havanatopia Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) Like Peterborough, Colchester has had its fair share of Roman invaders. The majority of those that came to Colchester, however, did not arrive in the mid 1950's but about 1,910 years earlier in around 45 AD. These were an entirely different type of Italian who raped and pillaged at will. The Celtic Trinovantes were completely overrun and largely wiped out by the invading Romans who named the group of 12 small settlements Camulodunum and the seat of Cunobelinus. It was hugely significant because it was the first Roman capital of Britain. While the busy Roman's took their eye off the 'tiller', however, our very own Boadicea, Queen of the Iceni Tribe, burnt the settlement to the ground. She went on to do the same in London and no doubt had good reason after the Romans raped both of her daughters. She in fact had been close to driving the Romans from these shores in AD60. Suetonius Paullinus was the Roman who eventually defeated Boadicea on Watling Street, The British were defeated and she died shortly after. The Romans rebuilt the settlement with greater fortifications. It was not until the Romans were replaced by the Saxons, around 407AD that the settlement took on the name Colne Ceaster. Colchester developed rapidly from the production of woolen cloth and drew a lot of migrants from Flanders. It had, from early time, a significant Catholic population and considering its importance in our history can perhaps feel a little hard done by in not being granted diocese or city status both applications of which were turned down. The town has some fine historical buildings and any resemblance to the name 'Cradle of Filth' a group including Colcestrian Paul Allender, surely is purely coincidental. Colchester United, as we know, used to play at Layer Road and I remember the day when i was behind the opposition goal, rather mischievously, trying to distract one Gerken fella between the sticks. from memory that failed because i think we lost. Since moving to Cuckoo Farm Colchester have not fulfilled their ambitions of upper League 1 football; they only spent the 2007 season in the 2nd tier thanks to Phil Parkinson's management. Interestingly Colchester have other similarities with the Unposh, being formed around the same time, in 1937, and also elected to the Football League around the same time, 1950 and have spent most of their time in the lower two divisions. One interesting deviation is that in 1937, when Colchester Town decided against going professional, United were formed, using the same Layer Road ground and putting Town out of business in fairly short fashion. Hard to believe but in that first season of league football the club averaged over 10,000 for each home game at Layer Road. Where has all that support gone? Colchester were managed by Jock Wallace but 'even' the former Rangers man could not stop them dropping into non-league football in the mid 80's. By the time they were back in the Football league, some time in the early 90's and after Bradford and Heysel, Colchester had both a business case and need to move to a new home and thanks to the council buying the ground this happened with a leaseback agreement. The new stadium, as with City, was built by the Scottish firm Barr Construction. The town of Colchester have seen war, blood and toil, the prestigious title of being the first capital of Roman Britain and 'saved' by Boadicea only to fall to the Romans again. To say its most illustrious days are behind it is probably true but can we say the same of its football team? A new ground in the first wave of the Taylor report and with a population of some 125,000 should be able to easily support a League 1 or lower Championship team if they could get back to those 1950's averages. Perhaps the close proximity of Ipswich precludes that from happening. I have rather waffled on here on a town that perhaps deserves a little better historically but whose football club is probably where it deserves to be in the scheme of things.. anything other than a resounding victory for us today, for me, would be a disappointment. All 4 strikers raring to go we must put these guys to the sword as many have done in historical battle! 1-4 Agard, Smith, Freeman, Flint. Edited February 21, 2015 by havanatopia 3 Quote Link to comment
Major Isewater Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) Colchester is the capital of the white stiletto shoe . The club imaginatively nicknamed the U's share the distinction ,along with us ,of beating Don Revie's imperious Leeds Utd in the cup (in 1971). Be careful when you type i want "us" to win that it does n't write as U's or you could ruin your OTIB. Credentials. City to win 3-1 . I see a sending off . COYR Edited February 21, 2015 by Always the bridesmaid Quote Link to comment
Coombsy Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 4/0 city Quote Link to comment
