AirlieBeachRed Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 I bought these a number of years ago. Clay pint and half pint with Bristol City on it. Unfortunately have never been able to find anything out about them. Does anyone have any idea where/when they would have been made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride of the west Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 I can't remember anything like this being officially produced. I don't think they are antique because I'm sure we didnt use the 1897 within the badge until the centenary year 100 yrs later. I could be wrong though. Nice pieces either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirlieBeachRed Posted November 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 thx. Yes I had never seen them officially produced either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 Where did you buy them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Roper Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 I have a mug same as smaller one ,think it was bought from the club shop but not 100% sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 I like those. I could do those justice by refilling hourly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 11, 2015 Admin Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 I thought they were in the club shop a few seasons back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atyeo's Love Child Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 I've got the larger one, and initially used it for tea... but a pint was too much! Now just use on the rare occasion that I drink cloudy cider at home, might leave it up at my local next summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 I'm pretty sure they were in the club shop, but I'm talking years back now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirlieBeachRed Posted November 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 I got them from ebay about a decade ago I think it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 Due to the 1897 mistake they are post 1994. Prior to 1994, indeed for a hundred years prior to that every source, including the club itself had our formation correctly as in 1894. The 1897 date is a post 1994 construct applied as a marketing opportunity by a new board of directors who weren't in situ in 1994 to celebrate the centenary. They then changed the date to coincide with Bristol City turning pro in 1897 and dropping the South End at the end of their name and replacing it with City. If every club in the country adopted this criteria then virtually every club would be younger than they in fact are. We are the only club who wants to be thought of as younger for some reason. Just obtain any football reference book or City merchandise pre 1995 and 100% of them will list our formation as in 1894. Not one would have it as 1897. Nobody at all would've associated our club with that date of formation (1897) prior to that. Thus the mugs are post 1994. Unfortunately, they aren't the only mugs as many newer followers of City in the past 20 years have fallen for this spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 10 minutes ago, handsofclay1909 said: Due to the 1897 mistake they are post 1994. Prior to 1994, indeed for a hundred years prior to that every source, including the club itself had our formation correctly as in 1894. The 1897 date is a post 1994 construct applied as a marketing opportunity by a new board of directors who weren't in situ in 1994 to celebrate the centenary. They then changed the date to coincide with Bristol City turning pro in 1897 and dropping the South End at the end of their name and replacing it with City. If every club in the country adopted this criteria then virtually every club would be younger than they in fact are. We are the only club who wants to be thought of as younger for some reason. Just obtain any football reference book or City merchandise pre 1995 and 100% of them will list our formation as in 1894. Not one would have it as 1897. Nobody at all would've associated our club with that date of formation (1897) prior to that. Thus the mugs are post 1994. Unfortunately, they aren't the only mugs as many newer followers of City in the past 20 years have fallen for this spin. And now the stands are being renamed in a way that makes our relationship with Europe look like a democratic process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 I got one from the club shop years ago, I'm guessing mid 90's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornbury Red Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 4 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: And now the stands are being renamed in a way that makes sure the club generates as much income as possible. Fixed for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 5 minutes ago, Thornbury Red said: Fixed for you! That, for me, is an aside. If they wanted to do that (which may be fine by most), then do it openly. If income runs roughshod over everything then your excuse can be used in anything they do. Do you have a line drawn anywhere? What's sacred to you? The club name? Club colours? Ground name? Badges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornbury Red Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 Problem is the modern game isn't about the supporters anymore. Doesn't really matter what you or I think, maximising income to allow us to compete with the numerous bigger clubs at this level is of paramount importance. Even more so since FFP came in. Its likely that at some point in the future Ashton Gate will be renamed and be sponsored, I don't agree with it but that is the way of the world unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 2 minutes ago, Thornbury Red said: Problem is the modern game isn't about the supporters anymore. Doesn't really matter what you or I think, maximising income to allow us to compete with the numerous bigger clubs at this level is of paramount importance. Even more so since FFP came in. Its likely that at some point in the future Ashton Gate will be renamed and be sponsored, I don't agree with it but that is the way of the world unfortunately. A distinctly pessimistic tone, although I can understand it. If you are in the Premier League - and someone is ready to fill any gap you create - I can see that any fan's opinion matters for almost nothing. However, in the case of Bristol City, until such time as they have more fans wanting to attend than seats available they have a careful balancing act. Whatever they do - and even if the decision is predetermined - a little more clarity would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nongazeuse Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 Still using this mug for my coffee at work - bought from club shop about 8 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 Different perspective, but only if you have good owners in place. A club could use sponsorship and naming rights to keep down fans costs. Bayern have allowed an insurance group to buy into the club and name the stadium, and as most know their ST's are very cheap. The club has stated that a couple of extra million gained in fleecing (my word) the fans would mean little to a club of their stature . If the Sun life Ashton Gate meant that ST price were kept down and so got another 4-5k sold, who'd complain. Scratch that someone would . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 2 hours ago, 1960maaan said: Different perspective, but only if you have good owners in place. A club could use sponsorship and naming rights to keep down fans costs. Bayern have allowed an insurance group to buy into the club and name the stadium, and as most know their ST's are very cheap. The club has stated that a couple of extra million gained in fleecing (my word) the fans would mean little to a club of their stature . If the Sun life Ashton Gate meant that ST price were kept down and so got another 4-5k sold, who'd complain. Scratch that someone would . Arguably that might help to minimise increases in prices. I think there is scarcely any hope of any UK club changing its pricing model to fit Bayern's approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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