes would not be made aware that the board were waiting to hear back from him if it is so unprofessional as is made out. I don't need to remind you these people, SteveL especially, have all been successful businessmen before their time at City. Exactly. That piece is just a cobbled together article based largely on the opinion/asumption of the St Johnstone chairman, who does not know anything about the selection process at Bristol city. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red & Gold Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pezo Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Steve left the board and shouldn't be involved in any decisions. He left a new board in place to run the club - let them run the club! If he is unhappy then he should bring it up at the AGM as majority shareholder I assume he could reappoint himself as chairman if he wanted to be involved as much as it sometimes appears he has been. Sextoy needs to have a quite word and politely ask him to stop overstepping his mandate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Steve left the board and shouldn't be involved in any decisions. He left a new board in place to run the club - let them run the club! If he is unhappy then he should bring it up at the AGM as majority shareholder I assume he could reappoint himself as chairman if he wanted to be involved as much as it sometimes appears he has been. Sextoy needs to have a quite word and politely ask him to stop overstepping his mandate. Disagree. Sexstone was always going to be responsible for the day to day running and SL for the major decisions - afterall its SL who puts his money where his mouth is. This decision is major and I cant blame SL for wanting to have a input - Its clear that Sexstone has been in charge for the process and has been involved in the decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 This sits well with what I was told about the board last night. Apparently Sexstone is merely a puppet and doesn't have the confidence to make any decisions without going through SL. He paniced over the Millen situation and called up SL who came over for the Blackpool game and made the final call. You have to ask, if SL has such an influence - what is the point in having Sexstone acting as 'Chairman' and then having Guy Price beneath him? Steve Lansdown is still the owner, the major investor and person to turn to swallow up club losses. He is obviously going to have the call on the biggest decisions. Sexstone is in charge of the day to day business and operation of the club. Not all executives and chairman have complete authority, many act as in our case with investors/shareholders or owners being consulted for the biggest decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 SL would have to ok the 500K or whatever compensation for DMc (+assistent?). The club cannot afford to pay this itself so again we have to go to SL, cap in hand. Quite right that he has to OK those sort of financial decisions otherwise how the **** would we pay for it? Don't forget paying off Millen and Wigley(?) as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Steve Lansdown is still the owner, the major investor and person to turn to swallow up club losses. He is obviously going to have the call on the biggest decisions. Sexstone is in charge of the day to day business and operation of the club. Not all executives and chairman have complete authority, many act as in our case with investors/shareholders or owners being consulted for the biggest decisions. Just sounds like we effectively have 2 chief execs, Sexy and Price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bored Dilemma Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 We have a medieval court! Not sure who the jester is?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Disagree. Sexstone was always going to be responsible for the day to day running and SL for the major decisions - afterall its SL who puts his money where his mouth is. This decision is major and I cant blame SL for wanting to have a input - Its clear that Sexstone has been in charge for the process and has been involved in the decision. Exactly. Sexstone despite some people's view, is VERY good at the busy side of running the club, anyone whose been to any of the Stadium hearings/meetings will know that he is a very clever man, however on football matters he's still learning his way and for major decisions rightly has gone to Lansdown. There is a number of very good BUSINESSMEN on the board, however not enough football minded people, Lansdown I've said it before but we needed to get an old head on board, not so much a director of football, but someone to over see things as a link between the board, management and the youth setup, Bobby Gould has been working with the club recently, he's a wise old head and lives local, someone with his epxerience in football would be great to help the board learn from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangers Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 We have a medieval court! Not sure who the jester is?? Lee Johnson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bored Dilemma Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 I like the previous poster about a football head on the board but not a director of football. I was at Old Trafford in 89?? - they lost at home to Palace who had Wright and Bright up front - Fergie recalls it as his low point. Fans with banners chanting Fergie out etc etc. His greatest ally on the board?? Bobby Charlton So it can work that idea - my suggestion would be (and I'm serious) Gerry Gow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepers Ball Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 What a surprise Why is it our board always manage to piss someone off ? With their business background youd think they would be more professional about things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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