Fordy62 Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Amidst of the turmoil of our national side, one great thing has arisen from the debacle of last night and that's the Icelandic "Hoooooooo!" *Clap* chant. Can't say I've ever seen anything quite as good or effective at a football match. Massive congratulation to their team and fans. I think it meant a lot more to them than it would have done to us. If you've been hiding somewhere, here it is... it was going on throughout the game as well as at the end. http://bbc.in/290slRe Well done Iceland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 The Icelandic chant is good, but it's not as good as the Asda-slap-on-the-arse. As they say: "it's good, but it's not quite Carling". Uncle TFR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 The chant is common place in German, French, Polish, Russian etc club football. The Icelandics just did it very well, to a man, in the otherwise silent stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted June 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: The chant is common place in German, French, Polish, Russian etc club football. The Icelandics just did it very well, to a man, in the otherwise silent stadium. Every day is a school day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 5 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Every day is a school day. Tell Corbyn. Uncle TFR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 A Northern haka? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 8 minutes ago, Aizoon said: A Northern haka? I've never understood why the RFU insists teams have to stand still and not laugh while teams of white European New Zealanders and other non-Maoris do their silly dance. I would suggest our rugby players adopt something traditional to us. Specifically the sign used by the long bowmen when facing the French at Agincourt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 9 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: I've never understood why the RFU insists teams have to stand still and not laugh while teams of white European New Zealanders and other non-Maoris do their silly dance. I would suggest our rugby players adopt something traditional to us. Specifically the sign used by the long bowmen when facing the French at Agincourt. Most All Blacks players have said they happily welcome any challenge to the Haka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 English chants are often in fast forward and non-composed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: Most All Blacks players have said they happily welcome any challenge to the Haka. Great. Let's do it. It's the officials who say we must respect it. Not the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 11 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: Most All Blacks players have said they happily welcome any challenge to the Haka. Yeah, tell that to Brian O'Driscoll after the Lions tried to challenge the Haka... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Hoooooo hoooooo and so on is a warning that the vulkan is coming. Great and powerful I Think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, Garland-sweden said: Hoooooo hoooooo and so on is a warning that the vulkan is coming. Great and powerful I Think. So when will Dr Spock and Captain Kirk arrive ? Also Garland, what happened to Tommy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Think Tommy is banned, not allowed in Otib. By the way, Think the french team are worried to meet Iceland. If they can beat England they can beat France. They are more than strong in mind and boddy. Think France will win but fingers crossed for the fighters from Iceland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fodbarmyarmy Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 41 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: Most All Blacks players have said they happily welcome any challenge to the Haka. "Baa Baa Black sheep" ??..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 The Dortmund Yellow Wall do that chant well...those Icelanders do it incredibly well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 3 hours ago, Taxi for Rennie said: The Icelandic chant is good, but it's not as good as the Asda-slap-on-the-arse. As they say: "it's good, but it's not quite Carling". Uncle TFR we'll remember that for the England WC qualifiers… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: Great. Let's do it. It's the officials who say we must respect it. Not the players. get some of those blow hooters with a feather on the end, that'll scare em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 In baseball the Atlanta Braves fans do a tomahawk chant in which they move their rigid arms at the elbow up and down to resemble a tomahawk. This can be quite frightening to some when they do it en masse, although to others it just seems like it is a mass convention of The Woodentops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: I've never understood why the RFU insists teams have to stand still and not laugh while teams of white European New Zealanders and other non-Maoris do their silly dance. I would suggest our rugby players adopt something traditional to us. Specifically the sign used by the long bowmen when facing the French at Agincourt. The thing is, no one complains when Tonga,Samoa and Fiji do their own Haka's, could it be that other teams can beat these teams, but people always look for an excuse when the All Blacks beat them!