And Its Smith Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 It makes me wince a little bit when I see clubs getting promoted out of this league and then signing a mix of old Premier League has beens and foreign players that end up not being able to adapt to the English league. I don't think the step up for individuals is that great. There are various examples of players moving up and holding their own before many thought they would. Ashley Westwood, Jose Fonte, Carl Jenkinson, Scott Dann and Yannick Bolasie are a few. I am convinced that Joe Bryan could do a job now in the Premier League. For me, he is no worse than 3 or 4 first choice left backs in the top flight. Instead of teams buying untried foreigners and Premier League also rans, why don't they buy the very best from the Championship? Perhaps the prices would be an issue, I don't know. But, do you think that this team would survive in the Premier League? Obviously the best team in the Championship is subjective but this wouldn't be far off (and I don't want this to become a thread scrutinising the best team, as that isn't the point!) .......................Marshall................... Byram......Davies.......Keogh...........Bryan .....Cairney.....Huddlestone....Snodgrass ......................Hughes....................... .........Rhodes.........Austin................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howey_ducky Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 i'm not sure where to start with this...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 i'm not sure where to start with this...... Thought it might be nice to discuss something other than truly insane football transfer rumours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin 101 Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 In the current market that teams going to cost 60m+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 In the current market that teams going to cost 60m+ For joey Bryan alone..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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howey_ducky Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 It would all depend on team spirit, formation and tactics, mental preparation, management and lack of transfer action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Isn't this a similar debate to 'why don't we look at the best league one players to sign now rather than championship journeymen or prem players out of our reach?' It's all about whether going up a division is really that big a step up or is it just perceived to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Excellent debate. Only on OTIB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Think this is quite a thought provoking subject tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thatwasclose Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Mainly because no one has the time or luxury to gamble so teams would rather buys players who have played at prem level before. The fact that Championship player of the year Bamford can't even get 15 minutes of game time at Crystal Palace tell the story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Not enough foreign players in that side for it to be considered a proper Premier League line up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNBT Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 It makes me wince a little bit when I see clubs getting promoted out of this league and then signing a mix of old Premier League has beens and foreign players that end up not being able to adapt to the English league. I don't think the step up for individuals is that great. There are various examples of players moving up and holding their own before many thought they would. Ashley Westwood, Jose Fonte, Carl Jenkinson, Scott Dann and Yannick Bolasie are a few. I am convinced that Joe Bryan could do a job now in the Premier League. For me, he is no worse than 3 or 4 first choice left backs in the top flight. Instead of teams buying untried foreigners and Premier League also rans, why don't they buy the very best from the Championship? Perhaps the prices would be an issue, I don't know. But, do you think that this team would survive in the Premier League? Obviously the best team in the Championship is subjective but this wouldn't be far off (and I don't want this to become a thread scrutinising the best team, as that isn't the point!) .......................Marshall................... Byram......Davies.......Keogh...........Bryan .....Cairney.....Huddlestone....Snodgrass ......................Hughes....................... .........Rhodes.........Austin................ Imo I reckon it would and maybe even more with the right manager putting the belief into them as I think that can make even normal average players punch ? above their weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Excellent debate. Only on OTIB. You can't post 1/3 of the posts on your own thread and then claim that it's an interesting debate. It's not a debate, it's a hypothetical question that will encourage hypothetical responses. That's not a debate. For what it's worth, I don't think that any promoted team that didn't have any premier league experience in there would fare very well. It's all about the right blend of youth & experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheatus59 Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 It makes me wince a little bit when I see clubs getting promoted out of this league and then signing a mix of old Premier League has beens and foreign players that end up not being able to adapt to the English league. I don't think the step up for individuals is that great. There are various examples of players moving up and holding their own before many thought they would. Ashley Westwood, Jose Fonte, Carl Jenkinson, Scott Dann and Yannick Bolasie are a few. I am convinced that Joe Bryan could do a job now in the Premier League. For me, he is no worse than 3 or 4 first choice left backs in the top flight. Instead of teams buying untried foreigners and Premier League also rans, why don't they buy the very best from the Championship? Perhaps the prices would be an issue, I don't know. But, do you think that this team would survive in the Premier League? Obviously the best team in the Championship is subjective but this wouldn't be far off (and I don't want this to become a thread scrutinising the best team, as that isn't the point!) .......................Marshall................... Byram......Davies.......Keogh...........Bryan .....Cairney.....Huddlestone....Snodgrass ......................Hughes....................... .........Rhodes.........Austin................ I do agree that managers always seem to go for players well past their best when they go into the prem , distin for example and how many teams went for hayden mullens ! I guess managers just think an old head will do , it makes me chuckle though as they nearly always just warm the bench . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 It makes me wince a little bit when I see clubs getting promoted out of this league and then signing a mix of old Premier League has beens and foreign players that end up not being able to adapt to the English league. I don't think the step up for individuals is that great. There are various examples of players moving up and holding their own before many thought they would. Ashley Westwood, Jose Fonte, Carl Jenkinson, Scott Dann and Yannick Bolasie are a few. I am convinced that Joe Bryan could do a job now in the Premier League. For me, he is no worse than 3 or 4 first choice left backs in the top flight. Instead of teams buying untried foreigners and Premier League also rans, why don't they buy the very best from the Championship? Perhaps the prices would be an issue, I don't know. But, do you think that this team would survive in the Premier League? Obviously the best team in the Championship is subjective but this wouldn't be far off (and I don't want this to become a thread scrutinising the best team, as that isn't the point!) .......................Marshall................... Byram......Davies.......Keogh...........Bryan .....Cairney.....Huddlestone....Snodgrass ......................Hughes....................... .........Rhodes.........Austin................ Flint is better than Keogh by a country mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwicolin Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 I'm worried about Bryan. I think he could be a good player in the Premiership and if he carries on playing the way he is at the moment,someone (Everton ) may bid for him , in this transfer window. When teams go up , they do spend over the odds on foreign players and ex prem players. It would be refreshing if a team picked young , hungry players from the lower leagues. Then again , with the foreign owners , I doubt if that would happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 You can't post 1/3 of the posts on your own thread and then claim that it's an interesting debate. It's not a debate, it's a hypothetical question that will encourage hypothetical responses. That's not a debate. For what it's worth, I don't think that any promoted team that didn't have any premier league experience in there would fare very well. It's all about the right blend of youth & experience. Haha I was being sarcastic. Mainly because the first few posters were not debating! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Bryan is on a par with the top 3 or 4 left backs in the premier league? Am I reading this right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 The answer to the question depends on the manager of the team. I would fancy that last year Sean Dyche had proven himself to be the best Championship manager of the previous season - though couldn't keep Burnley in the league. And without looking back at all their signings, Burnley kept the core of their Championship team, including the top striker from the previous season (Danny Ings), and despite some fine results, still got relegated. So I guess Burnley kind of answer the original question - the top Championship team would be relegated without the right number of shrewd Prem investments (certainly no has-beens). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Bryan is on a par with the top 3 or 4 left backs in the premier league? Am I reading this right?i believe that what he was saying is that Bryan is as good as 3 or 4 starting left backs, not the top 3 or 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semblar Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Bryan is on a par with the top 3 or 4 left backs in the premier league? Am I reading this right? I *think* I read it as JB being as good as at least 3-4 of them, probably inferring the worst 3-4 rather than the best edit: beaten to it by city169 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappers Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 You forgot the subs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 I *think* I read it as JB being as good as at least 3-4 of them, probably inferring the worst 3-4 rather than the best edit: beaten to it by city169 Joe Bryan has the potential to make It to the very top. He is not there yet but i am convinced that in 2/3 years time he'll be plying his trade in the Prem. , hopefully with us . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Coxy27 Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Christ. Has anyone actually stuck to the point of the OP? The team consisting of the best players in the championship (doesn't really matter who you individually think they are), would this survive in the premier league? My opinion, yes. Certainly not top 6, but could hold their own and survive. I think there's a quite a big gap in quality between the clubs/squads in the Championship and the Premier League, but there are some really good players in this league that could hold their own a division higher for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 So, so much is about the management of the side, often above playing resources. Last year we fretted about Sheffield United, and the quality players they had, all across their side. Yet they couldn't beat us to the title, despite the strength and depth at their manager's disposal. Similarly; Derby had a brilliant squad last year, yet Bournemouth were the side who took the title, and the Rams didn't even make the play-offs. In fact, our run to the playoffs back in '08 came from a smart use of what was arguably a relatively weak squad, and yet we did very well. The concept of a 'Championship Galacticos' team isn't a bad one; they could certainly give Prem teams a run for their money, but would be a lot to do with their manager, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Sticking to the op that team would finish bottom without doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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