The Hippo Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Anyone got any pics, architects drawings of what the proposed two-tier Atyeo stand would have looked like before we had to reduce its size? Have seen the proposed pics of a rebuilt East End and Williams planned under Davidson (i think?) which makes AG look like Home Park mark 2, glad that never materialised! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 I think we originally planned to have boxes at the back of the Dolman too but the problem was access from them (need a fire escape) Don't remember anything from SD era on redoing the EE/Williams - we did 6-7 years ago start to plan and drew plans up for the east end. The worst thing about failing to get planning permission for a 2 tier stand (it was refused on shaddowing the houses behind) was the club owned nearly all of the house behind the open end in the 60's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 I think we originally planned to have boxes at the back of the Dolman too but the problem was access from them (need a fire escape) Don't remember anything from SD era on redoing the EE/Williams - we did 6-7 years ago start to plan and drew plans up for the east end. The worst thing about failing to get planning permission for a 2 tier stand (it was refused on shaddowing the houses behind) was the club owned nearly all of the house behind the open end in the 60's The single tier Atyeo financially crippled the club. Maybe 2 tiers would have made it even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hippo Posted April 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 I think someone on here has the combined redeveloped Williams and East End as there avatar pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del ete Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 View from outside: http://www.bcfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10327~307717,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaverface Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 I think someone on here has the combined redeveloped Williams and East End as there avatar pic. That's me - take a look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 The single tier Atyeo financially crippled the club. Maybe 2 tiers would have made it even worse. Really? From memory it cost not much more than £1.5m and we got a FL/Gov grant of nearly £1m didn't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 I think we originally planned to have boxes at the back of the Dolman too but the problem was access from them (need a fire escape) Yes that is correct. I thought the Atyeo was always single tier - I know the architects cocked up the disabled requirements. I thought the planning issues over two tiers was the East End replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Really? From memory it cost not much more than £1.5m and we got a FL/Gov grant of nearly £1m didn't we? yep correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Really? From memory it cost not much more than £1.5m and we got a FL/Gov grant of nearly £1m didn't we? I was reading a City book last year that went into detail about how we struggled to pay for it and how that had affected our ability to invest in players and the resultant struggles and relegation shortly after. I'll try to dig out the quotes if I can. We did get a grant, but I'm sure the it cost a lot more than you have quoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Quotes regarding the Atyeo (will look for more) - "As a consequence of the Atyeo Stand at the open end of the ground, Osman had to look for free-transfer signings." Bristol City, The Modern Era, David Woods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Intresting that in 2004 SL said we cudnt build a new stadium due to 3mil losses....look at now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 I was reading a City book last year that went into detail about how we struggled to pay for it and how that had affected our ability to invest in players and the resultant struggles and relegation shortly after. I'll try to dig out the quotes if I can. We did get a grant, but I'm sure the it cost a lot more than you have quoted. I'm sure I heard the Atyeo cost £1.5m as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellRedPhil Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 View from outside: http://www.bcfc.co.u...~307717,00.html Very interesting reading back over Lansdown's comments at this time: "It is important to recognise that we have just announced a £3 million loss and can't afford to suddenly build a new stadium from scratch. "But the good thing about Ashton Gate is that we can develop the site piecemeal, starting with the Williams Stand and then the Wedlock Stand, and make sure we put in the facilities to help us pay for it. "The Williams Stand is starting to look a bit tired and needs redeveloping. We could put in hospitality boxes and facilities for conference and banqueting, which in turn would generate money for the club." Oh how things have changed. The bits in bold especially are very different to the message that is now delivered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 The new Williams Stand was intended to have a capacity 11,543; pretty much the same as the entire Memorial Stadium! The new Wedlock Stand was intended to have 5,000 seats. That would mean a new total capacity at Ashton Gate of around 27,000. We did also have the intention of putting 23 hospitality boxes in the Dolman in 1994. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCAGFC Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 The cost of redevelopment between 2004 & 2010/2012 is massive, knocking the Williams down would cost £2m+ alone. Think that is why the message has changed, possibly because the nature/style of hospitality has changed since 2004 as well. BCAGFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Very interesting reading back over Lansdown's comments at this time: "It is important to recognise that we have just announced a £3 million loss and can't afford to suddenly build a new stadium from scratch. "But the good thing about Ashton Gate is that we can develop the site piecemeal, starting with the Williams Stand and then the Wedlock Stand, and make sure we put in the facilities to help us pay for it. "The Williams Stand is starting to look a bit tired and needs redeveloping. We could put in hospitality boxes and facilities for conference and banqueting, which in turn would generate money for the club." Oh how things have changed. The bits in bold especially are very different to the message that is now delivered. because back in 2004 Lansdown was worth about 30 million now he's worth 750 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 I have come across this from 2006/2007 for a new wedlock stand, This design looked crap! http://members.freez...co.uk/bcfcband/ Link doesnt go straight to the page. click on the ashton gate tab to the left. and then click the new east end stand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderup Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 There used to be a pic of the inside view of a redeveloped Williams and east end stands. Both were two tiered and the seats were black IIRC. The capacity of the Williams would have been huge (height of the Dolman x2) and the two stands looked brilliant. If anyone has still got that pic, I would like to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswood Robin Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 I remember the mock up in the Evening Post of the Dolman stand with executive boxes at the back. I'm so glad they didn't do that because it would have looked absolute crud. I think the club wanted the Atyeo to be two tier but had to amend the plans due to the height blocking the light to the houses behind. One thing I've never understood is the stupid roof on the shop! Who designed that? Why not have the roof sloping the other way and seats on top. One on the long list of baffling decisions from Ashton Gate down the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 There used to be a pic of the inside view of a redeveloped Williams and east end stands. Both were two tiered and the seats were black IIRC. The capacity of the Williams would have been huge (height of the Dolman x2) and the two stands looked brilliant. If anyone has still got that pic, I would like to see it. Not sure it was meant to be twice the height of the Dolman tbh. I do remember it was supposed to be based on the East Stand though at the Hawthorns. http://www.footballgroundguide.com/west_bromwich_albion/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 That's me - take a look Do you have a larger version? Looks great imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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