screech Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Personally I look at our first 11 and know these players are more than capable of getting into the top 10 of this league, so we may have missed out on a few signings, oh well, never mind. One things for sure, SC has gone for quality over quantity, and I admire that. One delivered so far, who knows how many we have tried for, who knows who we may end up with yet. On the plus side we could have easily ended up with masses of shit that was the GJ transfer policy, or otherwise known as clubs in the bag. We appear to have learned our lesson on that front at least. It appears that some are craving for any signing no matter who it is, just to have something to gossip about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Personally I look at our first 11 and know these players are more than capable of getting into the top 10 of this league, so we may have missed out on a few signings, oh well, never mind. One things for sure, SC has gone for quality over quantity, and I admire that. One delivered so far, who knows how many we have tried for, who knows who we may end up with yet. On the plus side we could have easily ended up with masses of shit that was the GJ transfer policy, or otherwise known as clubs in the bag. We appear to have learned our lesson on that front at least. It appears that some are craving for any signing no matter who it is, just to have something to gossip about.no, you aren't, but I had thought it was just me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducky Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 I'm calm, the first eleven we field on saturday will bring us back at least a point, very likely all three. we will sign players, loan or permanent before the window closes. The league isn't won or lost in the first few games, the one thing we don't want to do now is panic and sign bodies to make up the numbers. If we can get a few quality/hungry players in on loan and one or two proven championship players on permanent deals before the window closes then i think we will be challenging the play-offs, if not more this season. In my opinion, we are only a few good additions away from challenging the big boys in this league. There are a lot of average teams in the championship that stay in the league because a few teams perform drastically poorly each season, teams like cardiff and leeds are in this category. On paper they may look like half decent teams but that's where it ends. We have a team that plays like a team and seem to enjoy playing with each other, more importantly they are used to winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider_boy Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 My concern isn't the first 11, it's the lack of back ups. We were very lucky last season with the lack of injurys, we won't always be so lucky, which is why most clubs have slightly bigger squads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted August 4, 2015 Admin Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 As long as we end up with "some" then I'll be happy enough because as you say, the starting XI is good. However, the bench at present is O'Leary, el Abd, Wagstaff, Burns, Reid so that needs to improve a bit for options & injury replacements/managing fatigue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 I wouldn't say I'm not bothered, but it has amazed/shocked/staggered/pissed me off that so many seem to have gone from "this team would do well in the championship" to "omg, we're already relegated" inside 2 months. I think we have a good chance of beating Sheff Wed on Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 You can keep burying your head in the sand if you want to. We are a few days away from entering a Championship season with 14 senior players. Whichever way you look at it, our summer recruitment has been a disaster and we have an inferior squad to last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 A good start, say 6/7 points out of 9, may make us a more attractive proposition to many potential targets. Panic on September 1st if we still have 16 players, until then, I see no reason to worry too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vFWkJuPhApc ...might as well av a laugh while we wait to see wot occurs yeah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 I'm not bothered at all. If we went past the emergency loan window like this I might be however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingLear Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 An interesting question I would pose to everyone on here would be; What would you have placed more importance on during pre-season? Presuming you had to pick one of the following options. 1. Bring in proven Championship/young Premiership players for high transfer fees and wages. 2. Keep hold of Flint, Bryan, Freeman etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Not bothered but anxious as every fan wants to see improvements but it's not a rush to sign players. Anything can happen but I don't foresee a rash of injuries/suspensions over the first 2-3 games. I actually expect to beat Wednesday as we have a settle starting 11 and they are integrating a fair few new faces. Just want some good signings and I think it's hard to keep that optimistic mindset when we haven't had any. Just a long summer with as little activity as we've had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babbacome Dave Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 An interesting question I would pose to everyone on here would be; What would you have placed more importance on during pre-season? Presuming you had to pick one of the following options. 1. Bring in proven Championship/young Premiership players for high transfer fees and wages. 2. Keep hold of Flint, Bryan, Freeman etc. Without doubt Option 2. There is still loads of time to improve our current squad, plus we must learn from past errors paying too much to journeymen who just wanted to see their time out on an unacceptable salary. I firmly believe SL has to run the football club as he would run any other business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 An interesting question I would pose to everyone on here would be; What would you have placed more importance on during pre-season? Presuming you had to pick one of the following options. 1. Bring in proven Championship/young Premiership players for high transfer fees and wages. 