slartibartfast Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 ...they are ****** PROSTITUTES ! All this PC rubbish it makes them sound like some sort of social worker ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephjnr Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Nope. When they're dead, they're just hookers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshy Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 1 hour ago, slartibartfast said: ...they are ****** PROSTITUTES ! All this PC rubbish it makes them sound like some sort of social worker ! From what you read in the papers you might think they are of far more benefit to society than many social workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Id say a prostitute is a sub category of sex worker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 i suppose "sex worker" carries less stigma. Not that you can avoid stigma when your job is getting banged by ugly blokes for cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Colby-Tit Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 What about fat old ugly birds on premium chat lines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 20 hours ago, Sir Colby-Tit said: What about fat old ugly birds on premium chat lines? Mmm. Yes. I think we need a flow chart, and it is totally unclear, for example, where 'dirty old slappers' fit in. Can someone get this done by close of play today? Many thanks. Uncle TFR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 23 hours ago, slartibartfast said: ...they are ****** PROSTITUTES ! All this PC rubbish it makes them sound like some sort of social worker ! I've just phoned the council, claiming to be you. They were pretty upset, and said social workers are definitely NOT sex workers. Uncle TFR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghornred Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 I'm sure that they do not mind what they are called so long as they get paid, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin25 Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 They can be termed as sex worker because they perform sex as their work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Sex workers includes strippers etc ? So not all sex workers are prostitutes, but all prostitutes are sex workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 The whole 9 minutes is great but 5 minutes in for the relevance to this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotham Brow Red Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Know someone who is a "sex worker". Pays income tax NI and all that. Paying off the mortgage on her third house outright. Lovely little property estate growing there. Does alright.It ain't the people doing the job it's the Muppets that pay the price that need to look at themselves. There is a market is there and doesn't make it right but not wrong either in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 7 hours ago, Cotham Brow Red said: Know someone who is a "sex worker". Pays income tax NI and all that. Paying off the mortgage on her third house outright. Lovely little property estate growing there. Does alright.It ain't the people doing the job it's the Muppets that pay the price that need to look at themselves. There is a market is there and doesn't make it right but not wrong either in 2016. The blokes I know who admit to using prostitutes often use the line that it is far cheaper than marriage & divorce. True if rather depressing. IMO the use of the term " sex worker" is an attempt to normalise a profession that will always have a demand. By having an adult attitude to it you can massively improve the lives and safety of the women working within it. My argument for reforming sex work is the same as for the drugs trade: that it will always exist because the demand, and consequently money to be made, is so high that attempting to ban and criminalise people within it serves to damage the people you actually wish to protect (sex workers and drug users) that the existing policies clearly don't work that not liking something is not sufficient grounds for banning it. You'll note that I'm not offering solutions, I think it's a process of trial and error that we should be open to. Some US states have legalised cannabis and that seems to be going OK, Leeds has introduced a nightly safe zone prostitution on an industrial estate where it is legal and police on on hand in case of problems. Small steps but they have improved the lives of the sex workers and drug users; which is surely the aim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 20 hours ago, Cotham Brow Red said: Know someone who is a "sex worker". Pays income tax NI and all that. Paying off the mortgage on her third house outright. Lovely little property estate growing there. Does alright.It ain't the people doing the job it's the Muppets that pay the price that need to look at themselves. There is a market is there and doesn't make it right but not wrong either in 2016. Someone involved in something illegal as a main income has a legit mortgage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 31 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said: Someone involved in something illegal as a main income has a legit mortgage? Bank managers need love too you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The dastardly red Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 On 13 April 2016 at 13:34, slartibartfast said: ...they are ****** PROSTITUTES ! All this PC rubbish it makes them sound like some sort of social worker ! You sir are a clown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The dastardly red Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 On 14 April 2016 at 00:36, RedDave said: The whole 9 minutes is great but 5 minutes in for the relevance to this thread Hope the op watches this......right to the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 20 hours ago, Barrs Court Red said: Someone involved in something illegal as a main income has a legit mortgage? Being a prostitute is not illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 30 minutes ago, BS2 Red said: Being a prostitute is not illegal. It isn`t is it? I think it`s the soliciting part that`s the illegal bit and you can be done for running a brothel I think but actual prostitution is legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Red Right Hand said: It isn`t is it? I think it`s the soliciting part that`s the illegal bit and you can be done for running a brothel I think but actual prostitution is legal. Pretty much. I doubt many prostitutes declare their income though so they're still breaking the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 19 minutes ago, BS2 Red said: Pretty much. I doubt many prostitutes declare their income though so they're still breaking the law. Like a lot of self-employed people I`m sure (I`m one so not having a dig). What I would like to see though is HMRC have a blitz on it, that would be funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 17 hours ago, Red Right Hand said: Like a lot of self-employed people I`m sure (I`m one so not having a dig). What I would like to see though is HMRC have a blitz on it, that would be funny. I want to see them giving out receipts so that people can claim them as "entertainment" on their work expenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jimmer Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 On 13/04/2016 at 13:34, slartibartfast said: ...they are ****** PROSTITUTES ! All this PC rubbish it makes them sound like some sort of social worker ! Nothing wrong with changing the name to something more respectful to the ladies that are doing it. PC argument is ridiculous. It makes sense to change things sometimes, lighten up On 16/04/2016 at 07:48, Eddie Hitler said: The blokes I know who admit to using prostitutes often use the line that it is far cheaper than marriage & divorce. True if rather depressing. IMO the use of the term " sex worker" is an attempt to normalise a profession that will always have a demand. By having an adult attitude to it you can massively improve the lives and safety of the women working within it. My argument for reforming sex work is the same as for the drugs trade: that it will always exist because the demand, and consequently money to be made, is so high that attempting to ban and criminalise people within it serves to damage the people you actually wish to protect (sex workers and drug users) that the existing policies clearly don't work that not liking something is not sufficient grounds for banning it. You'll note that I'm not offering solutions, I think it's a process of trial and error that we should be open to. Some US states have legalised cannabis and that seems to be going OK, Leeds has introduced a nightly safe zone prostitution on an industrial estate where it is legal and police on on hand in case of problems. Small steps but they have improved the lives of the sex workers and drug users; which is surely the aim. Yep. Criminalizing drugs and the sex trade has only caused more problems. The war on drugs particularly has been a complete failure and needs to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 A lot on here are too young to remember the investigative reporters who visited Massage Parlours in the 70's for the Sunday tabloids and when it came to the biz quoted the infamous line ' I then declined the offer and left the premises' and there was I thinking only politicians told lies !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 2 hours ago, heroMan said: Sex workers includes strippers etc? Therefore not all sex workers are prostitutes, but all prostitutes are sex workers. Like this Yep, a sex worker can be anything from a prostitute to a phone sex worker to a stripper and even the receptionist at a brothel. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_worker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Are pimps sex ' Management ' ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 4 hours ago, Major Isewater said: Are pimps sex ' Management ' ? No, they are "Brand Consultants". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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