Dynamite Red Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I see the usual miserable posters and broken records are back on here screaming, whatever Cotterill's future this was a man who saved us from relegation and won us our first title in God knows how many years plus the JPT. Yes some may want him out but some of the petty jibes and bitching is uncalled for. The summer transfer window was an total disaster and has left us with a squad that can't rest or drop out of form players, the whole of the clubs management need to take responsibility for this. But please let's have touch of realism and grace, unless we have someone better lined up then let's get behind him and the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman Mao Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 lack of respect is giving professionals 1-5 mins off the bench to try and alter a match If I was Reid I'd be handing in a transfer request, if I was Cox I'd be furious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted December 28, 2015 Author Share Posted December 28, 2015 Neither players are good enough in my opinion but there to fill the bench due to the lack of players signed in the summer. Whether you disagree with him or want him out, let's try and be respectful of what he has achieved at this club and not resort to some of the bollocks being posted here. I am on the fence but unless we can recruit better then I will back him and the team to the hilt, some on here can't wait to stick the knife in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 17 minutes ago, Dynamite Red said: I see the usual miserable posters and broken records are back on here screaming, whatever Cotterill's future this was a man who saved us from relegation and won us our first title in God knows how many years plus the JPT. Yes some may want him out but some of the petty jibes and bitching is uncalled for. The summer transfer window was an total disaster and has left us with a squad that can't rest or drop out of form players, the whole of the clubs management need to take responsibility for this. But please let's have touch of realism and grace, unless we have someone better lined up then let's get behind him and the team. Oh **** off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepywall Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Terrible lack of respect for the hundreds or thousands that travel the country and have to endure pathetic performances and results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 2 minutes ago, 'keepuplino' said: Oh **** off Very fitting considering the thread title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 1 minute ago, weepywall said: Terrible lack of respect for the hundreds or thousands that travel the country and have to endure pathetic performances and results. Er they have a choice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 1 minute ago, 29AR said: Very fitting considering the thread title. I apologise if you find it offensive but it was a very fitting answer considering the circumstances!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 4 minutes ago, Super said: Er they have a choice! That they do,as they do to be moaning like broken records as the op said or happy clappers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 5 minutes ago, 'keepuplino' said: I apologise if you find it offensive but it was a very fitting answer considering the circumstances!! Not offended - I don't need to be on DR's behalf, just a quip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 9 minutes ago, Dynamite Red said: Neither players are good enough in my opinion but there to fill the bench due to the lack of players signed in the summer. ... which is exactly what SC said he would not do at the time. I'm not calling for his head, and think what he needs is a war chest to make a go of keeping us here, but you cannot surely be advocating keeping him just because of why has come before? If he dose not strengthen, and is not proactive in attempting to correct course (because today's result shows us we are going backwards, not forwards) immediately, I'm sorry but that sort of sentiment will see us weakly relegated back to League One, making me all his work irrelevant. That cannot be allowed to happen without significantly more fight being shown; respect be dammed, I'm sorry to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat Fastard Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 26 minutes ago, Dynamite Red said: I see the usual miserable posters and broken records are back on here screaming, whatever Cotterill's future this was a man who saved us from relegation and won us our first title in God knows how many years plus the JPT. Yes some may want him out but some of the petty jibes and bitching is uncalled for. The summer transfer window was an total disaster and has left us with a squad that can't rest or drop out of form players, the whole of the clubs management need to take responsibility for this. But please let's have touch of realism and grace, unless we have someone better lined up then let's get behind him and the team. Listening to Cotts interview on Player, he knows that he has a tricky situation to manage the players - because he does not know who else he can get in. With a hostile