Eco Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Hope England can make up today for the footy & cricket gloom, tough game but they can do it, will catch 1st half before heading off to AG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 I think it'll be a cracking game. NZ will probably have the better of it, but if England up their game a level they can take them. I hope Sam Burgess hasn't been listening to all this chat about it being him vs Sonny Bill, because if he just goes hunting for him we'll get drawn into a battle we can't win IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted November 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Think they need to up their game several levels ! Hope they were lulling everyone into a false sense of security with the performance against France, looking at the team today on paper they can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 I'm glad he's brought Widdop in; Chase shouldn't have even been in the squad on this seasons form, but Mcnamarra has no imagination. The problem against France (and other northern hemisphere teams) is that England can win with one hand ties behind their back- Italy doesn't count, they're all NRL! The biggest problem for England was McNammara's refusal to bring Danny Brough- nominated as the best player in the world this year- into the team, despite the fact he's the best half back in the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted November 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 I'm glad he's brought Widdop in; Chase shouldn't have even been in the squad on this seasons form, but Mcnamarra has no imagination. The problem against France (and other northern hemisphere teams) is that England can win with one hand ties behind their back- Italy doesn't count, they're all NRL! The biggest problem for England was McNammara's refusal to bring Danny Brough- nominated as the best player in the world this year- into the team, despite the fact he's the best half back in the world He's Scottish, allegedly ! Cole Skuse running the line today ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 He's Scottish, allegedly ! Cole Skuse running the line today ! He's from Dewsbury and having met the bloke, I'm not sure he's got the smarts to know where Scotland is!!! Amazing player though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted November 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 He is a great player. What a try by England, amazing game so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 England look far stronger at the back than I expected. Problem is New Zealand look capable of a lot of points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Cracking game of rugby. I think England needed to build a lead when they had all that pressure. Two amazing tries though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Tuivasa-Scheck, the Kiwi try scorer comes from Otara in Auckland. An area ( having had to travel through regularly when I lived in NZ) that makes Knowle West look posh. As hard an area as they come. Cracking game so far, I do get the impression the Kiwis are holding something back though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Threw it away at the end, utter stupidity to first give away that penalty and then put out that rush defence was beyond niaive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwired Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Tuivasa-Scheck, the Kiwi try scorer comes from Otara in Auckland. An area ( having had to travel through regularly when I lived in NZ) that makes Knowle West look posh. As hard an area as they come. Cracking game so far, I do get the impression the Kiwis are holding something back though! Don't make me laugh I live in NZ and I would happily walk round Otara anytime day or night, it not no where near as hard violent as a lot of areas in Bristol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Don't make me laugh I live in NZ and I would happily walk round Otara anytime day or night, it not no where near as hard violent as a lot of areas in Bristol. Well it must have changed from the Otara I knew 20 years ago. I lived in Howick and Otara was literally a no go area then. A very violent place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted November 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Threw it away at the end, utter stupidity to first give away that penalty and then put out that rush defence was beyond niaive Sadly typical of them to do something silly, in the last effing minute too ! Still, was a great game, the Burgess boys were awesome and it was a far better spectacle than any of the Rugby Union internationals I've been watching the past few eeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Sadly typical of them to do something silly, in the last effing minute too ! Still, was a great game, the Burgess boys were awesome and it was a far better spectacle than any of the Rugby Union internationals I've been watching the past few eeks. It was a fantastic spectacle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Sadly typical of them to do something silly, in the last effing minute too ! Still, was a great game, the Burgess boys were awesome and it was a far better spectacle than any of the Rugby Union internationals I've been watching the past few eeks. You obviously didn't watch Ireland v NZ today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted November 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 You obviously didn't watch Ireland v NZ today. Correct, but to be fair my post was written prior to that match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Correct, but to be fair my post was written prior to that match. The trouble with rugby league is anyone could of predicted the final before it all started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 The trouble with rugby league is anyone could of predicted the final before it all started. You could have predicted the only 3 teams that had a chance, but then again the All Blacks not winning the last union World Cup would have been a big shock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 You could have predicted the only 3 teams that had a chance, but then again the All Blacks not winning the last union World Cup would have been a big shock But you wouldn't of picked France to reach the final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 But you wouldn't of picked France to reach