keeno85 Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 Just wondering, considering the clubs being linked with Doherty, what fans are expecting in terms of a fee. Sunderland are £40 million in debt, QPR have no money either, and very few first divison clubs could surley afford the £750,000+ that most city fans would consider a fair fee. The only club linked who would be in a position to make city an "attractive" offer, would be Southampton. If Doherty expresses a wish to leave, city fans may be dissapointed by the fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rizzle Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 Just wondering, considering the clubs being linked with Doherty, what fans are expecting in terms of a fee. Sunderland are £40 million in debt, QPR have no money either, and very few first divison clubs could surley afford the £750,000+ that most city fans would consider a fair fee. The only club linked who would be in a position to make city an "attractive" offer, would be Southampton. If Doherty expresses a wish to leave, city fans may be dissapointed by the fee. £750,000 what!! He's worth well more than that to the club. I know that no one can afford it but I wouldn't accept anything less than £1.5million.He is the heart and soul of our team we must keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeno85 Posted June 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 I agree that he is so important to our team, and also wouldnt accept anything less then £1.5 million for him. But we could find oursleves in the same situation as we had with Scott Murray last season, and could suffer from a depressed transfer market again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 You'd be bloody lucky to get £1.5 million for any 2nd division (1st division, whatever our league is called now) player. No matter how good they are. £750k is best we can hope for I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pewsham Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 You'd be bloody lucky to get £1.5 million for any 2nd division (1st division, whatever our league is called now) player. No matter how good they are. £750k is best we can hope for I think Seconded! We'll get about the same for Tom as we had for Scott Murray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest exiledred Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 i think we will be in serious trouble if tommy leaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray White Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 I reckon he's probably worth about 75k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest exiledred Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 I reckon he's probably worth about 75k. u are having a laugh aren't u? 75k? i hope u mean 750k! at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray White Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 Nope mate. Seventy-five thousand is what i said and i shall stick to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingswoodRed Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 Nope mate. Seventy-five thousand is what i said and i shall stick to that. Let me guess. You're not an estate agent are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reds Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 Thats worth less than Marc Goodfellow ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyAli Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 We will more likely get about 150k plus add ons like sell on clause, more money after so many appearences and depending which club is involved there may be another player chucked in....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bcfcsols Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 I reckon he's probably worth about 75k. I hope thats another bout of sarcasm hitting this board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidergeorge Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 If JB goes to Wycombe and these are serious rumours about the Doc, that will mean we will have to look fo at least 1 centre mid this summer. I can't see us getting rid of both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rizzle Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 You'd be bloody lucky to get £1.5 million for any 2nd division (1st division, whatever our league is called now) player. No matter how good they are. £750k is best we can hope for I think EXACTLY WE'RE NOT TRYING TO FIND A PRICE TO SELL HIM FOR HE IS WORTH £1.5MILLION EVEN IF IT WOULD BE LUCKY FOR US TO GET IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Swiss Baloney Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 You'd be bloody lucky to get £1.5 million for any 2nd division (1st division, whatever our league is called now) player. No matter how good they are. £750k is best we can hope for I think I would say Noooooo Foooooookkkkkkkiiiiin Way!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 Anything over £ 300,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Neo Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 EXACTLY WE'RE NOT TRYING TO FIND A PRICE TO SELL HIM FOR HE IS WORTH £1.5MILLION EVEN IF IT WOULD BE LUCKY FOR US TO GET IT. Hello Mr Chairman, always wondered what your other alias was on here. We will be lucky to get £400k and if we did I am sure the club will happily take it. There are better players than Tommy moving for free transfers at the moment (just higher wages). We can't price our players out of the market; we need financial security first and foremost and if that involves selling Doherty to achieve; the sooner, the better. Last season Cardiff offered £500k for Coles. God I bet the board regret turning that one down. We'd struggle to get anywhere near that sort of offer for him again. Major mistake IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashcott Boy Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 I am very glad we didnt sell Coles as he is are best defender IMO. If we sell Tommy and Coles the spine of our team will have gone i would prefer to keep them and refuse offers because without those two i cant see us doing much next year even if we would have more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeno85 Posted June 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 We will be lucky to get £400k and if we did I am sure the club will happily take it. There are better players than Tommy moving for free transfers at the moment (just higher wages). We can't price our players out of the market; we need financial security first and foremost and if that involves selling Doherty to achieve; the sooner, the better. Last season Cardiff offered £500k for Coles. God I bet the board regret turning that one down. We'd struggle to get anywhere near that sort of offer for him again. Major mistake IMO. While I agree that financial security is crucial, I hope this to be the only reason if Doherty is sold. People are talking about Wellens as a possible repalcement, but how would we get him ahead of bigger clubs if he is as good as people are making him out to be? Also, even in a depressed transfer market, not selling Danny Coles last summer was the right decision. He is still only 22 and is already such an accomplished defender, a premiership player for the future surely, and anything short of £1 million would be bad business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Neo Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 I don't see how the market will ever be anything other than depressed post-Bosman. As more and more foreign stars are brought in, better quality players will move down to the Coca-Cola Championship (what a stupid name!). Hence, what we now call a depressed market will surely become the norm? I don't think Danny Coles will ever leave Bristol City with a fee involving more than £300/400k. More than likely, he will walk away for nothing in a couple of years time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bcfc_babe Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 We cant lose Tommy without question! i only hope that he has got a deep anough love 4 the team 2 stay with us because its very unlikely that the fee we get for him will b anywhere near what he is worth to us, both the bristol city team and the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 i think we will be in serious trouble if tommy leaves I don't think we'd miss Tommy at all. We have Burnell.............oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickD Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 I think we'd be lucky to get anything over £600k. Most of the money will be stuck into clauses in the contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pentlandsl Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 I think £1,000,000 is a realistic amount. Whilst most teams can't dig out that much in one go there will be the usual system of staged payments over 2-4 years, with City probably factoring the debt with one of the factoring finance houses for around £750K - £800K in readies. Probably good business in the long run as no player is irreplaceable, it would be no different than if Tommy had a bad injury and was sidelined for a season - the team would adapt without him. We mustn't sacrifice financial stability over sentiment - I remember 1982 and how much the thought of City disappearing hurt until we were saved. Maybe some of the younger members of the forum don't remember those times but I sure do. What is more important? - No City in 5 years time or hanging on to a player regardless of the offers received? We don't have Abromovich and we are in Div 2 (or CC Div 1) - time for a reality check! In case anyone thinks otherwise I would love it if Tommy stays but I just can't see it happening for the reasons above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickD Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 But what would be better selling one of our best players for £500-£700k, spending more years in Division 2, or hanging on to the best players and going all out to get out of the division ASAP? surely selling Doc would signal our admission that we wont be out of this division for a while? Although i completely agree that i dont remember '82 (i was born in 83), we are not in the same position as clubs like Leeds or Bradford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pentlandsl Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 Although i completely agree that i dont remember '82 (i was born in 83), we are not in the same position as clubs like Leeds or Bradford. Imagine waking up tomorrow and the Evening Post announced that Bristol City had been wound up and no longer existed - that is the reality of financial mismanagement. Could you face it? Couldn't happen to a top club? Ask yourself where the Italian team Fiorentino are now. From European champions to the Rymans league in one season. That is the price of poor financial management. Leeds are where they are because they gambled a shed load of money they didn't have to get into the Champions League. And failed. Should we gamble money we don't have to get of Div2 and take the risk of not doing so and going out of business? I love City and have done so for 28 years. Better to take a risk and get rid of a quality player like Tommy to balance the books than take a chance on keeping him and MAYBE going up. I would rather watch City in Div2 for the next 10 years than not be able to watch them at all. The Chairman will do what do what is right (but painful) for the long term future of the club, and I applaud him for that. It takes guts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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