and non supportive fan base, the job is even more difficult. I, for one, will go on supporting whilst the management get on with running the club. Cotts has achieved wonders in the two years he has been here and deserves support in difficult circumstances. Fair weather support will never achieve a strong and successful club because we will wobble with every difficulty. This is a time to be resolute and try to make the job of running the club easier rather than more difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 23 minutes ago, Chairman Mao said: lack of respect is giving professionals 1-5 mins off the bench to try and alter a match If I was Reid I'd be handing in a transfer request, if I was Cox I'd be furious If I was your wife I would be distraught , joining a dating site and making an appointment at the solicitors tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted December 28, 2015 Author Share Posted December 28, 2015 I'm not asking for sentiment but I am asking for us to be respectful towards someone who has transformed the club, I'm no sure he is the right man to take us forward but can at least be respectful of what he has done. keepuplino maybe pm me if you want an argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 7 minutes ago, robin4ever said: If I was your wife I would be distraught , joining a dating site and making an appointment at the solicitors tomorrow Why attack the poster and not his opinion if you disagree with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hortonred Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 19 minutes ago, Dynamite Red said: Neither players are good enough in my opinion but there to fill the bench due to the lack of players signed in the summer. Whether you disagree with him or want him out, let's try and be respectful of what he has achieved at this club and not resort to some of the bollocks being posted here. I am on the fence but unless we can recruit better then I will back him and the team to the hilt, some on here can't wait to stick the knife in. I would love to know how you have concluded that Cox is not good enough.He has not been given a chance by the bloke who signed him.And how does the fact that he did a great job last year mean that criticism of this embarrassment of a season not be allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 3 minutes ago, Dynamite Red said: I'm not asking for sentiment but I am asking for us to be respectful towards someone who has transformed the club, I'm no sure he is the right man to take us forward but can at least be respectful of what he has done. keepuplino maybe pm me if you want an argument. transformed the club? My mum could have got us promoted. Only club in league 1 with bigger budget was Sheffield Utd. We will be straight back there this season. Lose against reading and were doomed. His substitutes and stubbornness is a sacking offence alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 9 minutes ago, robin4ever said: If I was your wife I would be distraught , joining a dating site and making an appointment at the solicitors tomorrow See you've reverted to type there R4E! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 3 minutes ago, Spoons said: transformed the club? My mum could have got us promoted. Only club in league 1 with bigger budget was Sheffield Utd. We will be straight back there this season. Lose against reading and were doomed. His substitutes and stubbornness is a sacking offence alone. Fair play for the stupidest post today. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted December 28, 2015 Author Share Posted December 28, 2015 Yep the bitches are out in force. Never disappoint with you whining. Happy Xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 37 minutes ago, Chairman Mao said: lack of respect is giving professionals 1-5 mins off the bench to try and alter a match If I was Reid I'd be handing in a transfer request, if I was Cox I'd be furious Absolutely spot on. And is the proof that Cotts is a loyal, stubborn arsehole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyolly Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 29 minutes ago, 'keepuplino' said: Oh **** off What an incredibly insightful and well thought out post. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 4 minutes ago, Spoons said: transformed the club? My mum could have got us promoted. Only club in league 1 with bigger budget was Sheffield Utd. We will be straight back there this season. Lose against reading and were doomed. His substitutes and stubbornness is a sacking offence alone. Exactly this. He hasn't transformed anything at all. We're in a worse position than we we were at this stage the last time we were in the Championship I believe, so he has transformed nothing all. Well done for getting us promoted and a day out at Wembley in the Mickey Mouse cup but if he had actually transformed us we would not be staring relegation in the face as it stands at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 28 minutes ago, 'keepuplino' said: Oh **** off No need for personal abuse to a poster who was just expressing his opinion, tempted to push the button; show a bit of respect to a fellow fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 8 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Why attack the poster and not his opinion if you disagree with it? Robin is the same after every game.... ignore him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 1 minute ago, allyolly said: What an incredibly insightful and well thought out post. Well done. 1 minute ago, allyolly said: What an incredibly insightful and well thought out post. Well done. Who asked you, you ******* cock... Happy clapping****!!! 