CIDER NOT CIDRE Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Ive heard people saying he is awful but when Ive seen him he has been no worse than Fontaine! I like Nyatanga because he is a localler (to an extent!), and I may be wrong but I think he came through our youth ranks! So how did he play last night if anyone was there???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidebet Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 He never came through the youth ranks, think he came from derby. We need a brand new centre defence imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 No, he came from Derby and is welsh. He was dreadful last night. I actually felt embarrassed for him. He constantly treats the ball like a hot potato. Any opportunity he had last night, head down, wouldn't even look up, he would pass back to the keeper. Rather than actually take some responsibility and want the ball, look up and pass it out to the full back. He won't even travel a yard with the ball at his feet. He will pass it off at any opportunity, rather than draw the strikers in before passing. That on top of his uneasy display says it all for me. Fonts was better than him easily last night, which at present is alarming to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snufflelufagus Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 No, he came from Derby and is welsh. He was dreadful last night. I actually felt embarrassed for him. He constantly treats the ball like a hot potato. Any opportunity he had last night, head down, wouldn't even look up, he would pass back to the keeper. Rather than actually take some responsibility and want the ball, look up and pass it out to the full back. He won't even travel a yard with the ball at his feet. He will pass it off at any opportunity, rather than draw the strikers in before passing. That on top of his uneasy display says it all for me. Fonts was better than him easily last night, which at present is alarming to say the least. So did you miss the two air kicks that Fontaine did?. Could easily have cost us 2 goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilli74 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 No, he came from Derby and is welsh. He was dreadful last night. I actually felt embarrassed for him. He constantly treats the ball like a hot potato. Any opportunity he had last night, head down, wouldn't even look up, he would pass back to the keeper. Rather than actually take some responsibility and want the ball, look up and pass it out to the full back. He won't even travel a yard with the ball at his feet. He will pass it off at any opportunity, rather than draw the strikers in before passing. That on top of his uneasy display says it all for me. Fonts was better than him easily last night, which at present is alarming to say the least. Yeah that's how I saw it ... Tangs was the worst of the 2 ... Both poor though and last night just highlighted again our need for a new defensive pair ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 So did you miss the two air kicks that Fontaine did?. Could easily have cost us 2 goals. No quite right, Henderson and Wood bullied both of them. Just overall Fonts was better than Nyayanga last night. Getting very bored of this whole, 'oh Fonts needs a ball winner' next to him rubbish. A defender is there to defend, not need someone to hold their hand the whole time. Incredibly worrying that Fontaine is our captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobArnold10 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Honestly thought Tangs did okay last night. Should never have been booked. He looked more competant than Fonts, which tells you far too much about our defence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 I thought he looked great in the air, and poor on the floor. But there's no point commenting on that because Lewin has never been capable of anything on the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc_Jamie Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Danny Shittu is exactly the type of defender we need right now. No nonsense defender who fonts would play well with - free agent in the summer wasn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Danny Shittu is exactly the type of defender we need right now. No nonsense defender who fonts would play well with - free agent in the summer wasn't he? Was funny when the 'mighty' Sam Baldock sent him crashing to the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc_Jamie Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Was funny when the 'mighty' Sam Baldock sent him crashing to the ground. Very! But he still won a free kick out of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 I think it was very unfair to bring in Nyatanga for James Wilson. If Nyatanga was going to come in, it should have been for Fonts. Nyatanga ultimately cost us two points as well, so it ended up being a bad move by Del. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Getting very bored of this whole, 'oh Fonts needs a ball winner' next to him rubbish. A defender is there to defend, not need someone to hold their hand the whole time. It's not an issue of needing somebody to 'hold his hand'. Some centre halves fall into the category of the natural dominating first ball centre half we need, and others don't. For example Carey has always been at his very best when partnered with that type of defender (Taylor, McCombe and even Amougou in the few games they played together) and you could never accuse Louis of needing anybody to hold his hand! The issue is being highlighted at the moment because Fontaine is making so many errors, but even if he was playing at his best we would still need a big brute in our defence to partner him as none of the players we have can do that job. As I said in a different thread last night even if Nyatanga and Fontaine were playing at their very best they would always struggle with the physical threat of Henderson and Wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JammyOne Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Nyatanga had a OK game last night. He should definitely play the next game if we haven't brought anyone else in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leetrundlesrightfoot Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Last seasons 1-2 win at Leicester (a Millen Buster Douglas as i like to call it) saw Wilson and nyatanga in central defense. id be happy with those 2, or carey/Wilson as a pairing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Last seasons 1-2 win at Leicester (a Millen Buster Douglas as i like to call it) saw Wilson and nyatanga in central defense. id be happy with those 2, or carey/Wilson as a pairing. The other nine games they played together at the start of last season produced no wins, so lets no pretend they are some kind of magical partnership. They were excellent that day though, as they were at Derby at the end of the previous season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarf Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Danny Shittu is exactly the type of defender we need right now. No nonsense defender who fonts would play well with - free agent in the summer wasn't he? Shittu was one of many decent freebies available last summer. I can't believe McInnes was too incompetent to realise we needed cover there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 It's not an issue of needing somebody to 'hold his hand'. Some centre halves fall into the category of the natural dominating first ball centre half we need, and others don't. For example Carey has always been at his very best when partnered with that type of defender (Taylor, McCombe and even Amougou in the few games they played together) and you could never accuse Louis of needing anybody to hold his hand! The issue is being highlighted at the moment because Fontaine is making so many errors, but even if he was playing at his best we would still need a big brute in our defence to partner him as none of the players we have can do that job. As I said in a different thread last night even if Nyatanga and Fontaine were playing at their very best they would always struggle with the physical threat of Henderson and Wood. No doubt with what you have said. I didn't make the 'holding hand' part very clear sorry. That's not so much to do with him being dominating, as like you say every defender is different, but if he is not a big strong ball winner he can still lead by example, given that he is the captain. Confidence or not, he should still be setting an example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 I don't know what you lot are complaining about, Nyatanga is a world class centre back, United will bid for him to strengthen their defence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIDER NOT CIDRE Posted October 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 Oh ok he isnt one of our youth players!! A lot of u are saying that Wilson is the best CB and I agree in tackling and heading terms but with the ball at his feet hes not great because he cant play a pass on the deck it's always lobbed up to our strikers via route 1! Still best defensive defender weve got IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider red Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 They are all sh*t. We are joint top scorers in the division and currently sit 13th. That says it all about our defenders for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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