Unan Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Is it just me that's terrified about this? Can see us getting turnt over tomorrow, god know what formation, tactics etc SC will go for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fka dagest Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 I'd prefer you didn't insinuate that one player carries the burden of our current defensive frailties. Admittedly he needs to up his game, but from what I've seen the lack of tracking back by the midfield is as much a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_red Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 I dont think Williams defensive game is in question...just more when he has got the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted August 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 I'd prefer you didn't insinuate that one player carries the burden of our current defensive frailties. Admittedly he needs to up his game, but from what I've seen the lack of tracking back by the midfield is as much a problem. I'm not insinuating anything, I commented on a player v player? I've not once mentioned any other player, boros attack force as a whole, his generally ability as a defender or any pervious result/performances by him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Wouldn't it be more Bryan vs Adomah? It'll surely be more of a 532 away from home rather than 352 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 I think anyone would struggle against Albert. Bryan will have to help Williams out big time. Just have to hope Bert has an off day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fka dagest Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 I'm not insinuating anything, I commented on a player v player? I've not once mentioned any other player, boros attack force as a whole, his generally ability as a defender or any pervious result/performances by him. Yes, but you have titled this thread Williams vs Adomah and then gone on to say 'can see us getting turnt over tomorrow'. Even if not suggesting it's all about that match up it's quite clear you think it's pretty important. Personally I think Boro have plenty of other attacking problems for us too. Having said that I genuinely wouldn't be surprised to see us pick up a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRA Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Wouldn't it be more Bryan vs Adomah? It'll surely be more of a 532 away from home rather than 352 I really hope it is 532. Otherwise we could be in for a hiding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Far better players in that Boro team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 I really hope it is 532. Otherwise we could be in for a hiding. I'm sure it will be, I'm strangely optimistic about tomorrow. It would be so typical city for us to get a result there - like when we beat Southampton away a few years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 I'm sure it will be, I'm strangely optimistic about tomorrow. It would be so typical city for us to get a result there - like when we beat Southampton away a few years back.Like when we beat them in the fog up there a few years back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted August 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Yes, but you have titled this thread Williams vs Adomah and then gone on to say 'can see us getting turnt over tomorrow'. Even if not suggesting it's all about that match up it's quite clear you think it's pretty important. Personally I think Boro have plenty of other attacking problems for us too. Having said that I genuinely wouldn't be surprised to see us pick up a win. I was talking about us being caught on the counter attack, as Williams generally pushes further forward and leaves a great gap in behind him for a winger to run into. Admittedly, I couldn't have made it any less clear from my original post. (I wasn't criticising his general defending.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 I dont think Williams defensive game is in question...just more when he has got the ball. Easily out muscled for Brentfords 4th, scored an own goal in the same game, Leeds second he was literally no where to be seen. He needs to up his defensive game as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Like when we beat them in the fog up there a few years back! Yeah we've had a few freak results against strong favourites. I agree with SC to an extent that we've played well so far. The only time I didn't think we particularly played well was Sheffield Weds where we started well but were second best from about 25' onwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Is it just me that's terrified about this? Can see us getting turnt over tomorrow, god know what formation, tactics etc SC will go for.why are we starting threads like this?? What happened to the days of supporting players rather than rip them to shreds. Derek Williams was quality last season, like all players this season he is taking a bit of time to adjust. But how about we believe in him and trust him to come good like last season??? People to quick to jump on peoples back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 I'm sure it will be, I'm strangely optimistic about tomorrow. It would be so typical city for us to get a result there - like when we beat Southampton away a few years back. We had a great record at the Riverside last time in the Championship - 2 wins and 2 draws. As for Williams, he gets caught out of position with worrying frequency however JB has really got to help him out more. Think we'll miss Freeman from a defensive perspective too. He covers some ground that lad, always tracks back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted August 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 why are we starting threads like this?? What happened to the days of supporting players rather than rip them to shreds. Derek Williams was quality last season, like all players this season he is taking a bit of time to adjust. But how about we believe in him and trust him to come good like last season??? People to quick to jump on peoples back. I don't doubt him in the slightest, I'll believe in him and haven't said that I don't. However, currently, he isn't performing particularly well. I think it's more than fair to worry about his upcoming performance against one of the best, if not the best, wingers in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 I don't doubt him in the slightest, I'll believe in him and haven't said that I don't. However, currently, he isn't performing particularly well. I think it's more than fair to worry about his upcoming performance against one of the best, if not the best, wingers in this league.completely disagree, how you pick Williams out of everyone?? Know one has started amazing so to pick out an individual is bit silly and not very supportive especially after his performances last season. Or did u listen to it on the radio?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted August 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 completely disagree, how you pick Williams out of everyone?? Know one has started amazing so to pick out an individual is bit silly and not very supportive especially after his performances last season. Or did u listen to it on the radio?? I've picked out an individual as he's left us open at the bag multiple times already, and is up against Adomah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ten minutes of rough Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Is it just me that's terrified about this? Can see us getting turnt over tomorrow, god know what formation, tactics etc SC will go for. Its TURNED over for the love of God!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted August 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Its TURNED over for the love of God!!!! Noted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Think we'll get stuffed sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Someone going take a banner that says "We still love you Albert" The nice guy he is that'll get to him and he'll be completely unable to play against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Sadly I agree.... my opinion is that if everyone was forced to pick one player from the back three to replace the overwhelming majority would pick Williams over Flint or Ayling. It's not that he's a bad player, far from it, but he is certainly the weakest defender we have, and relies a lot on Joe Bryan to cover him. This was especially evident in the game against Wednesday. When we lost Joe, Williams was all over the place. I also think he was the only player in the team last year to regress from the season before. Bizarre as it may sound (and maybe it's simply because the rest of the defence were so poor) but I felt he had a better season when we were struggling than he did when we were awesome last year. His positional sense is sometimes found wanting and his distribution is often woeful. On the passing, there's not a huge amount he can do about that - and you don't need defenders to be able to produce a defence splitting pass - and the rest of the team need to help him by giving him a simpler option when he has the ball. But Williams and Pack are the only two that I'm not 100% convinced can make the step up to the Championship. Pack mainly because he always wants that extra bit of time on the ball to pick out the "Hollywood" pass and you don't really have that luxury in this league as teams regroup a lot quicker to nullify that tactic. That said, they both absolutely deserve the chance to prove themselves and I hope I'm proved wrong as their attitude and effort are exemplary and they've served us well so far. I realise that some of the above may seem very negative - it's not supposed to be. It's not that I'm saying I feel they're bad players, it just that I'm not convinced they have that bit "extra" to step up from league one. Time will tell though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Its TURNED over for the love of God!!!! It's IT'S, for the love of your God!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 It's IT'S, for the love your God!!!!! However, it's also love OF your God, for God's sake!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted August 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Just a reminder..http://youtu.be/iPTfTSbHuf4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 However, it's also love OF your God, for God's sake!!!!!!! No idea what you mean......!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Depends if our wing backs want to play at striker like they did against Leeds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 No idea what you mean......!!! The job of forum grammar police is a hazardous one, especially with automatic spell check! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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