1 minute ago, glos old boy said: No need for personal abuse to a poster who was just expressing his opinion, tempted to push the button; show a bit of respect to a fellow fan Push the button babs, I'm done with this shit!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 1 minute ago, Nomad said: Robin is the same after every game.... ignore him. Fair enough, cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tiger Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Cockrill has to go. He is deluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Sad how some people only turn up on here when we lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 2 minutes ago, Tiger said: Cockrill has to go. He is deluded. He certainly has nothing to crow about today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 2 minutes ago, Super said: Sad how some people only turn up on here when we lose. Be a pretty quiet forum if they didn't at the moment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 38 minutes ago, Chairman Mao said: lack of respect is giving professionals 1-5 mins off the bench to try and alter a match If I was Reid I'd be handing in a transfer request, if I was Cox I'd be furious Unfortunately there is resonatiion here. I could not care less about Cox, but Burns must have had enough. Sticking with a winning team you can see, but sticking with this is the definition of madness. We all know our options can be considered limited, but that will not change if you don't get game time. I am very much in the SC camp, but I am now tired, I didn't even bother to listen, knowing full well we would be hammered. Got my ticket for Satdee and dreading it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Maybe it's time to split this forum into the 2 factions that clearly exist : www.ot.co.uk for the disillusioned and www.ib.co.uk for the happy clappers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyolly Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 4 minutes ago, 'keepuplino' said: Who asked you, you ******* cock... Happy clapping****!!! Push the button babs, I'm done with this shit!!! Not sure about happy clapping mate. Good to see GCSE students have a good command of the ******** symbol these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted December 28, 2015 Author Share Posted December 28, 2015 2 minutes ago, Nomad said: Maybe it's time to split this forum into the 2 factions that clearly exist : www.ot.co.uk for the disillusioned and www.ib.co.uk for the happy clappers ? Or maybe those who can just be civil and not resort to petty jibes or insults, whether you for or against, respect costs nothing, lost on to many on here, what a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 3 minutes ago, Dynamite Red said: Or maybe those who can just be civil and not resort to petty jibes or insults, whether you for or against, respect costs nothing, lost on to many on here, what a shame. Sentence makes no sense. those who can be civil and not resort to petty jibes can what ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Reid has been better than Freeman in the little time he's had. I've seen Cox for about 15 minutes and he assisted Kodjia albeit at the end of a drubbing by Fulham. I don't know how you can see either aren't good enough when others in the same position haven't been good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 22 minutes ago, Dynamite Red said: Yep the bitches are out in force. Never disappoint with you whining. Happy Xmas. I like this post for the yellow happy clapper just like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I don't think there is anyone who doesn't want Cotterill to succeed but he cannot be unaccountable for the mess we are in. Yes the summer transfer activity was poor but he also let the likes of Cunningham go who would be an idea left back in a 4-4-2. He's likely to be PNEs player of the year. What happened with Fredericks? Nobody seems to have asked. We have then loaned in Baker, Moore, Robinson, Bennett and Cox. Two of those have had a positive effect on the team. The other 3 have sat on the bench. What the **** is the point of that? The lack of making a sub before the game is lost or three points thrown away is the most infuriating. We have these loan players, we have people who can make an impact like Bryan did against QPR. So for god sake use them Steve, rather than churning out the same bullshit excuses week in week out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 We are getting lots of reports about this thread, and only this thread (at least you've manged to keep all the abuse together, so thanks for that). so we have a choice, close the thread and put people on mod preview or you can take a step back and not contribute or you can try to make amends. yes we are all frustrated and unhappy at different levels. The club we love is in a bad place at the moment, any where between a sticky patch to terminal decline judging by posts and feelings on here at the moment. I think it's great we can have an opinion, but there really is no need to tear into eachother over a few words on a forum is there, is there??