Welcome To The Jungle Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 City 3-1 Rotherham starting line up Basso: Woking Orr: Newcastle Carey: Academy McCombe: Lincoln McAllister: Hearts Betsy: Wycombe Russell: Torquay Johnson: Hearts Wilson: Cheltenham Showunmi: Luton Noble: Boston 1 player from a higher league, most from league 2 and non-league City 0-1 Hull Basso: Woking Orr: Newcastle Carey: Academy Fontaine: Fulham McAllister: Hearts Elliott: Millwall Carle: Turkish team I can't spell McIndoe: Wolves Noble: Boston Adebola: Coventry Trundle: Swansea 2 players from a higher league, 2 from the championship, rest lower league or abroad Last nights team Moore: Cardiff Cunnigham: Man City Flint: Swindon El Abd: Brighton Williams: Aston Villa Wagstaff: Charlton Bryan: Academy JET: Ipswich Gillett: Forest Elliott: Millwall Baldock: West Ham 9 from a higher league, 1 league 1, 1 academy For me this is telling. Our squad is built of players that are not good enough to play for other teams above. You could argue that maybe Williams may grow as he's very young, but our last 2 good teams were built on League 2 and non-league talent. And the 2 players who did come from a higher league were Orr, who had to move to right back to become the player he was, and Fontaine who is not the best. This may be where we have gone wrong, even our best two players between 2008 and now were Albert and Maynard, both signed from lower leagues. It's time to look down, not up, because it's raining shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 This may be where we have gone wrong, even our best two players between 2008 and now were Albert and Maynard, both signed from lower leagues. It's time to look down, not up, because it's raining shite. This is absoloutely where we have gone wrong. I have posted on a thread previous to this, that this club needs to change it's mentality of not scouting the lower leagues. We need to be looking as low down as the souther premier league in my opinion, after all the likes of Albert and Caulker were playing Sunday league football before making it in the professional game! There are gems out there, we as a club just seem to have this big headed attitude that we don't need to look for them as we can pick up players from higher league clubs whose careers are in decline (El Abd and Fielding - just two examples?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 As we plummet gracefully down the league system we will inevitably have players from the lower echelons coming on board . There,your problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 5, 2014 Admin Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 City 3-1 Rotherham starting line up Basso: Woking Orr: Newcastle Carey: Academy McCombe: Lincoln McAllister: Hearts Betsy: Wycombe Russell: Torquay Johnson: Hearts Wilson: Cheltenham Showunmi: Luton Noble: Boston 1 player from a higher league, most from league 2 and non-league Who is from the higher league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrizzleRed Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 City 3-1 Rotherham starting line up Basso: Woking Orr: Newcastle Carey: Academy McCombe: Lincoln McAllister: Hearts Betsy: Wycombe Russell: Torquay Johnson: Hearts Wilson: Cheltenham Showunmi: Luton Noble: Boston 1 player from a higher league, most from league 2 and non-league City 0-1 Hull Basso: Woking Orr: Newcastle Carey: Academy Fontaine: Fulham McAllister: Hearts Elliott: Millwall Carle: Turkish team I can't spell McIndoe: Wolves Noble: Boston Adebola: Coventry Trundle: Swansea 2 players from a higher league, 2 from the championship, rest lower league or abroad Last nights team Moore: Cardiff Cunnigham: Man City Flint: Swindon El Abd: Brighton Williams: Aston Villa Wagstaff: Charlton Bryan: Academy JET: Ipswich Gillett: Forest Elliott: Millwall Baldock: West Ham 9 from a higher league, 1 league 1, 1 academy For me this is telling. Our squad is built of players that are not good enough to play for other teams above. You could argue that maybe Williams may grow as he's very young, but our last 2 good teams were built on League 2 and non-league talent. And the 2 players who did come from a higher league were Orr, who had to move to right back to become the player he was, and Fontaine who is not the best. This may be where we have gone wrong, even our best two players between 2008 and now were Albert and Maynard, both signed from lower leagues. It's time to look down, not up, because it's raining shite. Certainly wouldn't argue with your analysis there, but with the speed we're plummeting, we're going to have to look a hell of a way long way down to get players who aren't currently playing at levels above us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxford Red Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Player for player our current team is better than the side that played Rotherham. That's the frustrating part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Who is from the higher league? Bradley Orr came from newcastle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Who is from the higher league? Bradley Orr came from newcastle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Certainly wouldn't argue with your analysis there, but with the speed we're plummeting, we're going to have to look a hell of a way long way down to get players who aren't currently playing at levels above us! I'm wondering if we'd do better with a Downs League dream team. I.e. the very best eleven selected from all the Downs League players and other Bristol League players. They'd almost certainly all be Bristolian and would play with the passion missing from our current team of losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westred1 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Bradley Orr came from newcastle Luton were also higher - they were in the Championship when Showunmi signed. They'd beaten us 5-0 the previous season, got promoted and Enoch scored against us in that match! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 5, 2014 Admin Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Glad it wasn't just me who thought that Lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted February 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Luton were also higher - they were in the Championship when Showunmi signed. They'd beaten us 5-0 the previous season, got promoted and Enoch scored against us in that match! So they were, as their non-league now you forget, I'll edit as such Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 City 3-1 Rotherham starting line up Basso: Woking Orr: Newcastle Carey: Academy McCombe: Lincoln McAllister: Hearts Betsy: Wycombe Russell: Torquay Johnson: Hearts Wilson: Cheltenham Showunmi: Luton Noble: Boston 1 player from a higher league, most from league 2 and non-league City 0-1 Hull Basso: Woking Orr: Newcastle Carey: Academy Fontaine: Fulham McAllister: Hearts Elliott: Millwall Carle: Turkish team I can't spell McIndoe: Wolves Noble: Boston Adebola: Coventry Trundle: Swansea 2 players from a higher league, 2 from the championship, rest lower league or abroad Last nights team Moore: Cardiff Cunnigham: Man City Flint: Swindon El Abd: Brighton Williams: Aston Villa Wagstaff: Charlton Bryan: Academy JET: Ipswich Gillett: Forest Elliott: Millwall Baldock: West Ham 9 from a higher league, 1 league 1, 1 academy For me this is telling. Our squad is built of players that are not good enough to play for other teams above. You could argue that maybe Williams may grow as he's very young, but our last 2 good teams were built on League 2 and non-league talent. And the 2 players who did come from a higher league were Orr, who had to move to right back to become the player he was, and Fontaine who is not the best. This may be where we have gone wrong, even our best two players between 2008 and now were Albert and Maynard, both signed from lower leagues. It's time to look down, not up, because it's raining shite. The other telling factor is that the first two teams were managed by a man who had to ability to get more out of a team than the sum of its parts. He could get 11 individuals playing as a proper team. The last and all recent teams have been managed by men with the ability to get less out of as team than the sum of its parts. They could get a group of 11 individuals playing like 11 individuals who had never even met each other. As Joni Mitchell once said "you don't know what you've got till it's gone". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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