Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Kilkenny and Hunt are on a different level of failure compared to the likes of Shorey etc. Kilkenny was beyond abysmal for us. Who said this back in june? "Now Neil Kilkenny has largely disappointed us since signing from Leeds, however, there is ONE reason why he will be important for us in league 1......He can pass a football. Watching the league 1 playoffs I was really interested to see the quality of football among the top sides within that league, where I expected to see teams full of confidence playing relatively good, lower championship quality football.....And I was right to an extent, there were teams full of confidence......however, none of them seemingly knew how to play "football", in fact, I was really surprised at just how poor the quality of football was, as no-one could pass a football, with only Yeovil looking OK on the ball. Now, for all his pointing, and all the negativity surrounding him, there is NO DOUBT that Kilkenny can pass a football, and he can dictate play in a midfield 5, something he has shown, all be it not often enough, for us so far. I think he will be vital for us this season. In what seems a much lower quality of football I think we will see the best of him, especially considering Wynter has grown up within the Arsenal set up so can hopefully pass a football too. With their being dead wood in our squad (Elliott, Pearson etc), I for one really think that Kilkenny could prove to be a good asset for us this season". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Who said this back in june? "Now Neil Kilkenny has largely disappointed us since signing from Leeds, however, there is ONE reason why he will be important for us in league 1......He can pass a football. Watching the league 1 playoffs I was really interested to see the quality of football among the top sides within that league, where I expected to see teams full of confidence playing relatively good, lower championship quality football.....And I was right to an extent, there were teams full of confidence......however, none of them seemingly knew how to play "football", in fact, I was really surprised at just how poor the quality of football was, as no-one could pass a football, with only Yeovil looking OK on the ball. Now, for all his pointing, and all the negativity surrounding him, there is NO DOUBT that Kilkenny can pass a football, and he can dictate play in a midfield 5, something he has shown, all be it not often enough, for us so far. I think he will be vital for us this season. In what seems a much lower quality of football I think we will see the best of him, especially considering Wynter has grown up within the Arsenal set up so can hopefully pass a football too. With their being dead wood in our squad (Elliott, Pearson etc), I for one really think that Kilkenny could prove to be a good asset for us this season". I don't know who said it but, given he's now playing regularly for a team that have surged into the play-offs since he signed, whoever said it certainly wasn't daft. Like Skuse and Bolasie before him, he's not shown a lot for us but nonetheless seems to be having the last laugh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 I don't know who said it but, given he's now playing regularly for a team that have surged into the play-offs since he signed, whoever said it certainly wasn't daft. Like Skuse and Bolasie before him, he's not shown a lot for us but nonetheless seems to be having the last laugh... As I said before the same thing happened at Leeds until they suffered a slump, be interesting to see what happens if Preston suffer a slump. Bolaisie wasn't given a proper chance and Skuse had been treading water for 2/3 seasons. PS:- it was someone who now says he was way beyond abysmal for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corleone Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Who said this back in june? "Now Neil Kilkenny has largely disappointed us since signing from Leeds, however, there is ONE reason why he will be important for us in league 1......He can pass a football. Watching the league 1 playoffs I was really interested to see the quality of football among the top sides within that league, where I expected to see teams full of confidence playing relatively good, lower championship quality football.....And I was right to an extent, there were teams full of confidence......however, none of them seemingly knew how to play "football", in fact, I was really surprised at just how poor the quality of football was, as no-one could pass a football, with only Yeovil looking OK on the ball. Now, for all his pointing, and all the negativity surrounding him, there is NO DOUBT that Kilkenny can pass a football, and he can dictate play in a midfield 5, something he has shown, all be it not often enough, for us so far. I think he will be vital for us this season. In what seems a much lower quality of football I think we will see the best of him, especially considering Wynter has grown up within the Arsenal set up so can hopefully pass a football too. With their being dead wood in our squad (Elliott, Pearson etc), I for one really think that Kilkenny could prove to be a good asset for us this season". Wow you must of spent ages searching for that. I gave him a chance at start of season....he blew it. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Wow you must of spent ages searching for that. I gave him a chance at start of season....he blew it. Simple. Congrats, you have a stalker ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Wow you must of spent ages searching for that. I gave him a chance at start of season....he blew it. Simple. Found it completely by accident looking for something else, the internet eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Best move for all parties, good luck to him. No hard feelings from me. A decent player at Leeds and for whatever reason we just couldn't get the best out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Interesting to see Preston's fans views on him. For the record, these are not views I hold! He has been a breath of fresh air in our midfield. We've lacked a midfielder who can play a first time pass for a season or two now, and they are crucial to playing counter attacking football as we do away from home. I've been quietly impressed with what i've seen of kilkenny so far. He always ALWAYS wants the ball (you frequently see him dropping deep to get it off the CBs) and has an impressive range of passing once he has it. He offers a completely different skillset to Welsh and Keane and as, hopefully, Brownhill continues to develop, we should have a pool of central midfielders to suit most formations and situations. +1. It's a bit like chess - seeing two, three, or