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 51 minutes ago, Dynamite Red said: Neither players are good enough in my opinion but there to fill the bench due to the lack of players signed in the summer. Whether you disagree with him or want him out, let's try and be respectful of what he has achieved at this club and not resort to some of the bollocks being posted here. I am on the fence but unless we can recruit better then I will back him and the team to the hilt, some on here can't wait to stick the knife in. So Pack, Freeman and Wilbs would definitely played so much more than Ayling in Packsposition, Santa instead of Freeman and Wilbs who was completely knackered after 10 mins, why oh why not scare the shit out of teams with pace and and outlet in using Bobby Reid. Not sure if you were there today but it was soulless and spineless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 2 minutes ago, YorkshireSection said: So Pack, Freeman and Wilbs would definitely played so much more than Ayling in Packsposition, Santa instead of Freeman and Wilbs who was completely knackered after 10 mins, why oh why not scare the shit out of teams with pace and and outlet in using Bobby Reid. Not sure if you were there today but it was soulless and spineless. Santa? ! Not sure I'm getting your banter, old chap... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 3 minutes ago, RedM said: We are getting lots of reports about this thread, and only this thread (at least you've manged to keep it all together, so thanks for that). so we have a choice, close the thread and put people on mod preview or you can take a step back and not contribute or you can try to make amends. yes we are all frustrated and unhappy at different levels. The club we love is in a bad place at the moment, any where between a sticky patch to terminal decline judging by posts and feelings on here at the moment. I think it's great we can have an opinion, but there really is no need to tear into eachother over a few words on a forum is there, is there??? Apologies if I've caused offence, Highly pee'd of about this whole season, the summer transfer debacle and Cotts excuses and dam right poor management.. I'm done lads, enjoy your weekends.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted December 28, 2015 Author Share Posted December 28, 2015 6 minutes ago, Tomarse said: I don't think there is anyone who doesn't want Cotterill to succeed but he cannot be unaccountable for the mess we are in. Yes the summer transfer activity was poor but he also let the likes of Cunningham go who would be an idea left back in a 4-4-2. He's likely to be PNEs player of the year. What happened with Fredericks? Nobody seems to have asked. We have then loaned in Baker, Moore, Robinson, Bennett and Cox. Two of those have had a positive effect on the team. The other 3 have sat on the bench. What the **** is the point of that? The lack of making a sub before the game is lost or three points thrown away is the most infuriating. We have these loan players, we have people who can make an impact like Bryan did against QPR. So for god sake use them Steve, rather than churning out the same bullshit excuses week in week out. I agree, like I said it's not a Cotts in out thread more about some of the remarks made about him. Just think he deserves a little more respect for what he has achieved. I am far from a happy clapper but no point hitting the panic button unless we have someone better lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 29 minutes ago, 'keepuplino' said: Who asked you, you ******* cock... Happy clapping****!!! Push the button babs, I'm done with this shit!!! No problem your wish is my command Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I don't understand the Cox thing. It seems it's been said by SC that Cox is fat and unfit - why is he here then? Who sanctioned his transfer? Surely we had an idea as to his condition? Things like that, waste on wages and no impact on the squad, are absolutely baffling and questions need to be asked about this. Was it SC's decision? Keith Burt? What's going on? Add to that Fredricks, Hamer, Robinson.. We've had more problematic transfer activity with individual players (4 negative; Cox, Robinson, Hamer, Fredricks) than successful (3 positive; Kodjia, Baker, Bennett) this summer and that is appalling. (I'm discounting Moore as I feel we've been unlucky with his injury timing - call him a neutral impact) No one is above criticism and I feel in the main, people do show respect and decorum. Obviously tensions run high after a game but things aren't too bad. Wastage like that though, for me, is unacceptable and I hope there's a full inquest about this at the club, we simply can't waste transfers like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 What is offensive about this thread. The players were crap today and the manager looked like he couldn't give a crap apart from where he clapped the following few hundred, how he had the audacity to do that was beyond me. He