The Batman Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 As it says on the tin. Me and the wife will be going on holiday with her family in a few years time. I said we'd have to save up a bit more to accommodate for the summer prices, she said we'll be going end September as it won't be a big deal taking a child out of school. (We have a niece who will be mid primary school age at the time we go) What do people think of it and is it really a big deal. I remember going on at least 2 holidays during school time and neither did me any harm. That was a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 That was before everything was either banned or compulsory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 I think it's probably OK as a one off. But start doing it every year and it could start to have an effect. With a teacher for a wife it's not something I'll ever have to consider. Expensive holidays are all I've ever known and all I ever will know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollymarie Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 You can put in a request in writing for the head to allow you to take them out without the risk of being fined. It depends on stuff like what their attendance is like usually. Most (but not all heads) are usually flexible and if you've run it past them, then a week or two off will be fine. Ask for the policy in school maybe first, and have a chat with the head to ask her/him how strict they are about enforcing the no holidays thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 I did it last year but my boy was only 5 and it was fine, spoke to the head teacher and he was fine although he obviously couldn't give it the ok And said I could face a fine (which I didnt). Probably depends on the age of the kids, something does need doing though as it is disgraceful how expensive holidays are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 It does depend on the age of the child. If they are five then you will probably get away with it. My personal view is that it shouldn't be done regardless of fines but I am sure not many will agree with me. Important to teach children the importance of school and remain consistent with that message, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 43 minutes ago, RedDave said: It does depend on the age of the child. If they are five then you will probably get away with it. My personal view is that it shouldn't be done regardless of fines but I am sure not many will agree with me. Important to teach children the importance of school and remain consistent with that message, in my opinion. I've done it twice, once in the final week of school when my two eldest were both still at primary school, and watching videos all day, so no big deal Done it last year, for a long weekend after we got married, was the first week back, so no issues at all with the schools either time But I have to say, I do agree with your sentiments, Dave. Sets a good example, bugs the crap out of me seeing friends take their kids out for 2 weeks, when they've got 6 weeks off coming up in a months time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 What would make life rather easier and less costly for us parents is if every school in the bleeding country didn't schedule their holidays at exactly the same time - creating the six-week "peak period". Such an easy thing to implement, but no, like Sunday trading hours, we are stuck in the past. Having the holidays based around August was "to allow children to help with the harvest". No longer necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollymarie Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Or maybe the government could force the holiday companies not to vastly inflate their prices during the school holidays thus leading to parents having to take their kids out because they can't afford to go on holiday otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Yet teachers are allowed to strike during term time which is effectively the same as being absent so they should be fined as well. Phone in sick from wherever you are, its what I do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 17 hours ago, The Batman said: As it says on the tin. Me and the wife will be going on holiday with her family in a few years time. I said we'd have to save up a bit more to accommodate for the summer prices, Aye, Clevedon can be a tad pricey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted March 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 36 minutes ago, BigTone said: Aye, Clevedon can be a tad pricey Don't get me started on that. Last year, her aunt wanted one last family holiday as she has terminal cancer. Of all the places she wanted to go back to, we had to go to Brean. Oh what a joyous weekend that was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Family time is important. I can't see an issue with taking primary school age kids out for a couple of weeks in a year, they probably lose that through work shy teachers striking anyway. As for holiday companies being "forced" to lower their prices, why the hell should they? Supply and demand makes holidays outside of term time be worth more, and you can be sure those high prices make the in term time prices lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jimmer Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 The smartest people I know regularly traveled as kids and went on holidays. I wouldn't even think twice about it mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 I only recall being taken out once, for a few days before end of the summer term, and not in an exam year, so no harm done. Niece and nephew have been taken out to come visit me. Think my sister's view with the school was on the lines of "go ahead and sue me." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 7 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: What would make life rather easier and less costly for us parents is if every school in the bleeding country didn't schedule their holidays at exactly the same time - creating the six-week "peak period". Such an easy thing to implement, but no, like Sunday trading hours, we are stuck in the past. Having the holidays based around August was "to allow children to help with the harvest". No longer necessary. Some kids in my wife's village (deepest, darkest Somerset) were not actually sent to school in any event: parents thought learning to drive a Massey Ferguson was more important than stuff like learning to read like what those town folk did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 5 hours ago, One Team In Keynsham said: Some kids in my wife's village (deepest, darkest Somerset) were not actually sent to school in any event: parents thought learning to drive a Massey Ferguson was more important than stuff like learning to read like what those town folk did. Indeed, didn't happen historically, for lots of reasons. P'raps a teacher on here can tell us the origin of compulsory education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 I take my two out for a few days each year before Easter as that is when we have our main holiday (we're taking them out in just over a week). We haven't been fined yet but have always said that if we were we would just pay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northsomersetred Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 18 hours ago, frenchred said: Yet teachers are allowed to strike during term time which is effectively the same as being absent so they should be fined as well. Phone in sick from wherever you are, its what I do! Are you saying teachers shouldn't be allowed to strike? They're