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, Portland Bill said: The thing is, no one complains when Tonga,Samoa and Fiji do their own Haka's, could it be that other teams can beat these teams, but people always look for an excuse when the All Blacks beat them!! I'm interested as to why the island nations do it. It's a Maori tradition, not a Polynesian one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: Great. Let's do it. It's the officials who say we must respect it. Not the players. It's only the English rugby fan that has a problem with it, they will do it in the changing room if forced to. They did this in Cardiff a few years ago when the Welsh rfu said they could only do it on the pitch if they did it before the anthems. New Zealanders are very proud of their heratige, I lived there for a few years and it opens your eyes to what a proud nation they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 3 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: I've never understood why the RFU insists teams have to stand still and not laugh while teams of white European New Zealanders and other non-Maoris do their silly dance. I would suggest our rugby players adopt something traditional to us. Specifically the sign used by the long bowmen when facing the French at Agincourt. What a load of bollocks the Haka is ! I would like to see an opposing side turn round and bare their backsides at the N.Z. players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 58 minutes ago, Portland Bill said: It's only the English rugby fan that has a problem with it, they will do it in the changing room if forced to. They did this in Cardiff a few years ago when the Welsh rfu said they could only do it on the pitch if they did it before the anthems. New Zealanders are very proud of their heratige, I lived there for a few years and it opens your eyes to what a proud nation they are. But 75% of those doing it are not Maoris. In fact a fair few of them are descendents of the people who massacred the Maoris with muskets, smallpox and whisky. It's a bit like if white Americans stuck feathers in their hair and danced around a totem pole before international matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 It was a bit like watching an episode of vikings with their war chant as they hit their shields. Had an effect on the England fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 4 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: I've never understood why the RFU insists teams have to stand still and not laugh while teams of white European New Zealanders and other non-Maoris do their silly dance. I would suggest our rugby players adopt something traditional to us. Specifically the sign used by the long bowmen when facing the French at Agincourt. I have the answer , this'll have them trembling in their boots . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said: But 75% of those doing it are not Maoris. In fact a fair few of them are descendents of the people who massacred the Maoris with muskets, smallpox and whisky. It's a bit like if white Americans stuck feathers in their hair and danced around a totem pole before international matches. How do you know this, a lot of 'white looking' kiwis have Maori blood in them from mixed marriages etc. You only have to look at the New Zealand Maori team, even blokes with ginger hair! Heres a link, Pakeha means white by the way. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pākehā_Māori Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 2 hours ago, The Gasbuster said: What a load of bollocks the Haka is ! I would like to see an opposing side turn round and bare their backsides at the N.Z. players. Ironic!! Whakapohane is the Māori practice of baring one's buttocks with the intent to offend. It symbolises the birthing act and renders the recipient noa ("base").[5] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Just now, Portland Bill said: How do you know this, a lot of 'white looking' kiwis have Maori blood in them from mixed marriages etc. You only have to look at the New Zealand Moari team, even blokes with ginger hair! Heres a link, Pakeha means white by the way. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pākehā_Māori Bill, even if some of them have, not all of them do. Don't you feel it's a sort of embarrassing cultural imperialism for whiteys to do dances originally used by the folk facing them in battle? It's a step away from the Black & White Minstrel Show. Anyway, that wasn't the point of my first post. They can do what they want. I just don't see why we have to stand stony faced in the face of their cavorting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 12 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: Bill, even if some of them have, not all of them do. Don't you feel it's a sort of embarrassing cultural imperialism for whiteys to do dances originally used by the folk facing them in battle? It's a step away from the Black & White Minstrel Show. Anyway, that wasn't the point of my first post. They can do what they want. I just don't see why we have to stand stony faced in the face of their cavorting. Be careful. I understand that you are not suggesting this but you are getting very close to an idea where people can't participate in certain activities based on their race. Do black people get offended when mostly white English rugby fans sing Swing Low, which is a Negro Spiritual which has its roots in slavery? In fact, if anything, they are helping to preserve part of a culture and language that their ancestors almost destroyed. Look at the Aussie team, I know nothing of aborigine culture from that team, but I have an insight, all be it a small one into Moari culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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