ashton_fan Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Watching the pre-match interview with Sean Dyche reminded me that this is the last season where loans are allowed. From next season we'll only be able to use our own players, this is why some clubs such as QPR and Burnley are building up their squads as there'll be an almighty scramble for players next summer by clubs like us who have used the loan system extensively to make permanent signings. So getting players in the next couple of transfer windows isn't going to get any easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 I must've missed this... When were loans consigned to history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Is it? I must have missed that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 I must've missed this... When were loans consigned to history? Me too - doesn't make much sense to me, where are young lads going to get out and play games now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 I hadn't heard this, it's a ridiculous rule if implemented as itis clearly designed to harm the clubs with less money. It will also get challenged in court by players who will see this as a restraint of trade. And well if you can afford to pay the wages of a bunch of players who might not play until next season then that great. Other clubs need to consider better ways of dealing with the situation such as getting better at developing your own talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Me too - doesn't make much sense to me, where are young lads going to get out and play games now? Let's just hope it isn't paving the way for the introduction of 'B' teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Watching the pre-match interview with Sean Dyche reminded me that this is the last season where loans are allowed. From next season we'll only be able to use our own players, this is why some clubs such as QPR and Burnley are building up their squads as there'll be an almighty scramble for players next summer by clubs like us who have used the loan system extensively to make permanent signings. So getting players in the next couple of transfer windows isn't going to get any easier. I've not seen this mentioned before, I think it would be stupid to end the loan system. Is this actually happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Sounds like OP is having a funny five minutes to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 I missed this too. A quick google indicated that Football League and Conference clubs have been given a year's grace to make emergency 93-day loans. From this, it seems that FIFA only want to scrap emergency loans outside of the transfer windows: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31992432 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 this is all I can find, http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22800755 not the scare story it appears then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Oh! So if we don't use the remaining transfer windows wisely, we could have a rather large problem, although I'm sure that won't be the case. It's the small clubs I feel sorry for, their wage bills are going to hugely increase as many clubs rely on loanees to make up a team. Of course if you're a rich premier league team, then no problem, they'll just pay over inflated players to sit on the bench.e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Saw the same interview - Dyche mentions this. First I'd heard of it too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 So OP is wrong then. Just to confirm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted August 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 If any of you have Player subscriptions watch the pre-match interview with Dyche on the Burnley site, that's where I picked it up from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodburyred Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 I can see the logic if true. Would stop clubs stock piling players and sending them out to learn for the benefit of the parent club. In theory if players want to play they will spread out down the leagues and the ones that are happy to never play will waste a short career. It annoys me that clubs like Chelsea have just as many players out on loan as they do in their squad. If the loan system is abolished they'll have to sell or release them instead. So potentially lots of available players next summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 So FIFA thinks the emergency loans affects the integrity in football, but having a crook in charge doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 So FIFA thinks the emergency loans affects the integrity in football, but having a crook in charge doesn't. Just because FIFA is bent, it doesn't mean Blatter is....when will you get your head around that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 If any of you have Player subscriptions watch the pre-match interview with Dyche on the Burnley site, that's where I picked it up from. Emergency loans and loans are two different things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One BCFC Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 At least if its true on the plus side this could be the demise of Swindle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Haven't emergency loans had several withdrawal dates in the past? I'm sure they have, for the same reasons, and each and every time FIFA has backed down. Wouldn't expect anything different to be honest. Doesn't suit the English game one bit to do away with it. Edit http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/31992432 Yep. I wouldn't expect it to go anytime soon personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Let's just hope it isn't paving the way for the introduction of 'B' teams You can already imagine what Greg Dyke is going to say about this is the reason why we need the B teams league implemented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 I missed this too. A quick google indicated that Football League and Conference clubs have been given a year's grace to make emergency 93-day loans. From this, it seems that FIFA only want to scrap emergency loans outside of the transfer windows: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31992432 Surely, if it's an emergency, it will be outside the transfer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Surely, if it's an emergency, it will be outside the transfer window. There was a bit of hasty editing going on as I didn't necessarily phrase my initial post very well. Of course you're quite right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 You can already imagine what Greg Dyke is going to say about this is the reason why we need the B teams league implemented. If he wants to bring in his masterplan then they can all start at the lowest tier of semi professional football and earn their right to enter the football league. This isn't the 1930s anymore. You can't just elect someone into the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 It's the transfer windows that are the problem, not the emergency loans. There was nothing wrong with the old system, whereby clubs could sign players at any time, up to mid March. Have two windows just creates a mad scramble to sign players as the deadlines approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Just because FIFA is bent, it doesn't mean Blatter is....when will you get your head around that?What's the going rate for compliments about Blatter - a tenner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted August 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Reading this article from when the story broke in 2011 the changes do not effect loans taken out during the transfer windows (ie the longer term ones), but no transfers will be allowed outside of the window period: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/news/8969167/Football-League-clubs-dealt-huge-blow-after-Fifa-decides-emergency-loans-contravene-its-rules.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Reading this article from when the story broke in 2011 the changes do not effect loans taken out during the transfer windows (ie the longer term ones), but no transfers will be allowed outside of the window period:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/news/8969167/Football-League-clubs-dealt-huge-blow-after-Fifa-decides-emergency-loans-contravene-its-rules.htmlThat's exactly right. Emergency loans contravene the transfer window but by a FIFA concession they are permitted. FIFA now want to withdraw that concession but I would bet that club power means it will continue for some time yet. I'm not sure if any other leagues have the emergency loan concession. That is pure ignorance on my part but it certainly isn't a mandated window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 What's the going rate for compliments about Blatter - a tenner? No one knows, you only see the brown envelope......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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