AshtonGreat Posted July 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 56 minutes ago, Septic Peg said: Gonna shout Joe Hart here. Bags of experience, happy to bark from the sticks. No scandals in the closet iirc. Have we ever had an England goalie as captain? Or as @Red Army Faction says, let the seniors do the democratic thing and vote. But shit. Mind you, that's never been a problem before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted July 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 33 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said: Rooney. In midfield he's a revelation. :laugh: he is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: he is? I thought he was great. Spent force in attack: blowing, moaning, failing to deliver. Put him in midfield and he ran the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am the mole Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said: I thought he was great. Spent force in attack: blowing, moaning, failing to deliver. Put him in midfield and he ran the game. Not against Iceland he didn't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted July 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 49 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said: I thought he was great. Spent force in attack: blowing, moaning, failing to deliver. Put him in midfield and he ran the game. He ran one game. Against Russia. The rest of the tournament he was woeful. It's very depressing and very predictable to hear Allardyce say Rooney has a 'massive role' to play for England. Looks like Big Sam will be heading the same way as all the other England managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 3 hours ago, AshtonGreat said: Presuming Rooney will do the honourable thing and retire... Why is that the "honourable thing"? Why SHOULD he retire? To make way for Wilshere, Henderson, Barkley... all those other world beaters? Rooney should be captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 22 minutes ago, Robin TBW said: Why is that the "honourable thing"? Why SHOULD he retire? To make way for Wilshere, Henderson, Barkley... all those other world beaters? Rooney should be captain. Rooney was woeful after the Russia game, and unlike the one you listed doesn't have much/any scope to improve as a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted July 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 7 hours ago, Robin TBW said: Why is that the "honourable thing"? Why SHOULD he retire? To make way for Wilshere, Henderson, Barkley... all those other world beaters? Rooney should be captain. He should retire because he's not good enough at international level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honiton Tony Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 How anybody can say Rooney after that second half against Iceland when we needed the captain to step forward Is beyond me ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 8 minutes ago, Honiton Tony said: How anybody can say Rooney after that second half against Iceland when we needed the captain to step forward Is beyond me ! The whole team was playing like a load of frightened children; why single out Rooney just because he has the armband? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 none of them, not one show any form of leadership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 11 hours ago, Eddie Hitler said: I thought he was great. Spent force in attack: blowing, moaning, failing to deliver. Put him in midfield and he ran the game. The only way Rooney ran any game at the Euros was by picking up the ball deep and or wide where he had all the time in the world. Really hope he starts center mid for manu he will be knackered after 15 mins!! Against the top teams the game will be to quick for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderMB Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 It's difficult to make Rooney captain because it's likely that his time with England has passed. Big Sam might be able to revive his career, but I think that's a tall order. If it were me, I'd give it to Joe Hart. He might make mistakes at times, but he's the closest England have to a leader. Maybe even do the Italian approach that others have suggested, and have Joe Hart the official captain, but swap the armband around so that the most experienced player gets the band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 Well Joe Hart is certainly the tallest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garlicbread Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 Joe Hart should be out of the England setup forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 14 hours ago, AshtonGreat said: Presuming Rooney will do the honourable thing and retire... Rooney? "Honourable"? Whoever is the oldest player in the team. That's how Italy do it, seems sensible to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashtonphil Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 5 minutes ago, garlicbread said: Joe Hart should be out of the England setup forever. And be replaced by whom.... Heaton, Forster...?? Who would you recommend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 Wouldn't mind Butland getting the next few starts if only to give Hart a wake up call. Think he's gotten complacent about his position with no real competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garlicbread Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 29 minutes ago, ashtonphil said: And be replaced by whom.... Heaton, Forster...?? Who would you recommend? 29 minutes ago, ashtonphil said: Butland, then Forster, then Heaton..........whoever..just anyone but Joe Hart. A national embarrassment. I cant believe people actually not only suggest picking him, but making him captain?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 Eric Dier for me, he came out of the tournament with his reputation enhanced and would be the 1st name on the teamsheet. As for Joe Hart i am not even sure that he will be Man City's number 1 next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhbcfc Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 Chris Smalling or Eric Dier. Don't want Hart playing again in the considerable future; unfair on Butland, Forster and even Heaton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honiton Tony Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 5 hours ago, Eddie Hitler said: The whole team was playing like a load of frightened children; why single out Rooney just because he has the armband? In a game like that you need the captain to step forward not go missing ........ weak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talk Of The Town Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 Terry Butcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 19 hours ago, hodge said: If he's going to be selected up to 2018 the Gary Cahill. My pick as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 18 hours ago, FlintWonderwall said: Exactly my thoughts. His experience to the team at this point is invaluable. He also has great vision and the ability to still score a few As it showed at the Euro's .......................... not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 I'd hope Rooney retires and Joe Hart is dropped in preference to Fraser Forster or Ben Foster. Joe Hart is a bottler 2 tournaments in a row is 1 too many, but I would go with the keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 19 hours ago, Septic Peg said: Gonna shout Joe Hart here. Bags of experience, happy to bark from the sticks. No scandals in the closet iirc. Have we ever had an England goalie as captain? Or as @Red Army Faction says, let the seniors do the democratic thing and vote. Should be dropped the way he played in the euros. No way a guaranteed starter for me now. I'd go Dier. That word sums England up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 7 hours ago, Eddie Hitler said: The whole team was playing like a load of frightened children; why single out Rooney just because he has the armband? That's the point to be in that team he needed to justify his place, he should never play for England again after the Iceland game. I don't get the he ran the show from midfield crap, the guy hit strait ball after strait ball and couldn't take a decent corner. He's got to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 12 hours ago, AshtonGreat said: He should retire because he's not good enough at international level Neither were the rest of the squad. They should all retire then based on your reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evocare Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 Eric Dier Joe Hart is a liability, cant perform on the big stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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