BRISTOL86 Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/34730265 Wondered how long it would be before the racist card came out. So someone who knows nothing about the situation at either club is allowed to essentially insinuate that a criminal act has taken place (if they were sacked because of the colour of their skin). Tony Fernandes (and plenty of football chairpeople who are not white) have sacked plenty of white managers - I wonder what the reaction would be if some nobody starts throwing around allegations that they sacked them because they were white? Idiotic comments like this do so much more harm than good in the battle against discrimination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 Fair play to Frank Sinclair though. He doesn`t mince his words - effectively calls the bloke a cock for saying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 On one side we have Townsend, Roberts and Carlisle. On the other side we have Sinclair and Allison. Fantastic comments from Sinclair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 Why would a club hire a black manager knowing the baggage they will bring with them to the job? It wouldn't be worth it. Idiots like Jason Roberts and Townsend are hardly helping the cause to bring in more BME managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS13 Robin Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 so they weren't sacked because they weren't very good at their jobs then? Pathetic to use the race issue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 Happens all the time in all walks of life and every time someone plays that card without any foundation it chips away a little bit more away at those cases where racism is a genuine issue. These idiots can`t see it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54-46 Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 Have they also created a new category of creed(?). BME. Seriously nauses me right off. They got the sack because they were doing a shit job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 "while QPR director of football Les Ferdinand said that replacing Ramsey was in the "best interests of the club"" That would be the black director of football Les Ferdinand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted November 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 1 minute ago, RedRaw said: "while QPR director of football Les Ferdinand said that replacing Ramsey was in the "best interests of the club"" That would be the black director of football Les Ferdinand Don't let facts get in the way of unsubstantiated slander! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 It`s just all so bloody counter productive. What chairman is going to employ a black manager if this is going to be the unsubstantiated crap that`s going to come their way when the time comes (as it inevitably will) to sack them? Football management is like that for ***** sake! If you get a manager`s job in Sunderland for example you surely don`t expect to still be there in five years even if you`ve got a contract for that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Bcfc Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 The sacking of Chris Powell was very harsh. But it has nothing to do with the colour of his skin. They were exactly the same with Grayson and Lee Clark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Bcfc Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 Chris Ramsey on the other hand was deservedly sacked for doing an awful job at a club with such massive resources. In the summer they already had 5 quality left backs, (including Konchesky who was pinched off us) and Ramsey was still on the hunt for another. Should've been sacked then. Idiotic, horrible mismanagement of a budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfred Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 The same chairmen who sacked these black managers hired them in the first place. Has Roberts and his race-card cronies not considered this? By playing the race card, the likes of Jason Roberts will more likely put off chairmen from hiring black managers in the first place for fear of all the shit they will get if they end up sacking them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 1 hour ago, Aaron-Bcfc said: Chris Ramsey on the other hand was deservedly sacked for doing an awful job at a club with such massive resources. In the summer they already had 5 quality left backs, (including Konchesky who was pinched off us) and Ramsey was still on the hunt for another. Should've been sacked then. Idiotic, horrible mismanagement of a budget. What's that got to do with anything,(agree with everything)he's black so let's kick up a fuss,forget the white managers who have lost their jobs this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 10 hours ago, Aaron-Bcfc said: The sacking of Chris Powell was very harsh. But it has nothing to do with the colour of his skin. They were exactly the same with Grayson and Lee Clark. Exactly, they lasted longer in their roles than some white managers this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 I thought someone had been spying on my nocturnel activities ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 I think Townsend should be made to explain his comment: "I know people will say results aren't right but there's more to it than that." What more is there to it? When Les Ferdinand explains why Ramsey was sacked his argument withers into nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Could be another one after last night... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 10 hours ago, Aaron-Bcfc said: The sacking of Chris Powell was very harsh. But it has nothing to do with the colour of his skin. They were exactly the same with Grayson and Lee Clark. Agree completely. Forgetting the comments of Townsend and Roberts the real issue here though is there are so few non white managers compared to the ratio of players these days so when two (one justifiably, the other not so) lose their jobs on the same day it brings the issue into focus. If the less enlightened on here can't see the obvious disconnect between approx 30-40% of players now not being white and less than 5% of managers being so that reflects on them, doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 10 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Agree completely. Forgetting the comments of Townsend and Roberts the real issue here though is there are so few non white managers compared to the ratio of players these days so when two (one justifiably, the other not so) lose their jobs on the same day it brings the issue into focus. If the less enlightened on here can't see the obvious disconnect between approx 30-40% of players now not being white and less than 5% of managers being so that reflects on them, doesn't it? We can all see it, it`s right in our faces every week and the vast majority would agree that there is disparity. The reasons for that disparity are less than clear though and difficult to define. The point of this thread is that the problem will continue and will be more difficult to address while you have ********* like Townsend and Roberts spouting their knee jerk rubbish every time they perceive some `racism` at work. It is a discussion regarding this rather than the bigger issue which I would like to think most of us are `enlightened` enough to see and have concerns about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCulturalBomb Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 It's simple. If the black guy is the best candidate for the job pick him. If the white guy is the better candidate pick him. Race has nothing to do with it, maybe a simple case of whether or not your a good enough manager/coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 7, 2015 Admin Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 16 hours ago, Red Right Hand said: Fair play to Frank Sinclair though. He doesn`t mince his words - effectively calls the bloke a cock for saying it. It's about time someone came back with comments like this ! NOT ENOUGH GINGER MANAGERS !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 It's a thorny issue alright. I think that Powell was hard done by. I'm sure he'll be in a job again soon. Ramsey is an inexperienced fella who was thrown in at the deep end last season. He probably only got the permanent job because they didn't get the candidates they wanted. Hopefully he'll get another job somewhere else and do well, seems like a good guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Discrimination is a necessary function for every living entity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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