2. Keep hold of Flint, Bryan, Freeman etc. Just a thought. A successful summer would have seen us do both, they are not mutually exclusive.. Chippenham Red's post in this thread means no need to add anything further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Chappers Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Untried at this level, no options, no depth, what's the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 I wasn't concerned until I saw the first eleven struggling to make an impact against Yeovil's team of strangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_clevedon Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 You can keep burying your head in the sand if you want to. We are a few days away from entering a Championship season with 14 senior players. Whichever way you look at it, our summer recruitment has been a disaster and we have an inferior squad to last year. Disaster? Really?? My wife supports Reading - a few weeks ago their fans were declaring their recruitment as a disaster. Suddenly the Thai owners let the manager know what his budget was (!) and they made 5 signings: 2 keepers (one of whom is young and inexperienced, one of which who is old and looks very suspect), 2 out of contract players from Hull (both of whom I wouldn't particularly have wanted at City) and one unknown striker from Portugal who isn't yet match fit. They just about managed to beat the Gas in a friendly (for large parts of the game they made the Gas look like the Championship side), lost to Crawley, drew with Swansea and drew 0-0 with Espanyol while only having one shot on target. Compared to that, I'd say our summer recruitment, while not ideal, is far from disastrous and let's not forget, it hasn't finished yet, there's almost a month to go and I have great faith in SC and KB. However, as with everything in football, time will tell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collier Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 The only people who are not bothered one bit are the ones who can't admit on an anonymous forum that we are woefully short. We have a completely untried first 11 at this level and exactly nothing else. No club who are looking to the higher echelons of this division will be going in this ill prepared. There is a reason certain clubs like to have a squad of 25 players who can all contribute at this level. These clubs have the youth, experience and depth to have a plan A B C D E F for any given situation, we have plan A and that consists of hoping that the side that walked league 1 last year can suddenly compete in the league above. How many sides hoping to stay in the premiership keep the exact same first 11 the next season?? The answer is usually none, even if that side has walked the league below. The reason being that when you step up a level, you naturally need to add more quality and experience to compete. We have loads of fans who can't seem to look past their sentimental feeling for City and believe just because its our club we will be ok. If you were an outsider looking into an identical scenario at another club, most would be saying that they are not prepared, don't have the experience and have a wafer thin squad for this level of football imho of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_clevedon Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 The only people who are not bothered one bit are the ones who can't admit on an anonymous forum that we are woefully short. We have a completely untried first 11 at this level and exactly nothing else. No club who are looking to the higher echelons of this division will be going in this ill prepared. There is a reason certain clubs like to have a squad of 25 players who can all contribute at this level. These clubs have the youth, experience and depth to have a plan A B C D E F for any given situation, we have plan A and that consists of hoping that the side that walked league 1 last year can suddenly compete in the league above. How many sides hoping to stay in the premiership keep the exact same first 11 the next season?? The answer is usually none, even if that side has walked the league below. The reason being that when you step up a level, you naturally need to add more quality and experience to compete. We have loads of fans who can't seem to look past their sentimental feeling for City and believe just because its our club we will be ok. If you were an outsider looking into an identical scenario at another club, most would be saying that they are not prepared, don't have the experience and have a wafer thin squad for this level of football imho of course. What has 'anonymous forum' got to do with anything?? No-one, especially me, is denying the squad needs strengthening, but emotive words like 'woefully short' and 'disaster' are bordering on the hysterical. I don't understand the panic...sorry, that's my view, but maybe I'll be proved wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 The only people who are not bothered one bit are the ones who can't admit on an anonymous forum that we are woefully short. We have a completely untried first 11 at this level and exactly nothing else. No club who are looking to the higher echelons of this division will be going in this ill prepared. There is a reason certain clubs like to have a squad of 25 players who can all contribute at this level. These clubs have the youth, experience and depth to have a plan A B C D E F for any given situation, we have plan A and that consists of hoping that the side that walked league 1 last year can suddenly compete in the league above. How many sides hoping to stay in the premiership keep the exact same first 11 the next season?? The answer is usually none, even if that side has walked the league below. The reason being that when you step up a level, you naturally need to add more quality and experience to compete. We have loads of fans who can't seem to look past their sentimental feeling for City and believe just because its our club we will be ok. If you were an outsider looking into an identical scenario at another club, most would be saying that they are not prepared, don't have the experience and have a wafer thin squad for this level of football imho of course. Bollox, I couldn't give a toss, there are more important things in life, like my health and the wellbeing of friends and family. This is just football, not life or death. I'd love us to do well, but I really aren't bothered by this lack of signings, it's football that's all. No offence meant, and taking your comment out of context but really, I'm not worried at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collier Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Bollox, I couldn't give a toss, there are more important things in life, like