needs to do the decent thing and walk. great in league 1, totally useless ion the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 9 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: I don't understand the Cox thing. It seems it's been said by SC that Cox is fat and unfit - why is he here then? Who sanctioned his transfer? Surely we had an idea as to his condition? Things like that, waste on wages and no impact on the squad, are absolutely baffling and questions need to be asked about this. Was it SC's decision? Keith Burt? What's going on? Add to that Fredricks, Hamer, Robinson.. We've had more problematic transfer activity with individual players (4 negative; Cox, Robinson, Hamer, Fredricks) than successful (3 positive; Kodjia, Baker, Bennett) this summer and that is appalling. (I'm discounting Moore as I feel we've been unlucky with his injury timing - call him a neutral impact) No one is above criticism and I feel in the main, people do show respect and decorum. Obviously tensions run high after a game but things aren't too bad. Wastage like that though, for me, is unacceptable and I hope there's a full inquest about this at the club, we simply can't waste transfers like that. Well put. If it was not SC's decision he should be gone (for having no balls and allowing someone else to bring in players). If it was his decision, he should be gone for bringing in players and not using them. I mean - how many dud's can one guy bring in ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 No lack of respect from me towards Cotterill but when I see other managers change things during the game, either by formation or the use of subs which has an effect, I get very worried and frustrated that we cannot/will not do the same. I wish Cotterill would use his subs, try every trick in the book, learn new tricks (you are never too old) and then once he has done all that then see what happens. At the moment he isn't using all the options available to him and that's poor management. Ok the bench players might not be great, but they might be if given a chance. What a waste of time and money for the loan players. Ruddy hell, I am stubborn, I really am. But Cotterill can out do me and that's saying something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I don't care about Cotterill. This is a miss managed club and seems to be a forever miss managed club. Apart from the fans no one cares a shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_b Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Tom and RedM have outlined my thoughts on Cotts during games so I won't duplicate that. I respect Cotts for getting us back out of League One with a squad he reshaped and built himself. I respect him for playing exciting football in doing so. I respect him most for forcing me to change from my initial reaction to his appointment to actually liking the guy. But that means nothing if HIS management takes us back down. We have a small squad. I would guess at least one third would look at moving on if we drop. So therefore we are back with a rebuilding job as per when he joined us. With a massive half empty stadium. That is not acceptable and it is the consequence of inaction that makes me frustrated with Cotts and either he needs to properly sort out the squad in Jan (remember Cox, Bennett & Moore all go from Jan 3rd!) or let someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I would have a lot more respect for Cotterill if he didn't come out with the same old rubbish after each poor result. The reality is that much like his beloved Freeman, League 1 appears to be his natural level & now he appears clueless against better opposition. He is not a proactive manager & that is just compounding the situation. So Steve I would have a lot more respect for you if you came out with the truth & also showed some evidence of being a manager who can change things & have a plan B. Crikey I remember GJ playing 3 formations in 1 match & making a substitution after 20 minutes as he could see it wasn't working. But "Mr Stubborn" just wants to out score the opposition with a team that cannot seem to score from open play. When I see that you have learnt some lessons from what has happened so far this season then my respect might return. But right now on the evidence of the last 24 matches, I find it very hard to believe that you can keep us in this division. I would love you to prove me wrong laying open attractive football but that seems an ever more distant likelihood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Jose won the Premiership last year, he got sacked. We have less points now, than we did the last time we were in the Championship after 24 games, McInnes was sacked iearly in January, we were relegated. Since the end of last season, we seem to believe our solutions are just around the corner, hopefully this time they are. Our manager has repeatedly told us that he is getting the maximum from this group of players, so we either need to appoint a manager who can get more from this group or sign some players that he believes in and trusts. Some decisive action is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 30 minutes ago, cynic said: TBF, that rumour (as I understand it) was started by some bloke on the radio who said SC said it at the AGM (not