Barrs Court Red Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 I see on twitter that the long arm of the FA have reached deep down, and collared Mangotsfield. The club have a small band of very loyal and noisy supporters nickenamed the Inter Village Firm. Utterly harmless stuff. Following a smoke bomb in December, and a flag displaying an anti facism motif Mangotsfield have had tochange their ground rules, to prohibit pyros and the display of political banners. Now I know the argument of smoke bombs has been had on here many times, but the FA are actually monitoring Twitter accounts of non league fans, in a league where there is no specific legislation controlling pyros (on conference and higher are affected by specific legislation). What does more damage, a premier league manager clearly swearing at his opposite number watched live on TV by millions, or a harmless group waving a flag infront of 20 people and a couple of cows. If you work for the FA, the answer might not be as straight forward as you would think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride of the west Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 All depends on the flag to be fair. What was on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNBT Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Won't be long & the FA will start to fine clubs for supporters publicly saying negative things on social networks, Football Association more like it stands for F in A holes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 I see on twitter that the long arm of the FA have reached deep down, and collared Mangotsfield. The club have a small band of very loyal and noisy supporters nickenamed the Inter Village Firm. Utterly harmless stuff. Following a smoke bomb in December, and a flag displaying an anti facism motif Mangotsfield have had tochange their ground rules, to prohibit pyros and the display of political banners. Now I know the argument of smoke bombs has been had on here many times, but the FA are actually monitoring Twitter accounts of non league fans, in a league where there is no specific legislation controlling pyros (on conference and higher are affected by specific legislation). What does more damage, a premier league manager clearly swearing at his opposite number watched live on TV by millions, or a harmless group waving a flag infront of 20 people and a couple of cows. If you work for the FA, the answer might not be as straight forward as you would think! Whenever I hear tales like this, where the FA want all clubs at all levels to abide by the same rules, I wonder what would happen if a village team asked the FA if they could have goal line technology installed, for example. I appreciate there is much more at stake in the Prem, but the FA only want equal rules for all when it suits them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTMS Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Look out, the signs are there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real_bristol Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 On the subject of flares, how do the Italians get away with it looks brilliant on the telly. Can we not have sections of the ground that are flare free? I think it creates atmosphere, which is rare anyway in the modern game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 What does more damage, a premier league manager clearly swearing at his opposite number watched live on TV by millions, or a harmless group waving a flag infront of 20 people and a couple of cows. If you work for the FA, the answer might not be as straight forward as you would think! WILL NO ONE THINK OF THE COWS!! Seriously, you're dead right. Just one more turn on the screw of repression in this sad country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 According to OP anti fascism is harmless. Well well well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted January 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 According to OP anti fascism is harmless. Well well well personally politics in football pisses me off, but for an organisation such as the FA to decide what is and isn't allowed is troubling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Whenever I hear tales like this, where the FA want all clubs at all levels to abide by the same rules, I wonder what would happen if a village team asked the FA if they could have goal line technology installed, for example. I appreciate there is much more at stake in the Prem, but the FA only want equal rules for all when it suits them. Pretty sure the clubs pay for the goal line technology? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i hate you butler Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Look out, the signs are there that ground looks familiar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted January 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Get over yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted January 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Great, so using the most extreme example possible about a utterly different country in an utterly different context is a worthile input? Go have a lie down, clearly waving the freedom flag has tired you out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted January 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 And you actually believe that a flares are potentially less harmful than a flare in a crowd being let off by some kid as opposed to a 'insult' from on manager to another do you? Poor souls that can lip read must be really scarred. I'd have a read of my post, you'd possibly look slightly less silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted January 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Well yes it is, especially when this country is used an example of being repressive. It is therefore worthwhile reminding what indeed repression is. And as far as using any type of dangerous item that could kill or maim in a stadium is sheer madness, that is why the FA have to look beyond the bigger clubs only, all clubs have to abide by the rules. I can't really get my head around why some think especially in the light of what has happened recently and in the past that these things are OK in a stadium...Crazy. What's happened recently and in the past? You're making it up as you go along! But anyway, its not the point. The fact that such a shambolic organisation finds the time or resource to investigate southern league fans groups perhaps points to why there is a shocking level of youth coaches, or why everything the FA does is half arsed and poorly implemented. The priorities are all wrong in what is a sport, and at that level certainly not something to be taken seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Do The Dziekanowski Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Well yes it is, especially when this country is used an example of being repressive. It is therefore worthwhile reminding what indeed repression is. And as far as using any type of dangerous item that could kill or maim in a stadium is sheer madness, that is why the FA have to look beyond the bigger clubs only, all clubs have to abide by the rules. I can't really get my head around why some think especially in the light of what has happened recently and in the past that these things are OK in a stadium...Crazy. ....... He said Smoke Bomb, In certain sections or have a stand designated it should do no harm, As it's smoke, Doesn't give off heat and if they were allowed they should have a place to put the cannister after using it........ Note: I said Smoke bombs, So if you reply don't change it to flares which are more dangerous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodburyred Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I see on twitter that the long arm of the FA have reached deep down, and collared Mangotsfield.The club have a small band of very loyal and noisy supporters nickenamed the Inter Village Firm. Utterly harmless stuff. Following a smoke bomb in December, and a flag displaying an anti facism motif Mangotsfield have had tochange their ground rules, to prohibit pyros and the display of political banners. Now I know the argument of smoke bombs has been had on here many times, but the FA are actually monitoring Twitter accounts of non league fans, in a league where there is no specific legislation controlling pyros (on conference and higher are affected by specific legislation). What does more damage, a premier league manager clearly swearing at his opposite number watched live on TV by millions, or a harmless group waving a flag infront of 20 people and a couple of cows. If you work for the FA, the answer might not be as straight forward as you would think! It's curious how at least one or two of them are from Yate. Technically Mangotsfields main rival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyRed Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 ....... He said Smoke Bomb, In certain sections or have a stand designated it should do no harm, As it's smoke, Doesn't give off heat and if they were allowed they should have a place to put the cannister after using it........ Note: I said Smoke bombs, So if you reply don't change it to flares which are more dangerous I have no wish to get involved with this argument, and this will be my only post. In your support of 'harmless' smoke bombs, as opposed to flares, have you not considered people in the crowd who are asthmatics or have other serious lung or breathing problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Porter Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I have no wish to get involved with this argument, and this will be my only post. In your support of 'harmless' smoke bombs, as opposed to flares, have you not considered people in the crowd who are asthmatics or have other serious lung or breathing problems? I also do not wish to get involved with this, but as per the quoted post here, you could also add to that the need to take the players on and off the pitch due to visibilty and I doubt the fans will see much if you have a whole dedicated area for smoke bombs people will no doubt go OTT and there will be smoke billowing for days ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmosUK Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I set off some fireworks when we played one of our league rivals last season..... FA tried to discipline me... Bearing in mind our reserve team play at the downs. But when our changing rooms (Which we pay the council and league to look after) get broken into and numerous items of kit clothing and mobile phone/money get nicked. They say its not prudent for them to have a representative keep an eye on the changing rooms whilst games are taking place. Same old FA...... Screwing the little clubs over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Won't be long & the FA will start to fine clubs for supporters publicly saying negative things on social networks, Football Association more like it stands for F in A holes That'll be Otib plucked then ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFiGO!?! Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 The FA don't have their hands of their cocks long enough to retrospectively punish blatent cheating with a points deduction or legislate the choice to stand, yes stand, whilst at a football match. What is it with clowns in positions of authority and this country? Bankers, bonuses and the econonomy also springs to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Do The Dziekanowski Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I have no wish to get involved with this argument, and this will be my only post. In your support of 'harmless' smoke bombs, as opposed to flares, have you not considered people in the crowd who are asthmatics or have other serious lung or breathing problems? Yes very true, But if you buy a match ticket in the section or near the section where they would be used as I also said that is mainly your fault Against Bradford and Sheff Utd even in the Eastend the smoke didn't get to me and I have asthma, Whereas at Cardiff in the pub I was wheezing on the way out So in an area designated for smoke bombs to be used I feel they are safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Do The Dziekanowski Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I also do not wish to get involved with this, but as per the quoted post here, you could also add to that the need to take the players on and off the pitch due to visibilty and I doubt the fans will see much if you have a whole dedicated area for smoke bombs people will no doubt go OTT and there will be smoke billowing for days ! Then they have a limit for the amount of smoke bombs allowed in the designated area, Simple enough to sort out, Say 10 for a match and only 3 to be used at once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Look out, the signs are there If that sign had been there in the 70s nobody would have been allowed in without taking their trousers off first. Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Repression in this sad country? How daft can you get, repression is N Korea, China and similar, odd that despite this you might have us believe that Communism is a champion of the people? Well you must do if you think we are repressed in this Country of ours that you can type such in your cosy house in Suburban Bristol, vote in Elections knowing that you might not be shot at the Polling station, or if you are not your vote will not be tampered with, or perhaps you might live somewhere where there is no Democracy and no elections, these places are the true repressive states NOT UK chap. Get a grip. Are you completely off your trolley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippy273 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 On the subject of flares, how do the Italians get away with it looks brilliant on the telly. Can we not have sections of the ground that are flare free? I think it creates atmosphere, which is rare anyway in the modern game Italian football is nowhere near as enforced as it should be, racism hasn't even been dealt with yet. RedDave in "Bloody hell, I've learnt something this week" shocker! There's hope for you yet son. Just stop hanging around upper-middle class wide-boys like RR mate..... Good lord, there IS hope for Di Canio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Look out, the signs are there Fair 'nuff. But are Oxford Bags and Monkey Boots also prohibited? I've no doubt that sarongs and man-bags are positively encouraged. Modern football ! The Fashion Police - what next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 http://casualsunited.wordpress.com/2014/01/12/cretins-of-the-week-mangotsfield-inter-village-firm-edl-bristol/ Noticed this on Facebook last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFiGO!?! Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 ten minutes of rough, you're comparing North Korea and China with us. The fact we don't have the choice to smoke in a pub, stand at the football or watch unscrurinised porn is repressive. Doesn't mean you need to bring Hitler, Stalin or the Apartied into it. We're just having a conversation. Notice you didn't get back to me when I pointed out to you that Bristol football is not backward due to local rivalry, the other day. Makes Arsenal-Tottenham etc pretty inexplicable? Anything to say on that? Think you said we had a small mind mentality. There's a poster called redeye that you remind me of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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