Big Red Rich Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Starting tonight against Everton on ESPN. Good chance to watch a potential transfer target, starting infront of a back 4 who many say is an area we need strengthening. Is he the answer? Good start to the game by Cheltenham also.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted January 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Oh..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Red card for Pack or goal for Everton ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderArmyy Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Will have a game against Fellaini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted January 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Red card for Pack or goal for Everton ? Everton goal just as I posted that Cheltenham had started brightly. Unlucky mind, off the post and back out to Jelavic I think who knocked it into an empty net.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Game over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del ete Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 good long throw hes got...havent noticed him do a great deal else first half, up against a strong team though obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordofthebling Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 For someone so small, Osman is bossing this game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Pack looks like a member of a Simon Cowell boy band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Believesham Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Would be a good target IMO, seemed to be able to give a bit in the tackle, looked composed, not done alot wrong really, from what I've seen. I have got bored of the Cheltenham game now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Ah, the forums obsession with Pack. Ask any Cheltenham fan and they will tell you he is not Championship standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Pack has looked an ordinary League Two player, based on that the posters that have made him out to be our saviour and an Essien on our doorstep had better pipe down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Pack looks like a member of a Simon Cowell boy band. So does Paul Anderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 So does Paul Anderson. 2 more and this time next year we could be millionaires Rodders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Considering Del knew nothing about him, I would not be comfortable with him signing a player he admitted to knowing nothing about. I could be wrong, but from what I have seen Pack doesn't look like the answer to our midfield problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Penn would get into our current midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Penn would get into our current midfield. Penn is certainly better than Pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Penn is certainly better than Pack Played well good engine, got stuck in and didn't look out of place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Is Pack as good as some people make out? Didnt see tonights game and have only see him play 4 or 5 times and yet to see him have a good game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 I suppose he was only up against fellani who ain't all that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderArmyy Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Considering Del knew nothing about him, I would not be comfortable with him signing a player he admitted to knowing nothing about. I could be wrong, but from what I have seen Pack doesn't look like the answer to our midfield problems. i'd rather he signed a player he knew nothing about then a play who he's been watching for ages.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Ah, the forums obsession with Pack. Ask any Cheltenham fan and they will tell you he is not Championship standard. Mmmm...not the ones I know and who I just spent the evening with. Nor the many I was stood around tonight. Penn would get into our current midfield. Penn is certainly better than Pack Ha ha, Penn better than Pack. I don't think so boys. For the record, I was at the game tonight and from what I saw Pack played a decent game up against Fellaini, who is a player in excellent form in the Prem. The problem Pack has at Cheltenham in games such as this is that they don't keep the ball well enough and use his ability enough. Pack put in a good shift, made plenty of tackles, used the ball well when he got it (yes there were a couple of stray passes), and kept a decent check on Fellaini, making sure he was always sat just in front of him and Jelavic, allowing his centre half to make a challenge and Pack could pick up the 2nd ball. In all Chelts were somewhat unlucky to concede 5 and had a fair portion of the chances in the game. Pack played his part in shielding the back four as well as showing some decent quality on the ball. He played a very disciplined role and didn't venture forward as much as he normally would as he was assigned the job of looking after the big man. There is no-one else in the Chelts team who wants to keep hold of the ball and play football. Pack is the only one who passes the ball - he is wasted there in all honesty. As for Russell Penn - he got MOM tonight and it was obvious why. He runs around a lot, closes down a lot and makes a huge amount of effort. At that level that sort of effort will always mask your deficiencies. Penn has absolutely no quality on the ball. He is a terrier off it, runs around a hell of a lot, but give him the ball under pressure and he'll lose it. Ask him to make a slide rule pass through the defence and he will lose it. He's a good league 2 player, lots of energy and hustle bustle, but please don't tell me you think he is a better player than Pack - I'm not having that! Is Pack the answer to our midfield problems? No he isn't the answer to all of our problems. Is he better than what we have at the moment? In my opinion Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride of the west Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Dont forget pack is only what, 21? Compare him to skuse at that age. Ok skuse didnt play league 2 but i cant remember skuse ever having a major affect on games at that age. Ok hed get the odd mom for putting in a good shift but from what ive been told of pack, he affects most games he plays in and keeps them ticking. Lets be honest, the best our midfield has been this yr is just to be there to make up the numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud55 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Mmmm...not the ones I know and who I just spent the evening with. Nor the many I was stood around tonight. Ha ha, Penn better than Pack. I don't think