that there has been an AGM as far as I know) after asking for the cameras to be turned off. Bloke wasn't even at the imaginary AGM, it was his son apparently. Twentyman didn't believe him and gave him a chance to retract it but the bloke carried on with it as if it was 100% true. Now, it may well be that Cox is overweight and unfit, I have no idea, but I wouldn't think that SC would be stupid enough to say it to a bunch of supporters. IF Cox is overweight and unfit, then I'd agree that someone needs their arse kicked. That's where I've got it from, a strange call really. Couldn't imagine SC ever saying something like that "off camera" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I don't think there is an inordinate amount of disrespect knocking around for Cotterill. The sort of stuff being paraded is the usual stuff you'd get for any manager of any team who are struggling the way we currently are. There are a lot of people suggesting he should be given more leniency due to what he has achieved with us. Everyone I know is more than grateful to Cotterill for what he has given us in his 2 years here. But we do live in a 'what have you done for me lately' world these days, and I don't think we should continue applying large doses of sentiment to SC. Whatever he achieved last year is consigned to the history books. What matters now is what is happening now. Cotterill should be subject to the same criticism as any other manager who would be in this position now. No room for sentiment in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagon Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 3 hours ago, weepywall said: Terrible lack of respect for the hundreds or thousands that travel the country and have to endure pathetic performances and results. Unfortunately someone has to win, lose or draw. We had plenty of good times last season. Time dig in and take it and come out fighting back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted December 28, 2015 Author Share Posted December 28, 2015 31 minutes ago, MRSATAN said: go away and see if you can see once youve pulled your head out the arse of the golden one Another one who can't read a simple forum post. Where have I said I am a SC fan. Just asking for a modicum of respect for what he has done and not calling him a village idiot etc.. Clearly my values and respect are lost on a few. Forget it. Everyone's a**** is clearly order of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 2 minutes ago, Dynamite Red said: Another one who can't read a simple forum post. Where have I said I am a SC fan. Just asking for a modicum of respect for what he has done and not calling him a village idiot etc.. Clearly my values and respect are lost on a few. Forget it. Everyone's a**** is clearly order of the day. Are people really being disrespectful to Cotts, I've never insulted the man who's gave me and my son a great year last season. What i have done is called for his head because i don't think he's doing a great job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 6 minutes ago, Harry said: I don't think there is an inordinate amount of disrespect knocking around for Cotterill. The sort of stuff being paraded is the usual stuff you'd get for any manager of any team who are struggling the way we currently are. There are a lot of people suggesting he should be given more leniency due to what he has achieved with us. Everyone I know is more than grateful to Cotterill for what he has given us in his 2 years here. But we do live in a 'what have you done for me lately' world these days, and I don't think we should continue applying large doses of sentiment to SC. Whatever he achieved last year is consigned to the history books. What matters now is what is happening now. Cotterill should be subject to the same criticism as any other manager who would be in this position now. No room for sentiment in football. SC has to work under the restraints put on him by his boss and the players we have here. If SC judges that players in reserve are no better than those already playing we should go with that as we don't work/see them everyday. We need some more first team players on board no doubt, if the cost is to high then SC has to go with what we have, Changing managers would make no difference if we want to play with the big boys we have to PAY with the big boys, and that isn't down to our present manager our any future one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted December 28, 2015 Author Share Posted December 28, 2015 5 minutes ago, 'keepuplino' said: Are people really being disrespectful to Cotts, I've never insulted the man who's gave me and my son a great year last season. What i have done is called for his head because i don't think he's doing a great job I have no issue with people wanting him out but petty and idiotic remarks are unhelpful. Some of the crap on here is frankly a joke for a man who has done his best for us and for what ever reason has not got the players in the summer that he wanted. Where the blame lies that is another issue but simply asking for a bit of respect for a man who saved us from relegation then got us promoted with a record tally and won the JPT deserves a bit more respect than some comments on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 3 minutes