where's the joy Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 please tell me what he's up to? seems quieter than 'howard hughes' mr dawe. but he was the one to bring in marlon pack etc and somehow get kilkenny out we presume. so what exactly does he do now, and was SOD's exit his idea answers please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Who he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 I might be wrong to assume but I would have thought with the January transfer window coming up, change of manager etc he would be working on a list of possible targets, agreeing budgets with the board, speaking to Agents, watching games with Cotterill etc. I'm glad he is so far under the radar as we can conduct our business without alerting other clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Everything the board has said indicates he'll be staying. How much faith you want to place in that I'll leave up to you. I would presume right now he's busy identifying potential transfer targets. Possibly for January but more likely for next Summer. He will still be in overall charge of recruitment, though I imagine they'd let Cotterill choose some players of his own for short-term fixing in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcherryberry Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 I would be 'quiet' to if i recommended Aidan Flint and Wagstaff.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 I would be 'quiet' to if i recommended Aidan Flint and Wagstaff.......... Both fairly regular goalscorers, ahem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Cotts will be identifiying targets giving them to burt and tell him to go get them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 We'd be better off with Burt and Ernie than the current lot EDIT: Mind you they are muppets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 We'd be better off with Burt and Ernie than the current lot EDIT: Mind you they are muppets the players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Cotts will be identifiying targets giving them to burt and tell him to go get them Oh i c sort of like Mum asking you to pop out and pick up a pint of milk like? I wonder how long Keith will put up with that type of arrangement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Oh i c sort of like Mum asking you to pop out and pick up a pint of milk like? I wonder how long Keith will put up with that type of arrangement. considering thats how alot of director of football roles work I would of thought quite a while, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 please tell me what he's up to? seems quieter than 'howard hughes' mr dawe. but he was the one to bring in marlon pack etc and somehow get kilkenny out we presume. so what exactly does he do now, and was SOD's exit his idea answers please I think we all seem to forget that most of us were quite impressed with Mr Burt and our pre season signings. Now its all gone tits up it is his fault which doesn't lie well with me. We have a squad that should be producing the goods in this league. FFS JET alone is a revelation. Perhaps the problem lies elsewhere like team management for instance. Lets give SC a little time to see what he can produce from his inheritance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 We'd be better off with Burt and Ernie than the current lot EDIT: Mind you they are muppets Pretty much all of them at the moment, but everything starts at the top.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITYAREREDANDWHITE Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 I would be 'quiet' to if i recommended Aidan Flint and Wagstaff.......... And Derrick Williams, Jordan Wynter, Jay Emmanuell Thomas. I also know for a fact that Karleigh Osborne was all his decision, O'Driscoll did not know anything about it until the day before, but Burt had been working on it for a few weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcherryberry Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 And Derrick Williams, Jordan Wynter, Jay Emmanuell Thomas. I also know for a fact that Karleigh Osborne was all his decision, O'Driscoll did not know anything about it until the day before, but Burt had been working on it for a few weeks Ill give him credit for Williams but Wynter's proved nothing yet. As per JET then every man and his dog knew about him. JET's agent approached SOD so his signing had nothing to do with Burt directly. Osbournes played one decent game at RB. The best bit of business Burt has done was to Get Chris Forrester over here on trial. Weather we sign him or not remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheshire_red Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Signed a new contract with St Patricks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcchris2016 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 I think I heard Forrester has gone back to St Pats in Ireland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Cotts will be identifiying targets giving them to burt and tell him to go get themYou may well be right but I hope not. If that's all he does it's really just a part-time admin job. I hope that he adds something more. We've been led to believe he has a lot of contacts / knowledge of suitable players. If so he should be suggesting some players to Cotts. Of course this will only work if he's on the same wavelength as Cotts and knows the type of player he wants. If not there will be some very short conversations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_s Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 And Derrick Williams, Jordan Wynter, Jay Emmanuell Thomas. I also know for a fact that Karleigh Osborne was all his decision, O'Driscoll did not know anything about it until the day before, but Burt had been working on it for a few weeks So what part did SOD have in these signings? Any? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 So what part did SOD have in these signings? Any? JET was a SOD signing. He's done ok I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Ill give him credit for Williams but Wynter's proved nothing yet. As per JET then every man and his dog knew about him. JET's agent approached SOD so his signing had nothing to do with Burt directly. Osbournes played one decent game at RB. The best bit of business Burt has done was to Get Chris Forrester over here on trial. Weather we sign him or not remains to be seen. bit harsh seeing he's been injured. I thought he did well at the beginning of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Keith Burt is suppose to be the constant in the management team to provide the consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_s Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 JET was a SOD signing. He's done ok I suppose. Agreed. Sorry, but I thought the poster who I was replying to was implying that signings were made without SOD knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Agreed. Sorry, but I thought the poster who I was replying to was implying that signings were made without SOD knowledge. That's just another red herring to make SOD's rein appear better than it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Agreed. Sorry, but I thought the poster who I was replying to was implying that signings were made without SOD knowledge. Not without SODs knowledge but the likes of Flint, Wagstaff, Wynter were all Burt's recommendations. Whereas the JET deal came about due to SOD. No red herrings there, just the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Not without SODs knowledge but the likes of Flint, Wagstaff, Wynter were all Burt's recommendations. Whereas the JET deal came about due to SOD. No red herrings there, just the facts. What about our most consistent player this season, Derrick Williams, which category does he come in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 What about our most consistent player this season, Derrick Williams, which category does he come in? Burt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Don't get the Wagstaff bashing at times. He's fairly unspectacular but as essentially Anderson's replacement he hasn't done that badly in comparison to how Anderson did. Hasn't been a terrible signing and scored a few goals. We haven't played genuine width yet so would like to see him as a proper winger for a few games before writing him off totally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 You may well be right but I hope not. If that's all he does it's really just a part-time admin job. I hope that he adds something more. We've been led to believe he has a lot of contacts / knowledge of suitable players. If so he should be suggesting some players to Cotts. Of course this will only work if he's on the same wavelength as Cotts and knows the type of player he wants. If not there will be some very short conversations Burt's job will be mainly about finding players for the long term. Players who will be good for the team in 2, 3, 4 years time. Players like Wynter and Williams, who will hopefully be allied to youth products in a future side. Cotterill will identify short term targets that he needs to fix things right now. As I've said before, the trick will be in transitioning smoothly from one to the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Burt's job will be mainly about finding players for the long term. Players who will be good for the team in 2, 3, 4 years time. Players like Wynter and Williams, who will hopefully be allied to youth products in a future side. Cotterill will identify short term targets that he needs to fix things right now. As I've said before, the trick will be in transitioning smoothly from one to the other. I'd have to disagree with this. Burt's job is to find players for the NOW as well as the long term. Yes, of course Cotterill will have his own view and his own network and will bring in what he wants, but that doesn't put aside any work that Burt has already done in recruiting players for January. Burt and his team of scouts will have already been watching many players through the season so far, and if they have someone they are very keen on this will no doubt be put to the new manager. For me, Burt has been very restricted in his dealings so far due to the wage restrictions. Once Fonts, Killa, Marv, Taylor, Wilson & Pearson are off the wage bill then he has a bit more freedom in his recruitment. So far, just as many do when they enter a new club, Burt has had to rely on his old network of contacts - hence the proliferation of Forest players. The Scouting Network at BCFC prior to his arrival was non-existent, so he's had to work from what he already knows. Now that he's been able to put together a team of scouts I've no doubt there are plenty of players being actively watched. I will judge Burt's dealings after the Summer 2014 window, when he will have to put the trust in the scouting network he has assembled rather than just his own knowledge. So far, Williams has been a good find. Pack a known lower league talent worth a gamble. Wynter needs to prove himself. Wagstaff a known league 1 grafter. Flint ridiculously overpriced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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