more moves ahead. That's great as long as he has players around him who are on the same page; it would appear that he has right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Sorry mate, not having James in that list People forget the two penalty saves away at Reading then? Good or bad at times but at least he made a difference not like Hunt or Harewood. Sorry, Swede, you got me wrong there. I was putting the four suggested in order. I categorically would not put David James in a list of our worst players ever. I completely agree with you. People forget he had, probably, the worst defence we've had in decades in front of him. He was probably saving more shots that at any other point in his career. He got far too much stick for my liking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Kilkenny can play like Andrea Pirlo for the rest of his career, he still underperformed massively here, not blaming him directly for our relegation and poor seasons but has been at the hub of the midfield that has severely been nothing next to shit for 3 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider-manc Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Interesting to see Preston's fans views on him. For the record, these are not views I hold! He has been a breath of fresh air in our midfield. We've lacked a midfielder who can play a first time pass for a season or two now, and they are crucial to playing counter attacking football as we do away from home. I've been quietly impressed with what i've seen of kilkenny so far. He always ALWAYS wants the ball (you frequently see him dropping deep to get it off the CBs) and has an impressive range of passing once he has it. He offers a completely different skillset to Welsh and Keane and as, hopefully, Brownhill continues to develop, we should have a pool of central midfielders to suit most formations and situations. +1. It's a bit like chess - seeing two, three, or more moves ahead. That's great as long as he has players around him who are on the same page; it would appear that he has right now. To be honest this is how I always felt about him - That if we had a good team around him it might of worked out. However we didn't and he never looked up for the fight and got worse the more the crowd got at him for it. Nothing personal against the guy, It didn't work out and a move was best all round for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 But wasn't he a player picked out by SOD as a player who was going to define our season, oh well SOD got that one right. Did he actually say that? If he did that was a bit of a faux pax without doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Sorry mate, not having James in that list People forget the two penalty saves away at Reading then? Good or bad at times but at least he made a difference not like Hunt or Harewood. But James disappointed so as expectations of him were so high. The club wanted a name signing to excite people, but what we got was a player who was clearly over-the-hill and to some extent going through the motions, failing to hold simple catches sometimes. And of course he was on more money than everyone else. So, yep, in terms of disappointments I think he ranks above Kilkenny as somuch more was expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 The thing with Kilkenny is that he could have been a real hero or us. He was a senior pro and could have commanded the midfield if he wanted to apply himself. Instead he wandered around pointing and moaning. He let us down, and himself too. I guess he is lucky Preston have taken the chance on him, and so far it seems he is paying back their commitment. Obviously his days were numbered here and he needed a contract elsewhere. Not a player I would rise out of my seat and applaud if he ever returns to the Gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 The thing with Kilkenny is that he could have been a real hero or us. He was a senior pro and could have commanded the midfield if he wanted to apply himself. Instead he wandered around pointing and moaning. He let us down, and himself too. I guess he is lucky Preston have taken the chance on him, and so far it seems he is paying back their commitment. Obviously his days were numbered here and he needed a contract elsewhere. Not a player I would rise out of my seat and applaud if he ever returns to the Gate. I think this is the trick; I don't wish him ill, but I can't absolve him of his role as a senior pro during a time where we needed them to stand up, and thus if any Preston fans were on here looking for opinions, I'd have no qualms in saying he was very poor for us. He spoke on arrival at wanting a team built around him, and was a full international, so the timidity of his performances, and seeming lack of interest meant he was an abject disappointment. And an expensive one. At Preston, he's playing under the same manager with whom her shared great success, and I've little doubt Grayson will get more out of him than any of our bosses did. But, regardless of circumstances, he wasn't a good player for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Probably the worst player in the context of everything since I've been watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheshire_red Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 What do Preston see in him that we don't ?! Grayson managed him at Leeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Grayson managed him at Leeds Good point, presumably it wasn't Grayson that sold him to us then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider_dog Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 NK utter crap. Bye Neil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheshire_red Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 I'm pretty sure he was out of contract. Was offered a new one by Leeds but decided to sign for City. Did think it strange at the time unless we offered more than they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Probably the worst player in the context of everything since I've been watching. Which is how long? I've been watching for 25 years and could name 30 players worse I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Which is how long? I've been watching for 25 years and could name 30 players worse I reckon. Only 10 years so don't doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Probably the worst player in the context of everything since I've been watching. Hunt was pretty rotten too. It's a close call for worst in the last 10 years between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hortonred Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Good riddance! Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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