Major Isewater Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Like Peterborough, Colchester has had its fair share of Roman invaders. The majority of those that came to Colchester, however, did not arrive in the mid 1950's but about 1,910 years earlier in around 45 AD. These were an entirely different type of Italian who raped and pillaged at will. The Celtic Trinovantes were completely overrun and largely wiped out by the invading Romans who named the group of 12 small settlements Camulodunum and the seat of Cunobelinus. It was hugely significant because it was the first Roman capital of Britain. While the busy Roman's took their eye off the 'tiller', however, our very own Boadicea, Queen of the Iceni Tribe, burnt the settlement to the ground. She went on to do the same in London and no doubt had good reason after the Romans raped both of her daughters. She in fact had been close to driving the Romans from these shores in AD60. Suetonius Paullinus was the Roman who eventually defeated Boadicea on Watling Street, The British were defeated and she died shortly after. The Romans rebuilt the settlement with greater fortifications. It was not until the Romans were replaced by the Saxons, around 407AD that the settlement took on the name Colne Ceaster. Colchester developed rapidly from the production of woolen cloth and drew a lot of migrants from Flanders. It had, from early time, a significant Catholic population and considering its importance in our history can perhaps feel a little hard done by in not being granted diocese or city status both applications of which were turned down. The town has some fine historical buildings and any resemblance to the name 'Cradle of Filth' a group including Colcestrian Paul Allender, surely is purely coincidental. Colchester United, as we know, used to play at Layer Road and I remember the day when i was behind the opposition goal, rather mischievously, trying to distract one Gerken fella between the sticks. from memory that failed because i think we lost. Since moving to Cuckoo Farm Colchester have not fulfilled their ambitions of upper League 1 football; they only spent the 2007 season in the 2nd tier thanks to Phil Parkinson's management. Interestingly Colchester have other similarities with the Unposh, being formed around the same time, in 1937, and also elected to the Football League around the same time, 1950 and have spent most of their time in the lower two divisions. One interesting deviation is that in 1937, when Colchester Town decided against going professional, United were formed, using the same Layer Road ground and putting Town out of business in fairly short fashion. Hard to believe but in that first season of league football the club averaged over 10,000 for each home game at Layer Road. Where has all that support gone? Colchester were managed by Jock Wallace but 'even' the former Rangers man could not stop them dropping into non-league football in the mid 80's. By the time they were back in the Football league, some time in the early 90's and after Bradford and Heysel, Colchester had both a business case and need to move to a new home and thanks to the council buying the ground this happened with a leaseback agreement. The new stadium, as with City, was built by the Scottish firm Barr Construction. The town of Colchester have seen war, blood and toil, the prestigious title of being the first capital of Roman Britain and 'saved' by Boadicea only to fall to the Romans again. To say its most illustrious days are behind it is probably true but can we say the same of its football team? A new ground in the first wave of the Taylor report and with a population of some 125,000 should be able to easily support a League 1 or lower Championship team if they could get back to those 1950's averages. Perhaps the close proximity of Ipswich precludes that from happening. I have rather waffled on here on a town that perhaps deserves a little better historically but whose football club is probably where it deserves to be in the scheme of things.. anything other than a resounding victory for us today, for me, would be a disappointment. All 4 strikers raring to go we must put these guys to the sword as many have done in historical battle! 1-4 Agard, Smith, Freeman, Flint. Good start H ,as we all know you have been up all night working on this ;0) . One small point ,i believe more Colchester inhabitants jump on the train for the short ride to London for their football fix than go to Suffolk to support the dipsticks . A blessing on your house . Quote Link to comment
nickolas Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 4/0 city Terrible odds for a city win. Put 4 on for 0 back? Must be a cert to win with the bookies then if those odds are true..........! Quote Link to comment
TNBT Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 I'm feeling a 0-3 today with Matt Smith Elliott and either Wilbs or Agard getting back to scoring ways. COME ON YOU REDS!!! Quote Link to comment
samo II Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 3-1 to City. COYR Quote Link to comment
AirlieBeachRed Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 3 nil to City COYR Quote Link to comment
Red white and red Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 0-2 city flint and freeman Quote Link to comment
lou-peters-dive Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Colchester v leeds 1971. Remember that well. Ray Crawford did Leeds that day and a certain Gary Sprake was Leeds very own FLAPPER in goal. Quote Link to comment
