RedBrizzleRobin Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 .... I think some hard and difficult questions need to be asked of this board who are currently overseeing us to our lowest finish since 1982! 32 YEARS! At least we had an excuse last time..... but this?! They've been unable to arrest our 5 year slide, with no mention of how they plan to stop it. They've tried to build a team that has, once again, been poorly invested in and we all knew we had to cut back but have cut back too much at once. I'm not saying the board should step down but they need to prove to us fans they know what they are doing and how they are going to 'fix' us. If not, I'd rather they Foxtrot Oscar. What is happening right now is UNACCEPTABLE and currently it seems, no idea how to turn it around. How we have come down from the championship with a squad not even competitive in league one is atrocious. It really smacks of total mismanagement. I think as fans we need to put some pressure on the board when this season is done because to be fair, considering what we've been through they've had a pretty easy ride. This can't continue, because either this season or next, we'll be in league two. As a fan base so far we've just stood from the sides just watching it happen. People say we have can have onc of the most passionate fans sometimes but we also have some of the most placid. Once this season is done something needs to be changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kevinmabbuttshair Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Hmmm. 32 years buy hey ho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBrizzleRobin Posted February 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Hmmm. 32 years buy hey ho fixed ty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 .... I think some hard and difficult questions need to be asked of this board who are currently overseeing us to our lowest finish since 1982! 32 YEARS! At least we had an excuse last time..... but this?! They've been unable to arrest our 5 year slide, with no mention of how they plan to stop it. They've tried to build a team that has, once again, been poorly invested in and we all knew we had to cut back but have cut back too much at once. I'm not saying the board should step down but they need to prove to us fans they know what they are doing and how they are going to 'fix' us. If not, I'd rather they Foxtrot Oscar. What is happening right now is UNACCEPTABLE and currently it seems, no idea how to turn it around. How we have come down from the championship with a squad not even competitive in league one is atrocious. It really smacks of total mismanagement. I think as fans we need to put some pressure on the board when this season is done because to be fair, considering what we've been through they've had a pretty easy ride. This can't continue, because either this season or next, we'll be in league two. As a fan base so far we've just stood from the sides just watching it happen. People say we have can have once of the most passionate fans sometimes but we also have some of the most placid. Once this season is done something needs to be changed. When you say put pressure on the board, I assume you mean some form of protest? Why wait until the end of the season though? If you feel that strongly, do it now. Shit or get off the pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RedBrizzleRobin Posted February 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 When you say put pressure on the board, I assume you mean some form of protest? Why wait until the end of the season though? If you feel that strongly, do it now. Shit or get off the pot. Never said protest, I said questions need to be asked and I did say at the end of the season as well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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glynriley Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Never said protest, I said questions need to be asked and I did say at the end of the season as well.... So where do you propose to ask these questions? At one of the Q&A's? What will you ask? Because obviously the last couple have not produced the answers you're after. Sitting on hands and asking questions won't get a lot done IMO, but best of luck with it anyway, let us know how you get on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBrizzleRobin Posted February 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 "We have cut back too much at once." Might want to redress that. from 144% to 60% in two seasons, thats a pretty severe cut. It cost us our championship status and could cost us our league one status. Sure we had to in league one but we were very conservative with our wages to begin with down here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBrizzleRobin Posted February 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 So where do you propose to ask these questions? At one of the Q&A's? What will you ask? Because obviously the last couple have not produced the answers you're after. Sitting on hands and asking questions won't get a lot done IMO, but best of luck with it anyway, let us know how you get on. I will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RedBrizzleRobin Posted February 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 The championship wouldn't have been so bad as it would have a gradual decrease, but we are paying the price for overspending and poor investment in players. I can't argue with Baldock, he's been a decent acquisition, davies was so so. The problem with McInnes was spending that 1.5 Million on strikers when just Baldock would have done then spent the rest on other areas of the squad. Tbf to him Baldock, Cunningham and Kelly have been decent players for us. Still think it was a mistake letting McInnes go. We shouldn't be looking at league two with our wage budget though, this is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RodViler Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 When you say put pressure on the board, I assume you mean some