my health and the wellbeing of friends and family. This is just football, not life or death. I'd love us to do well, but I really aren't bothered by this lack of signings, it's football that's all. No offence meant, and taking your comment out of context but really, I'm not worried at all. Im talking from a strictly footballing point of view, family, friends etc etc had nothing to do with the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Personally I look at our first 11 and know these players are more than capable of getting into the top 10 of this league, so we may have missed out on a few signings, oh well, never mind. One things for sure, SC has gone for quality over quantity, and I admire that. One delivered so far, who knows how many we have tried for, who knows who we may end up with yet. On the plus side we could have easily ended up with masses of shit that was the GJ transfer policy, or otherwise known as clubs in the bag. We appear to have learned our lesson on that front at least. It appears that some are craving for any signing no matter who it is, just to have something to gossip about. With you Screech, at least the ITK's have been proved totally and utterly clueless, even down to the people who whinged about the the colour of the new seats have been proved wrong because the ******* wrapping has now been taken off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Im talking from a strictly footballing point of view, family, friends etc etc had nothing to do with the post. Yeah I know, but some people on here think it's a life and death scenario, I was merely trying say CALM DOWN LADS, it's not life or death. We have very capable professionals in charge of what is a very difficult scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 With you Screech, at least the ITK's have been proved totally and utterly clueless, even down to the people who whinged about the the colour of the new seats have been proved wrong because the ******* wrapping has now been taken off. The ITK's are a joke, but worse are the clowns that hang on to every whim they write, makes me wonder what kind of creature am I sharing the forum with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collier Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 What has 'anonymous forum' got to do with anything?? No-one, especially me, is denying the squad needs strengthening, but emotive words like 'woefully short' and 'disaster' are bordering on the hysterical. I don't understand the panic...sorry, that's my view, but maybe I'll be proved wrong! If you think the squad needs strengthening then the post was not aimed at you was it? I don't recall using the word "disaster" either but add that in there if it makes your point more valid. Emotive words like "bordering on the hysterical"" you mean yea? There are plenty on here who have posted that they are happy to start the season with what we have, these are the people who won't admit we are short. like the op maybe, who has quoted he is "not bothered one bit". Perhaps you should try reading his post and tie my reply in with the actual thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 I'm worried about wtf we're going to play RWB sat, in worried who's going to come on for Wilbs on the hour when he's knackered and I'm worried about the fact that we got players on the bench that SC clearly does not rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citywest30 Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 I accept keeping key players is massively important and whilst frustrated at the lack of new signings I'm not part of the 'now we'll really struggle' brigade as I'm sure faces will come in to help us be mid table at worst. However, I do feel like the club have messed up as all this has dampened the enthusiasm and momentum that last season created. We were riding the crest of a wave and this was the perfect opportunity to add some exciting signings and carry it in to the new season. I just hope it's just on this forum where that seems to have gone and not in the atmosphere within the club or at the ground come the first home game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 If you think the squad needs strengthening then the post was not aimed at you was it? I don't recall using the word "disaster" either but add that in there if it makes your point more valid. Emotive words like "bordering on the hysterical"" you mean yea? There are plenty on here who have posted that they are happy to start the season with what we have, these are the people who won't admit we are short. like the op maybe, who has quoted he is "not bothered one bit". Perhaps you should try reading his post and tie my reply in with the actual thread!I'm happy to go in to the season as we are. Perfectly happy. If we need reinforcements we can bring in a loan: Tom Ince, Patrick Bamford, Darren Bent just off the top of my head all loaned to the Championship last year and each better than we could reasonably expect to buy. I hate the thought of a 25 man squad personally. SC doesn't do rotation so we'll be paying players for the sake of it, presumably on 2-3 year contracts with bugger all resale value. To me 25 man squad, even more than a few quality players on the bench is just dead money and expensive insurance in my eyes. So yeah I don't care one iota if we don't make another permanent signing. I'll care if the emergency loan window closes and we've brought in no-one. And I'm not saying it because of any reason other than I genuinely think it, and you have my reasoning for thinking it. Feel free to disagree with the reasoning. Perhaps the real difference is in expectations. Reading your initial post you talk of teams at the top not fearing us and not preparing as we have. As it goes I wouldn't be shocked at all if we had a great season (from tenth - promotion) but equally I will not be disappointed to finish 21st, whereas it sounds as though you might. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb6162 Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 I'm worried about wtf we're going to play RWB sat, in worried who's going to come on for Wilbs on the hour when he's knackered and I'm worried about the fact that we got players on the bench that SC clearly does not rate Oh give over ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedYoshi Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Just out of interest... if I were to say I was worried or not worried... what difference would it make? You know, before I make up my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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