Super Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 ....in your opinion.... of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 I personally thought he was good technically, he just has the wrong body. Bit like Crouch really. He had a good footballing brain for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decent Bantam10 Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 Stead will get a good reception I hope. one thing is for sure he tries and never gives up a very good player overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forza Revolution Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 Ill clap him after the game (if we win) not before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 He was a clever player. Held the all up very well, probably on a par with Wilbraham. His touches were clever and harassed and harried defenders and chased seemingly list balls. He didn't have pace or step overs, which some will never see past, but he was undoubtedly one of our best during his time here. Embodies all that is wrong with English football? Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 He was a clever player. Held the all up very well, probably on a par with Wilbraham. His touches were clever and harassed and harried defenders and chased seemingly list balls. He didn't have pace or step overs, which some will never see past, but he was undoubtedly one of our best during his time here. Embodies all that is wrong with English football? Ridiculous. Not really ridiculous though is it? As I said....we are a nation who celebrates average and players who "work hard and never stops running". As a proffesional athelete....they should be doing that anyway. Always makes me cringe when the crowd cheers and claps a player for tear assing round like a headless chicken for a few seconds to close a keeper or defender down. He was a likeable guy.....great to follow on twitter and that. However as a football player.....his all round game and his contribution, was poor. He was made to look better then he was by the fact he was in an extremely poor team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rizzle Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 But his popularity shouldn't cloud the fact that he has made a career out of being a nice guy who runs for lost causes. That's my point. I liked Steady, he's a really good bloke and his attitude never wavered. I agree. But my point is far bigger than any individual footballer. It's about the English game generally where technique and flair is ignored and physicality overemphasised at the very bottom. Blokes doing an impression of a youth coach taking their understanding of football from that engrained notion that high-tempo, all guns blazing football is how the game should be played. Where charging down a keeper is more important than marking the options restricting that keeper from playing a worthwhile forward pass because marking someone doesn't give the appearance of 'doing something' or 'affecting the game'. Where thumping balls into the channels is encouraged because the striker is a bit nippy and will probably get there first a couple of times. Where coaches teach horrible phrases like 'if in doubt kick it out' discouraging any form of enterprise or creativity in our kids. That's the issue and that's why he embodies many things that are wrong with the game. It's a wider criticism and it's not about Jon Stead personally either. He's a good egg and if I was going to the Bradford game would be getting a round of applause from me. But, the point still stands. The way Stead has been coached, the way Stead has been taught to play the game is a huge issue and problem. I share in your philosophy. However, I still think you're being a bit harsh on steady though. He wasn't the most gifted player but he was far from bad. After all he's played pretty much all his career in the Prem or Championship. He wasn't a donkey and he wasn't tactically inept. In fact, I remember a previous manager talking about what an intelligent footballer he was. Players like Sproule I'd argue fall into the 'everything that's wrong with British football' category with his run and nothing else mentality. Jon Stead, in my opinion, just had a little bit more quality than perhaps you're giving him credit for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK0wnag3 Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 Instead of going at the players, surely it's the coaches who pick these players that are what you believe is wrong with English football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decent Bantam10 Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 did he get a good reception? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 did he get a good reception? Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decent Bantam10 Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 quality:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 I was impressed with him, Held the ball up well. Prob the best striker on show last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 Not really ridiculous though is it? As I said....we are a nation who celebrates average and players who "work hard and never stops running". As a proffesional athelete....they should be doing that anyway. Always makes me cringe when the crowd cheers and claps a player for tear assing round like a headless chicken for a few seconds to close a keeper or defender down. He was a likeable guy.....great to follow on twitter and that. However as a football player.....his all round game and his contribution, was poor. He was made to look better then he was by the fact he was in an extremely poor team The point is an obvious one but aimed at the wrong player. As he showed last night, Steads ability is underrated by some of you. He has an excellent touch and good vision. He is not a strong target man like Wilbs, but in other respects is similar & holds the ball up well. The parallels with Crouch are worth repeating. He certainly wouldn't look out of place back in our side. I'd happily re-sign him. To say that he is "all that's wrong with football" as a talentless tryer is as wide of the mark as our strikers' shooting last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 The point is an obvious one but aimed at the wrong player. As he showed last night, Steads ability is underrated by some of you. He has an excellent touch and good vision. He is not a strong target man like Wilbs, but in other respects is similar & holds the ball up well. The parallels with Crouch are worth repeating. He certainly wouldn't look out of place back in our side. I'd happily re-sign him. To say that he is "all that's wrong with football" as a talentless tryer is as wide of the mark as our strikers' shooting last night. I'd go as far as to say we perhaps could go with another forward with similar attributes to Stead right now, as it's pretty clear (as excellent as he is) that we need a more direct replacement for Wilbraham when he tires/isn't quite getting into the game. Neither JET or Burns are suitable replacements for the role Wilbs plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodburyred Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 I thought this. We could do a lot worse than have him on the bench for the last ten minutes of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 I'd go as far as to say we perhaps could go with another forward with similar attributes to Stead right now, as it's pretty clear (as excellent as he is) that we need a more direct replacement for Wilbraham when he tires/isn't quite getting into the game. Neither JET or Burns are suitable replacements for the role Wilbs plays. Eoin Doyle impressed me playing for Chesterfield recently. Difficult to play against. Someone like him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decent Bantam10 Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 Stead with Hanson will hurt teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 Stead with Hanson will hurt teams. Will hurt your neck as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decent Bantam10 Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 Why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avalonred Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 Why Oh God..... are you still here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 Oh God..... are you still here? Play nicely Avalonred ,perhaps Bantam has been banned from his own forum . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avalonred Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 Play nicely Avalonred ,perhaps Bantam has been banned from his own forum . It's like having a party then waking up the next morning to find a 'friend of a friend' cooking breakfast in your kitchen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 It's like having a party then waking up the next morning to find a 'friend of a friend' cooking breakfast in your kitchen! Oh dear. That really tickled me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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