so boys. For the record, I was at the game tonight and from what I saw Pack played a decent game up against Fellaini, who is a player in excellent form in the Prem. The problem Pack has at Cheltenham in games such as this is that they don't keep the ball well enough and use his ability enough. Pack put in a good shift, made plenty of tackles, used the ball well when he got it (yes there were a couple of stray passes), and kept a decent check on Fellaini, making sure he was always sat just in front of him and Jelavic, allowing his centre half to make a challenge and Pack could pick up the 2nd ball. In all Chelts were somewhat unlucky to concede 5 and had a fair portion of the chances in the game. Pack played his part in shielding the back four as well as showing some decent quality on the ball. He played a very disciplined role and didn't venture forward as much as he normally would as he was assigned the job of looking after the big man. There is no-one else in the Chelts team who wants to keep hold of the ball and play football. Pack is the only one who passes the ball - he is wasted there in all honesty. As for Russell Penn - he got MOM tonight and it was obvious why. He runs around a lot, closes down a lot and makes a huge amount of effort. At that level that sort of effort will always mask your deficiencies. Penn has absolutely no quality on the ball. He is a terrier off it, runs around a hell of a lot, but give him the ball under pressure and he'll lose it. Ask him to make a slide rule pass through the defence and he will lose it. He's a good league 2 player, lots of energy and hustle bustle, but please don't tell me you think he is a better player than Pack - I'm not having that! Is Pack the answer to our midfield problems? No he isn't the answer to all of our problems. Is he better than what we have at the moment? In my opinion Yes. From what I saw on tv I'd probably agree with that, it's difficult to try and watch 1 player on tv, but from watching him he looks a decent player, did a very respectable job against on if the best midfielders in the country. He put himself about well and actually looks as if he can pick a pass, ad has a bloody long throw to boot. He's young and looks as if he could improve. Would I sign him now? Probably not as although he looks to me as if he's got potential to be the player Elliot was when he first came, but with Cheltenham where they are they'd probably be asking for more money than we should be risking on a player who may not work out. He should have been picked up 18 months ago when we could probably hve got him for 200k at very most, and if it doesn't work we loose out on very little and can make most of it back, now with their position in the league I'd guess curly would want at least 400-500 k And if that doesn't work out we will loose most of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 he wouldn't improve our side and probbily be behind skuse pearson and elliot going on last night performance, We need experance not young at hungry we need a workhorse nasty shaun derry type player who will protect the back four Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 We'll have to agree to disagree then Harry. Pack might come on in the next few years but at the moment he isn't worth the outlay. We need someone good enough now and next season, not in three years time maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 he wouldn't improve our side and probbily be behind skuse pearson and elliot going on last night performance, We need experance not young at hungry we need a workhorse nasty shaun derry type player who will protect the back four Hard to judge him against one of the form teams in the country! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Interesting article on Pack from a Swindon Fan. http://thewashbag.com/2012/06/15/is-swindons-transfer-target-marlon-pack-tough-enough-for-di-canio/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Mmmm...not the ones I know and who I just spent the evening with. Nor the many I was stood around tonight. Ha ha, Penn better than Pack. I don't think so boys. For the record, I was at the game tonight and from what I saw Pack played a decent game up against Fellaini, who is a player in excellent form in the Prem. The problem Pack has at Cheltenham in games such as this is that they don't keep the ball well enough and use his ability enough. Pack put in a good shift, made plenty of tackles, used the ball well when he got it (yes there were a couple of stray passes), and kept a decent check on Fellaini, making sure he was always sat just in front of him and Jelavic, allowing his centre half to make a challenge and Pack could pick up the 2nd ball. In all Chelts were somewhat unlucky to concede 5 and had a fair portion of the chances in the game. Pack played his part in shielding the back four as well as showing some decent quality on the ball. He played a very disciplined role and didn't venture forward as much as he normally would as he was assigned the job of looking after the big man. There is no-one else in the Chelts team who wants to keep hold of the ball and play football. Pack is the only one who passes the ball - he is wasted there in all honesty. As for Russell Penn - he got MOM tonight and it was obvious why. He runs around a lot, closes down a lot and makes a huge amount of effort. At that level that sort of effort will always mask your deficiencies. Penn has absolutely no quality on the ball. He is a terrier off it, runs around a hell of a lot, but give him the ball under pressure and he'll lose it. Ask him to make a slide rule pass through the defence and he will lose it. He's a good league 2 player, lots of energy and hustle bustle, but please don't tell me you think he is a better player than Pack - I'm not having that! Is Pack the answer to our midfield problems? No he isn't the answer to all of our problems. Is he better than what we have at the moment? In my opinion Yes. I didn't actually say Penn was better than Pack, but based on what I saw last night Penn was deserving of his mom and actually put in effort and tracked back ah tracked back is that a new fangled philosophy midfielders tracking back. Pack was ok and did put in a decent shift, on that although fleeting snapshot I don't think a relegation battle would be ideal for him. Edit:- and the Swindon article to describe LJ and Killkenny, i'd like to see more of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Interesting article on Pack from a Swindon Fan. http://thewashbag.com/2012/06/15/is-swindons-transfer-target-marlon-pack-tough-enough-for-di-canio/ Just read this, was shocked to see such a likeness between this article and Harry's posts earlier in the season about Skuse, only to see that Harry rates this guy..... Mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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