Buckobcfc Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 I fear for us today against their lot, hope we don't pick up any injuries can see a 1-0 to col u after a dodgy pen decision and the ref turning down 2 or 3 clear cut pens for us 1 Quote Link to comment
Bar BS3 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 I fear for us today against their lot, hope we don't pick up any injuries can see a 1-0 to col u after a dodgy pen decision and the ref turning down 2 or 3 clear cut pens for us Why, who is the ref today? Quote Link to comment
Buckobcfc Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Dunno mate haven't looked just got a nasty feeling about today the penalty thing was in jest Quote Link to comment
Lew-T Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 We will win comfortably today. 1 Quote Link to comment
havanatopia Posted February 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Was the farm really called cuckoo farm? I always presumed it was the farm attached to the now derelict county asylum (Severalls Hosptial) who's water tower you can see to the left of the west end of the ground. Yup. Now an art studio. Quote Link to comment
Buckobcfc Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 We will win comfortably today. I fear for them, were 5 points clear at the top and they've lost 8 out 9 at home. hope your right fellas I just have a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach that I haven't really had this season hopefully it was just a dodgy curry last night Quote Link to comment
havanatopia Posted February 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 hope your right fellas I just have a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach that I haven't really had this season hopefully it was just a dodgy curry last night Quote Link to comment
Sparkz 76 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 On paper we should rip these apart but we were all expecting to do the same to Crewe and we returned pointless. Tight narrow victory 1-2 city. Matt Smith and Joe Bryan with the goals Quote Link to comment
redsquirrel Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 0-2 city flint and freeman funny you say freeman, someone else i know thinks he will score today. i think joe and jet will steal the show,2 each in a 4-1 win Quote Link to comment
Out of his pie crust Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 On way to game. I go along with sparkz.... 1-2 city. Flint & agard again. Quote Link to comment
Numero Uno Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 I would take a 1-0 win today. Quote Link to comment
Ryan_BCFC Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Haven't predicted a game all season so here goes: 1-2 City (Smith & Agard) Quote Link to comment
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 I was wrong last Saturday. Got a funny feeling it's going to be a 1 - 1 draw. Quote Link to comment
ten minutes of rough Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) Dunno mate haven't looked just got a nasty feeling about today the penalty thing was in jest Well if we can't beat the mighty U's then we might as well forget promotion, it's as clear cut as that. Edited February 21, 2015 by ten minutes of rough Quote Link to comment
AG68 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 3-0 city you redzzzzz Quote Link to comment
havanatopia Posted February 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) I was wrong last Saturday. Got a funny feeling it's going to be a 1 - 1 draw. Talking of gut feelings how is the impending Russian invasion coming along? Or is that in bad taste? I should also like to make a correction to my OP.. Colchester were in fact relegated to the Conference in 1990 not 1985. They also spent 2 seasons not 1 in the Championship thru 2008. I would appreciate your understanding of these poor and careless errors in the OP Edited February 21, 2015 by havanatopia Quote Link to comment
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Talking of gut feelings how is the impending Russian invasion coming along? Or is that in bad taste? I should also like to make a correction to my OP.. Colchester were in fact relegated to the Conference in 1990 not 1985. They also spent 2 seasons not 1 in the Championship thru 2008. I would appreciate your understanding of these poor and careless errors in the OP Putin's got no chance, Estonia has just purchased 80 outdated tanks from Finland, plus two NATO Typhoon's patrolling the border. We are all safe, I hope! Quote Link to comment
Major Isewater Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Well if we can't beat the mighty U's then we might as well forget promotion, it's as clear cut as that. I totally agree in principal TMOR but the beauty of football means that anything can happen on the day to upset the form book . That is why winning the league is harder than the cup . Quote Link to comment
Phileas Fogg Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Heart - we make a statement. Win 0-5 JET 2, Smith, Pack and Bryan. Head - comfortable 0-2. Quote Link to comment
1891 B.C. Sweden Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Come On You Reds!!! 3-1 City Quote Link to comment
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