like any other employee who has the right to withdraw their labour, just because it inconveniences a large amount of people doesn't make it wrong. If you know a teacher who's been teaching for 5-10yrs+ go and ask them how they feel about their job now, i'll put serious money that the vast majority will tell you they don't like it. (BTW i'm speaking from experience i'm married to one) Just from my wife's experience pupil assaults, arson(trying to set the classroom alight), parent assaults, vandalism to our car etc. not once reported to the police as the headteacher didn't want any bad press bought upon the school. So she quit, not our loss but a loss the the students of North Somerset and south Bristol and to the teachers in her subject as she was North Somerset's AST (advance skills teacher) and Leading teacher in her subject. Oh and please don't come 'they only work 9-3', there's been many a night she's been up past midnight marking GCSE course work and homework and i've done my fair share in marking course work as well. Back to the OP's post, if you want to take your kids out make sure their attendance is above 92% for the year with the holiday factored in, there is nothing stated in any legislation etc that you can't take your kids on holiday, it's about the average attendance. You will more than likely get fined but you'll have to go to Court and argue your case, or as above phone in sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollymarie Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 ^^^^ couldn't agree more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 1 hour ago, northsomersetred said: Are you saying teachers shouldn't be allowed to strike? They're like any other employee who has the right to withdraw their labour, just because it inconveniences a large amount of people doesn't make it wrong. If you know a teacher who's been teaching for 5-10yrs+ go and ask them how they feel about their job now, i'll put serious money that the vast majority will tell you they don't like it. (BTW i'm speaking from experience i'm married to one) Just from my wife's experience pupil assaults, arson(trying to set the classroom alight), parent assaults, vandalism to our car etc. not once reported to the police as the headteacher didn't want any bad press bought upon the school. So she quit, not our loss but a loss the the students of North Somerset and south Bristol and to the teachers in her subject as she was North Somerset's AST (advance skills teacher) and Leading teacher in her subject. Oh and please don't come 'they only work 9-3', there's been many a night she's been up past midnight marking GCSE course work and homework and i've done my fair share in marking course work as well. Back to the OP's post, if you want to take your kids out make sure their attendance is above 92% for the year with the holiday factored in, there is nothing stated in any legislation etc that you can't take your kids on holiday, it's about the average attendance. You will more than likely get fined but you'll have to go to Court and argue your case, or as above phone in sick. I can completely identify with what you are saying - my wife has been teaching for around 10 years (albeit part time) and is desperate to get out, as are a lot of her colleagues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 7 hours ago, northsomersetred said: Are you saying teachers shouldn't be allowed to strike? They're like any other employee who has the right to withdraw their labour, just because it inconveniences a large amount of people doesn't make it wrong. Yes it is wrong, they are there to provide a service and should provide it If you know a teacher who's been teaching for 5-10yrs+ go and ask them how they feel about their job now, i'll put serious money that the vast majority will tell you they don't like it. (BTW i'm speaking from experience i'm married to one) And so would thousands of others who are not in Teaching so no different from anyone else Just from my wife's experience pupil assaults, arson(trying to set the classroom alight), parent assaults, vandalism to our car etc. not once reported to the police as the headteacher didn't want any bad press bought upon the school. So she quit, not our loss but a loss the the students of North Somerset and south Bristol and to the teachers in her subject as she was North Somerset's AST (advance skills teacher) and Leading teacher in her subject. Teachings loss as you say and I agree, no room for violence anywhere in any walk of life Oh and please don't come 'they only work 9-3', there's been many a night she's been up past midnight marking GCSE course work and homework and i've done my fair share in marking course work as well. Are you qualified to do this? There is no getting away with it that they work short hours and have holidays most of us can only dream of! Back to the OP's post, if you want to take your kids out make sure their attendance is above 92% for the year with the holiday factored in, there is nothing stated in any legislation etc that you can't take your kids on holiday, it's about the average attendance. You will more than likely get fined but you'll have to go to Court and argue your case, or as above phone in sick. Not having a go at you but I do get fed up with the one way traffic from schools to parents, forever preached what we can and cant do while the rules appear more flexible to the teachers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 I went to Australia when I was 13 (on my own) to stay with family for 6 months. Ok, I went to school there but the experience certainly did not do me any harm and has made me very independent. My own kids get a nosebleed going to Clevedon !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 On 11 March 2016 at 15:22, BigTone said: Aye, Clevedon can be a tad pricey Severn Beach is very reasonable, this time of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 On 3/12/2016 at 15:56, BigTone said: I went to Australia when I was 13 (on my own) to stay with family for 6 months. Ok, I went to school there but the experience certainly did not do me any harm and has made me very independent. My own kids get a nosebleed going to Clevedon !! So just how do you explain some (most?) of your posts on this forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 1 hour ago, PHILINFRANCE said: So just how do you explain some (most?) of your posts on this forum? Good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin25 Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 On 3/10/2016 at 06:11, The Batman said: As it says on the tin. Me and the wife will be going on holiday with her family in a few years time. I said we'd have to save up a bit more to accommodate for the summer prices, she said we'll be going end September as it won't be a big deal taking a child out of school. (We have a niece who will be mid primary school age at the time we go) What do people think of it and is it really a big deal. I remember going on at least 2 holidays during school time and neither did me any harm. That was a long time ago. Holiday breaks school pressures and refreshes excitement for it. So, it's a big deal for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbored Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 In Wales official guidelines from WAG is not to prosecute but they are trying to keep it quiet not to sure what the status is in England but i guess it would be the same. Its since that chap took his LEA to court and won his case and they dont want to keep paying court costs when they lose the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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