the final. True, but then again the only other teams that had any chance were SA, Australia, England & Wales; and history suggested the Aussies and Wales wouldn't get there. Can't deny there are more teams in with a shout in the 15 man World Cup though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 But you wouldn't of picked France to reach the final. I was in NZ 3 months before the last WC and they were all predicting a NZ v France final. I just wished I had taken notice and stuck money on it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted November 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 The trouble with rugby league is anyone could of predicted the final before it all started. Not at all, it was two from three ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted November 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Final denouement today, can the Kiwi's raise themselves again after their battering by the valiant English ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Final denouement today, can the Kiwi's raise themselves again after their battering by the valiant English ? I'm hoping for a kiwi win as I have NZ family. Here's a piece from the NZ herald today. By Paul Crawley The Kiwis call it "The Brotherhood" and they see it as their secret weapon heading into tomorrow's World Cup final against the Kangaroos. While the Aussies have been continually forced to quash rumours of a rift in the camp that has come as a direct result of their State of Origin rivalry, New Zealand have maintained all tournament that their greatest strength is their bond to each other. "Some guys haven't been in the camp for a few years and they feel like they have only been out of the camp for a few weeks or a few months," tough prop Jared Waerea-Hargreaves explained. "We call it 'The Brotherhood'. "The culture around the New Zealand Kiwis is just incredible. "The vibe everyone gets is like a big family. We have spoken about it for a few years and that is how it is." It was on show for all to see this week when Sonny Bill Williams stood on stage at the announcement of the International Player of the Year with tears in his eyes as he watched his teammates perform an impromptu haka as a mark of their respect. Little hooker Issac Luke led the battle cry but he had every man in the squad on their feet and in full voice with the Kangaroos seated only a couple of tables away. Williams spoke with a genuine passion about what the camaraderie has meant to him after coming back into the camp after five years away. "What I think I will miss when I retire is that feeling of walking off the pitch knowing that you have given your all but knowing that the players respect you," Williams said. "Knowing that you have got your brothers' respect." This is not just talk among a group that go into this match as the reigning World Cup champs and Four Nations title holders but as underdogs in the eyes of most. While the Kangaroos are the bookies' favourites and tournament top seeds, the Kiwis' last minute victory over England last week at Wembley has given them the opportunity to defend their title - and they go into this match with a point to prove to the world. In their eyes, they have been the Kangaroos' little brother for too long - now "The Brotherhood" wants to prove once and for all why they deserve to be now recognised as rugby league's dominant nation. "In terms of our squad and our talent like you said we are the World Champions. They have to bring it to us at the end of the day," Kiwis five-eighth Kieran Foran said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted November 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 I'm hoping for a kiwi win as I have NZ family. Here's a piece from the NZ herald today. By Paul Crawley The Kiwis call it "The Brotherhood" and they see it as their secret weapon heading into tomorrow's World Cup final against the Kangaroos. While the Aussies have been continually forced to quash rumours of a rift in the camp that has come as a direct result of their State of Origin rivalry, New Zealand have maintained all tournament that their greatest strength is their bond to each other. "Some guys haven't been in the camp for a few years and they feel like they have only been out of the camp for a few weeks or a few months," tough prop Jared Waerea-Hargreaves explained. "We call it 'The Brotherhood'. "The culture around the New Zealand Kiwis is just incredible. "The vibe everyone gets is like a big family. We have spoken about it for a few years and that is how it is." It was on show for all to see this week when Sonny Bill Williams stood on stage at the announcement of the International Player of the Year with tears in his eyes as he watched his teammates perform an impromptu haka as a mark of their respect. Little hooker Issac Luke led the battle cry but he had every man in the squad on their feet and in full voice with the Kangaroos seated only a couple of tables away. Williams spoke with a genuine passion about what the camaraderie has meant to him after coming back into the camp after five years away. "What I think I will miss when I retire is that feeling of walking off the pitch knowing that you have given your all but knowing that the players respect you," Williams said. "Knowing that you have got your brothers' respect." This is not just talk among a group that go into this match as the reigning World Cup champs and Four Nations title holders but as underdogs in the eyes of most. While the Kangaroos are the bookies' favourites and tournament top seeds, the Kiwis' last minute victory over England last week at Wembley has given them the opportunity to defend their title - and they go into this match with a point to prove to the world. In their eyes, they have been the Kangaroos' little brother for too long - now "The Brotherhood" wants to prove once and for all why they deserve to be now recognised as rugby league's dominant nation. "In terms of our squad and our talent like you said we are the World Champions. They have to bring it to us at the end of the day," Kiwis five-eighth Kieran Foran said. The Haka was truly awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Well.... Superb performance by the Aussies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted November 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Yes, could have been a lot worse as well ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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