hippy273 Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 http://uk.eurosport....-181329171.html Absolutely disgraceful behaviour, i thought dutch youth teams were supposed to have some of the best youth talent around. Poor attitude towards the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 I saw this too - a youth game FFS! Unbelievable, or it would be if I had any faith left in human nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123456789000 Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 No words... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JammyOne Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambridge Batch Red Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 http://uk.eurosport....-181329171.html Absolutely disgraceful behaviour, i thought dutch youth teams were supposed to have some of the best youth talent around. Poor attitude towards the game. Bit of an over-generalisation there? Edit: just read elsewhere that they are youths of Moroccan origin not Dutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calculus Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 http://uk.eurosport....-181329171.html Absolutely disgraceful behaviour, i thought dutch youth teams were supposed to have some of the best youth talent around. Poor attitude towards the game. ... and what makes you think that isn't possible here ? There are more enough knuckle draggers around our club that could cause something like this. All you need is someone thinking "he deserved a slap" and someone falling awkwardly or with an underlying health issue could easily die. And BTW, people doing stuff like this doesn't illustrate a "poor attitude the game" - it's a basic lack of humanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghornred Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 You have to blame the parents,but lack of discipline is widespread since you were not allowed to hit them. Human rights has a lot to answer for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom from sunny side Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 You have to blame the parents,but lack of discipline is widespread since you were not allowed to hit them. Human rights has a lot to answer for how can you say on the one hand that it's wrong for them to attack an adult and on the other that adults should hit kids? Violence is wrong whoever is the victim no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippy273 Posted December 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Bit of an over-generalisation there? Edit: just read elsewhere that they are youths of Moroccan origin not Dutch. Nevertheless they are living in Holland and bringing that sort of culture with them, which can only do more harm than good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 how can you say on the one hand that it's wrong for them to attack an adult and on the other that adults should hit kids? Violence is wrong whoever is the victim no? Bit to PC i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 You have to blame the parents,but lack of discipline is widespread since you were not allowed to hit them. Human rights has a lot to answer for 100% spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 You have to blame the parents,but lack of discipline is widespread since you were not allowed to hit them. Human rights has a lot to answer for Hitting them gives them more reason to go against what you say. Hitting children is wrong, I hope all parents who hit their kids get a whack in return when they are old enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Hitting them gives them more reason to go against what you say. Hitting children is wrong, I hope all parents who hit their kids get a whack in return when they are old enough. All depends on how and why the child is hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom from sunny side Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Bit to PC i think it's easy to say that but if you ask any expert in child psychology they will tell you that a child brought up in an environment where violence is commonplace is more likely to themselves behave in a violent manner. The term "pc" is too often used out of context, I have no problem with people getting annoyed by silly pc nonsense such as renaming man hole "person hole" but when it comes to treating people in a decent way that isn't political correctness, it's just being decent. Who's to say that the boys who attacked this official didn't come from a background where they were hit or were exposed to violence? What they did was clearly wrong but it's also wrong to hit children, it can't be" too pc" to not hit someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 it's easy to say that but if you ask any expert in child psychology they will tell you that a child brought up in an environment where violence is commonplace is more likely to themselves behave in a violent manner. The term "pc" is too often used out of context, I have no problem with people getting annoyed by silly pc nonsense such as renaming man hole "person hole" but when it comes to treating people in a decent way that isn't political correctness, it's just being decent. Who's to say that the boys who attacked this official didn't come from a background where they were hit or were exposed to violence? What they did was clearly wrong but it's also wrong to hit children, it can't be" too pc" to not hit someone. There is a massive difference between commonplace violence and giving a child a quick slap around the legs for misbehaving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 6 years for the Dad. 1-2 for the kids. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22942007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollywhyte Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 6 years for the Dad. 1-2 for the kids. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22942007 Nowhere near enough and whats worse is they're all set to appeal. Disgraceful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citymum Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Not much for taking someone's life! Seems the justice system in Holland is as lenient as ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcityman Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 You have to blame the parents,but lack of discipline is widespread since you were not allowed to hit them. Human rights has a lot to answer for Cant agree to that, saying no means no and sticking to it, setting boundaries at an early age and sticking to it, having time for your kids and not palming them off on tv or others to go to the pub, teaching kids that nothing is free and everything in life is earned and not taken for granted. Keeping to theses value has led to a well behaved daughter, who yes can sometimes as a teenager push the envelope, but she know when she is pushing her luck, all without ever having the need to raise a hand to her. Hitting a child only teaches them one thing, that if you want some one to do as you want, hit them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Cant agree to that, saying no means no and sticking to it, setting boundaries at an early age and sticking to it, having time for your kids and not palming them off on tv or others to go to the pub, teaching kids that nothing is free and everything in life is earned and not taken for granted. Keeping to theses value has led to a well behaved daughter, who yes can sometimes as a teenager push the envelope, but she know when she is pushing her luck, all without ever having the need to raise a hand to her. Hitting a child only teaches them one thing, that if you want some one to do as you want, hit them. Big part of modern insolence, though I took 3 palms to the bare backside (in public) if I was really playing up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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