RedRock Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Now, we all love him but.... having watched the highlights, should not a Championship-standard keeper have made a better fist of stopping all four goals? He seems to be shrinking in size every week!! Yes, some limp-wristed defending going on in front of him, but through him, on his near post, maybe trying to get finger-tips to the ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 He is the very definition of a frustrating player. For every game like he had at Huddersfield he has two like last night. From day one at the club he's never inspired confidence. He looks utterly tiny compared to most keepers you see. I don't know if it's just his build as allegedly he's not far off 6 foot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 12 minutes ago, Moor2Sea said: Now, we all love him but.... having watched the highlights, should not a Championship-standard keeper have made a better fist of stopping all four goals? He seems to be shrinking in size every week!! Yes, some limp-wristed defending going on in front of him, but through him, on his near post, maybe trying to get finger-tips to the ball? Not sure what he could of done with goals 1 and 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 I don't really know on this one. To me our current plight looks no different to when Heaton or Gerken were in goal. And they're both doing pretty well for themselves new. Sometimes you look at it and think could he have done better, but really the case has to be made for suicidal defending and woeful tracking back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbored Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 The Derby fans loved him as well as they were singing "One Frankie Fileding..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Goal four - no chance. The rest possibly but it is more his all round game than his shot-stopping that is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodburyred Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 I personally don't rate his all round game. Pulls off some absolute worldies sometimes but in general is someone who can be improved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 The issue for me is that he has no real competition. Yes we loaned in Hamer but I guess he was thought to be either too expensive/no better/not needed so he went back. Yes I know we can loan in an emergency keeper pretty easily, and maybe we can save a wage, but I doubt if many clubs operate without at least competition for every place. It can't do a player much good to not to have to challenge for a game. I think Frankie has been praising young Max o'Leary recently, of course he is, he's no real threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Daniel Bentley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 1 minute ago, RedM said: The issue for me is that he has no real competition. Yes we loaned in Hamer but I guess he was thought to be either too expensive/no better/not needed so he went back. Yes I know we can loan in an emergency keeper pretty easily, and maybe we can save a wage, but I doubt if many clubs operate without at least competition for every place. It can't do a player much good to not to have to challenge for a game. I think Frankie has been praising young Max o'Leary recently, of course he is, he's no real threat. A good point well made. Too many in the team don't have competition which again brings us back to the woeful summer recruitment. Off the top of my head, some of our weakest performers: Pack - Reid (unproven at this level and not a natural deep midfielder) Flint -Only Baker and Moore... (all of whom are already playing!) Freeman - Callum Robinson (who? Is he still here?) Or Cox (last seen in the bermuda triangle) Bryan - No natural cover (Williams round peg in square hole) And you are absolutely right that Frank shouldn't be guaranteed his jersey but he is. Which goes against what cotts said preseason and when we signed hamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Frankie was in the Football League team of the week a few days ago and was good enough to be in the full England squad when he was younger, yet people think he's not good enough for BCFC? As others have said, Heaton and Gherken struggled with a useless defence in front of them but doing fine at this level now, he's the least of our problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Like many of our team , they are great lads , willing to give their all for the club and their team mates but is their ' all ' enough ? The league table says not . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 I"m not going to slag the man off but we do need some serious competition between the sticks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 8 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Like many of our team , they are great lads , willing to give their all for the club and their team mates but is their ' all ' enough ? The league table says not . the league table says that what we have is currently enough, but only barely. Or has an extra relegation spot been added and only you told? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Love him as a character IMO Simply not good enough - lets in too many softies for me and nowhere near imposing enough Does show brilliant reactions at time and pulls off the odd Worldy but rock solid consistency and a presence is what I want in my keeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 another basso maybe? are there any foreign ones available 6 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Love him as a character IMO Simply not good enough - lets in too many softies for me and nowhere near imposing enough Does show brilliant reactions at time and pulls off the odd Worldy but rock solid consistency and a presence is what I want in my keeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 One of the least of our worries at the moment, The midfield is a complete embarrassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Can't believe that it's so difficult to sort the keeper - Most premier clubs have 3 or even 4 keepers vying for one spot - take your pick - up and coming or experienced old head By coincidence heard Shay Given on radio - coming back from injury Dont think we'd get him on loan ( Tho he will want some game time) but they are out there - SC clearly thinks FF is good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne allisons tongues Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 He is a great reflex save keeper, point blank range. But gets beat so often from long distance (outside of box) every one can't be a worldie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 37 minutes ago, City169 said: the league table says that what we have is currently enough, but only barely. Or has an extra relegation spot been added and only you told? Ok , and this season's going sooo well we don't need to improve the squad . Steve Lansdown will be delighted . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 1 minute ago, Major Isewater said: Ok , and this season's going sooo well we don't need to improve the squad . Steve Lansdown will be delighted . ah, the old "putting words in people mouth" trick. Don't be dishonest, at no point did I say that the season is going well, nor did I say the squad doesn't need improving. In fact I explicitly put "barely" to show that we are struggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Colby-Tit Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 45 minutes ago, redsquirrel said: another basso maybe? are there any foreign ones available I still miss Basso - maybe not the best keeper in the world, but his attitude and belief seemed to rub off on all around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 17 minutes ago, City169 said: ah, the old "putting words in people mouth" trick. Don't be dishonest, at no point did I say that the season is going well, nor did I say the squad doesn't need improving. In fact I explicitly put "barely" to show that we are struggling. Where i come from ' Bristol ' , ' OK ' is a sign of agreement . I agree with you that we are good enough to be presently a whisker outside the relegation zone but obviously we must improve so the 'all ' that our smashing young team are giving is , as i stated , perhaps not enough . You were being a little pedantic in your original reply but that's OK . What i don't appreciate is being called ' dishonest ' . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Average championship keeper, he's kept us in it a few times this season. People being too harsh on him, yesterday one of the goals was a shocker yes, but Ince was allowed to run unchallenged for ages & should've never got that far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atyeo's Love Child Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 IMO Should have given Hamer more of a go. FF not quite good enough in general play & only comes for the very easy crosses (understandable with his lack of inches)... not the sort of keeper that gives confidence to defenders. Not under much pressure last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsRed Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 2 hours ago, ashton_fan said: Frankie was in the Football League team of the week a few days ago and was good enough to be in the full England squad when he was younger, yet people think he's not good enough for BCFC? As others have said, Heaton and Gherken struggled with a useless defence in front of them but doing fine at this level now, he's the least of our problems. Tom Heaton was immense. He saved us an awful lot when he played. Staggered people hated him mate. Typical City fans. Skuse, Bolasie, Pitman, Gerken, Heaton etc etc all 'not good enough' in eyes of some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 He isn't good enough, full stop. His save attempts against Fulham were abysmal earlier in the season. After the Cardiff game I said that if you had switched the keepers before the start we'd have lost handsomely. If SC really thinks Frankie is the best we can get then we may as well write the season off. Or get rid of SC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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