Maltshoveller Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 Not for me. Ronaldo can do everything, head it, great at set-pieces and has done it in the worlds hardest league. Football is a TEAM game He does very little of the "nasty hard working stuff" When the going gets hard Not sure Ronaldo wants to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 Ah right so until Messi plays in the prem he will always be second to Ronaldo. Utter rubbish. Not what i'm saying. Ronaldo is the ultimate footballer, Ronaldo can kick the ball at 120 mph, he can jump about 5ft, he can run ridiculous speed with the ball, let alone without it. He's very powerful, he can do everything. Put Messi in another team and imo he wouldn't get have half the success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 Ah right so until Messi plays in the prem he will always be second to Ronaldo. Utter rubbish. Do you think Messi would score as many as Ronaldo in the prem? I would love to see him come and test himself here but it will never happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 Not what i'm saying. Ronaldo is the ultimate footballer, Ronaldo can kick the ball at 120 mph, he can jump about 5ft, he can run ridiculous speed with the ball, let alone without it. He's very powerful, he can do everything. Put Messi in another team and imo he wouldn't get have half the success. Joker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 Do you think Messi would score as many as Ronaldo in the prem? I would love to see him come and test himself here but it will never happen Why wouldn't he score as many as Ronaldo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 The big differance between Messi and Ronaldo is Messi thinks its an honour to play for Barca Ronaldo thinks Madrid should be honoured to have him playing for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 The big differance between Messi and Ronaldo is Messi thinks its an honour to play for Barca Ronaldo thinks Madrid should be honoured to have him playing for them I agree there, Messi seems to be more humble and honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 Why wouldn't he score as many as Ronaldo? Because he would not be playing with 2 of the best midfielders in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john shaws hair Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 messi is excellent in a excellent team ronaldo is exellent in not such a good team love him or loath him ronaldo is the ultimate player his all round game is better than messi . messi has gone on record and said he wouldnt play in the prem and theres a reason for that he wouldnt cut it week in week out he just wouldnt ,ronaldo has the tee shirt i also agree with the fact messi is a much more humble person than ronaldo but for me put them both in say averages teams and ronaldo would outshine messi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 Not for me. Ronaldo can do everything, head it, great at set-pieces and has done it in the worlds hardest league. Messi's done it in the Worlds hardest league for the last 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 Messi's done it in the Worlds hardest league for the last 5 years. No chance, the quality of La Liga from 7th to 20th is shocking. Apart from Barcelona and Real Madrid, the Premier League is far superior to La Liga. They were both 30 odd points ahead of 3rd, if that was in England they wouldn't be so far ahead. No doubt about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duesseldorf Citizen Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 Did I read "England in the Semi's" somewhere ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 No chance, the quality of La Liga from 7th to 20th is shocking. Apart from Barcelona and Real Madrid, the Premier League is far superior to La Liga. They were both 30 odd points ahead of 3rd, if that was in England they wouldn't be so far ahead. No doubt about it. And the prem league is great in quality?? Are you having a laugh. Look at this season and how well the Spanish teams faired in Europe compared to our teams!! The best two teams by a mile failed to get out of the group stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 No chance, the quality of La Liga from 7th to 20th is shocking. Apart from Barcelona and Real Madrid, the Premier League is far superior to La Liga. Even though those two are superior than the rest, the quality of the Spanish league far out weighs the prem. It's of a far higher quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Put Messi in another team and imo he wouldn't get have half the success. Your thoughts are deluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Your thoughts are deluded. I agree with Jordan here. That Barca team is built around Messi, He has been bought up the Barcelona way. I would be very interested to see how well he performed in a completely different team with a completely different approach to the game. In terms of Ronaldo, he has played in 3 diffent teams, 3 different styles and proved factually, not by opinion, that he can play in different styles of football. Until Messi does that, Ronaldo will for me be a better player (and not just because he has played in the Prem, that just shows he can play to a high level in a different style of football.). Messi, great player, but has not proved he can do it elswhere....yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 I agree with Jordan here. That Barca team is built around Messi, He has been bought up the Barcelona way. I would be very interested to see how well he performed in a completely different team with a completely different approach to the game. In terms of Ronaldo, he has played in 3 diffent teams, 3 different styles and proved factually, not by opinion, that he can play in different styles of football. Until Messi does that, Ronaldo will for me be a better player (and not just because he has played in the Prem, that just shows he can play to a high level in a different style of football.). Messi, great player, but has not proved he can do it elswhere....yet Sorry, I totally disagree. The ball is the same the goals are the same where ever you play. Messi is a genius and could walk into any team or any league in the World and still be a genius. There's no defender on the planet that is good enough to stop him at the moment. His last two International games have resulted in two hat tricks. 82 goals in total last season! Ronaldo is not as good as him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Sorry, I totally disagree. The ball is the same the goals are the same where ever you play. Messi is a genius and could walk into any team or any league in the World and still be a genius. There's no defender on the planet that is good enough to stop him at the moment. His last two International games have resulted in two hat tricks. 82 goals in total last season! Ronaldo is not as good as him. Well Chelsea did twice and once with 10 men, so that would suggest the chelsea back 4, which was severly weakened as well at the time, were good enough to stop Messi I don't doubt messi is seen as brilliant. But like I say, that team is set up around him, it plays to his strengths. Real madrid ae not set up to play through Ronaldo. So in effect, no matter how good Messi is, the whole team is setup to play to his strengths, that said he still needs to perform on a regular basis or that could change, thankfully he is that good is doesn't have many bad games. Just pick him up, Drop him in say, Inter Milan's team. I am telling you know, Inter would not change their style of play for Messi, so it would need messi to adapt. Now as of yet there has been no proof to say he can or cannot adapt, it is purely hypothetical. Ronaldo has proved he can slot into different teams, with different styles of play and do the business over a season. Messi Is a great touch player dribbler and finisher. Ronaldo is the same, But he is also very very good in the air. I would say messi has been a little more consistent than Ronaldo, who occasionally goes missing. Spain is very much like Scotland, two dominant sides then a bit of a free for all as you go down. Obviously the standard is a lot higher, but the competition is not. I think both of them are on a par with one another. But Ronaldo has proven his class in other leagues and teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Well Chelsea did twice and once with 10 men, so that would suggest the chelsea back 4, which was severly weakened as well at the time, were good enough to stop Messi I don't doubt messi is seen as brilliant. But like I say, that team is set up around him, it plays to his strengths. Real madrid ae not set up to play through Ronaldo. So in effect, no matter how good Messi is, the whole team is setup to play to his strengths, that said he still needs to perform on a regular basis or that could change, thankfully he is that good is doesn't have many bad games. Just pick him up, Drop him in say, Inter Milan's team. I am telling you know, Inter would not change their style of play for Messi, so it would need messi to adapt. Now as of yet there has been no proof to say he can or cannot adapt, it is purely hypothetical. Ronaldo has proved he can slot into different teams, with different styles of play and do the business over a season. Messi Is a great touch player dribbler and finisher. Ronaldo is the same, But he is also very very good in the air. I would say messi has been a little more consistent than Ronaldo, who occasionally goes missing. Spain is very much like Scotland, two dominant sides then a bit of a free for all as you go down. Obviously the standard is a lot higher, but the competition is not. I think both of them are on a par with one another. But Ronaldo has proven his class in other leagues and teams. I think we will just have to agree to disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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