ago, Dynamite Red said: I have no issue with people wanting him out but petty and idiotic remarks are unhelpful. Some of the crap on here is frankly a joke for a man who has done his best for us and for what ever reason has not got the players in the summer that he wanted. Where the blame lies that is another issue but simply asking for a bit of respect for a man who saved us from relegation then got us promoted with a record tally and won the JPT deserves a bit more respect than some comments on here. I don't think I've seen much disrespect - could you link some in? Genuinely interested as I don't feel like I've seen much personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howey_ducky Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 3 hours ago, 'keepuplino' said: Who asked you, you ******* cock... Happy clapping****!!! Push the button babs, I'm done with this shit!!! Jog on quietly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Whether you think SC is the right man for the job or not, based on our current form is fine, I accept opinion. What I cannot stomach is the abuse the man has got on here and social media as a whole. Idiot, clueless, waste of space etc. No matter what happens he should have the "respect" of the fans, even if he is to be removed. a lot of bandwagon jumpers giving him abuse when only 6monthd ago he did this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aa_bcfc Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 4 hours ago, Chairman Mao said: lack of respect is giving professionals 1-5 mins off the bench to try and alter a match If I was Reid I'd be handing in a transfer request, if I was Cox I'd be furious I hope he does. Nowhere near good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted December 28, 2015 Author Share Posted December 28, 2015 8 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: Whether you think SC is the right man for the job or not, based on our current form is fine, I accept opinion. What I cannot stomach is the abuse the man has got on here and social media as a whole. Idiot, clueless, waste of space etc. No matter what happens he should have the "respect" of the fans, even if he is to be removed. a lot of bandwagon jumpers giving him abuse when only 6monthd ago he did this You can't educate some people. Hey ho, up the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappers Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I would not call it a lack of respect, just debate about the best way forward. The squad is too small, we have no flexibility, and SC seems to only trust his first XI. We are inflexible, so opponents can set themselves knowing exactly how we will play, not sure if that is SC or just lack of options. Let's face it, those on the bench have hardly made the most of limited opportunities, Bryan excepted. It's a tough call, stick of try someone new, I'm very undecided. Whatever, we need to get it right on January, which is a lot easier said than done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 4 hours ago, REDOXO said: Unfortunately there is resonatiion here. I could not care less about Cox, but Burns must have had enough. Sticking with a winning team you can see, but sticking with this is the definition of madness. We all know our options can be considered limited, but that will not change if you don't get game time. I am very much in the SC camp, but I am now tired, I didn't even bother to listen, knowing full well we would be hammered. Got my ticket for Satdee and dreading it! Agreed. Tiny squad. Losing a habit. Hardly a meaningful substitution ever made. Where's the logic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 8 minutes ago, Chappers said: I would not call it a lack of respect, just debate about the best way forward. The squad is too small, we have no flexibility, and SC seems to only trust his first XI. We are inflexible, so opponents can set themselves knowing exactly how we will play, not sure if that is SC or just lack of options. Let's face it, those on the bench have hardly made the most of limited opportunities, Bryan excepted. It's a tough call, stick of try someone new, I'm very undecided. Whatever, we need to get it right on January, which is a lot easier said than done. Id like to know what he would of done with this team if he was just appointed manager, doubt he would be setting them up like he does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive user Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 5 hours ago, Dynamite Red said: I see the usual miserable posters and broken records are back on here screaming, whatever Cotterill's future this was a man who saved us from relegation and won us our first title in God knows how many years plus the JPT. Yes some may want him out but some of the petty jibes and bitching is uncalled for. The summer transfer window was an total disaster and has left us with a squad that can't rest or drop out of form players, the whole of the clubs management need to take responsibility for this. But please let's have touch of realism and grace, unless we have someone better lined up then let's get behind him and the team. Respect? Yep, respect to all clueless muppets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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