form of protest? Why wait until the end of the season though? If you feel that strongly, do it now. Shit or get off the pot. Shit or get off the pot? That's about the sum of it with a lot of OTIB posters, they talk the former and smoke too much of the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoingUp Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 The problem is three of that team are loanees while Osbourne and El Abd have only recently joined us and it takes a while to get a team together. We were just starting to get going under SOD's team when he was given the boot.. Granted,but we've had Maloney,marv,wagstaff all experienced championship players and when you throw in Reid,Burns and Bryan who are all good young players this squad has massively underachieved.I totally agree with what you say about SOD and it was nonsensical to bring in a manager with polar opposite views as to how the game should be played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Eco Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 . Granted,but we've had Maloney,marv,wagstaff all experienced championship players and when you throw in Reid,Burns and Bryan who are all good young players this squad has massively underachieved.I totally agree with what you say about SOD and it was nonsensical to bring in a manager with polar opposite views as to how the game should be played. They were experienced but not necessarily in the upper echelons of the Championship, Mav apart in 07/08 ! God knows why we've underachieved, there must be something behind the scenes which we're not party to, probably due to money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider red Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 The fact that we invested 300k in aiden flint shows that the board haven't really learned their lesson. Mind you i don't know what wages he's on as transfer fee doesn't count towards our scmp or whatever percentage. We got keith burt in to help us find young talented players and develop a network, and at the start of the season it was looking really promising, players like winter started really well. For whatever reason its all gone pete tong, i don't blame the board entirely the managers they have appointed have all done well elsewhere, we seem to be spiralling out of control with no way to stop. IF we go down this season i think we will end up just as shite as rovers, but with a 27 thousand seater stadium! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Shit or get off the pot? That's about the sum of it with a lot of OTIB posters, they talk the former and smoke too much of the latter. The problem is in the fact that if we're relegated again we maybe looking at sub 6,000 home attendances for the first time in over 30 years. It's the supporters that don't post on OTIB that also matter - 80% of the support? What must they be thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodViler Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 The problem is in the fact that if we're relegated again we maybe looking at sub 6,000 home attendances for the first time in over 30 years. It's the supporters that don't post on OTIB that also matter - 80% of the support? What must they be thinking? Indeed. I trust they, as a lot of us, will continue to support the club. That's what all genuine football fans do, as opposed to the fair-weather tosh that passes for support on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 We have spent far too much money and are in a ridiculous financial predicament....and when the hell is this club going to invest in some really top players. We should set ourselves up as a team that is hard to beat...and go all out to score goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AshtonGreat Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 . Granted,but we've had Maloney,marv,wagstaff all experienced championship players and when you throw in Reid,Burns and Bryan who are all good young players this squad has massively underachieved.I totally agree with what you say about SOD and it was nonsensical to bring in a manager with polar opposite views as to how the game should be played. No, SOD had to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 No, SOD had to go That wasn't his point. Whether O'Driscoll had to go or not, it was madness to replace him by a manager with a completely different football philosophy, and to do so in mid-season a couple of places above the drop. And, no, I'm not knocking Cotterill; making the change the other way round would have been equally foolish. If there was ever a fit target for "You don't know what you're doing", it's the BCFC board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Frenchay Red Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 That wasn't his point. Whether O'Driscoll had to go or not, it was madness to replace him by a manager with a completely different football philosophy, and to do so in mid-season a couple of places above the drop. And, no, I'm not knocking Cotterill; making the change the other way round would have been equally foolish. If there was ever a fit target for "You don't know what you're doing", it's the BCFC board. We were actually 22nd when he was sacked. IMO he had to go, whatever he was trying to achieve just wasn't happening. Whether the new incumbent can keep us up is an on-going question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 We were actually 22nd when he was sacked. IMO he had to go, whatever he was trying to achieve just wasn't happening. Whether the new incumbent can keep us up is an on-going question. Yes, two places above bottom which, of course, is what I meant. And, even if he did have to go (which I'm not commenting on) why not replace him with a manager* with a similar style of football? If Arsene Wenger was to get the chop, which might happen, would it make sense to replace him with Sam Allardyce? * Even if he wasn't a personal friend of the chairman... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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