Lrrr Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Yeah, Redmond crossing in for Gray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Boothroyd on the coaching staff of England U21s!!!!!! Remind me again when England done anything at International level His style of football made the 80s Wimbledon look like Barca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Problem already found with England's system, the interchangeable way England's attacking players are playing is having its moments, but Gray just had the chance to cross but no one was in the box. Instincts of a player like Abraham would have seen him in the box ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 28 minutes ago, hodge said: Choosing to play Gray out of position as a striker. Pundits recognising Tammy's form and some surprise he's not starting. Boothroyd choosing to play the older more experienced members of the squad to start with it seems. Proving that problem runs deep in the English set up. Playing people out of position because they're more recognised and not playing the in form players. No doubting the talent of Redmond and Gray but they haven't exactly set it alight at their clubs this season. Redmond has been playing in the U21 forever it seems and hasn't made the step up to the senior side but still gets the nod. Time to let go and start blooding the ones that will make the step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 10 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said: Boothroyd on the coaching staff of England U21s!!!!!! Remind me again when England done anything at International level His style of football made the 80s Wimbledon look like Barca Didn't one of the younger teams win a tournament a few years back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 1 minute ago, JoeAman08 said: Proving that problem runs deep in the English set up. Playing people out of position because they're more recognised and not playing the in form players. No doubting the talent of Redmond and Gray but they haven't exactly set it alight at their clubs this season. Redmond has been playing in the U21 forever it seems and hasn't made the step up to the senior side but still gets the nod. Time to let go and start blooding the ones that will make the step up. Redmond is looking very good when he moves out wide which is just making the system look foolish really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 35 minutes ago, hodge said: Choosing to play Gray out of position as a striker. Pundits recognising Tammy's form and some surprise he's not starting. Boothroyd choosing to play the older more experienced members of the squad to start with it seems. Sure it's Gray? Redmond has been playing as a striker for Southampton this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 2 minutes ago, Robin1988 said: Sure it's Gray? Redmond has been playing as a striker for Southampton this season. Bit of both, corrected myself after. Redmond is generally playing centrally (pundits said Gray would be) but they're interchanging at times when Gray is wide Redmond will be central and vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollywhyte Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Having Redmond and Gray either side of Abraham would be pretty frightening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Actually thought Redmond would make the senior squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, ollywhyte said: Having Redmond and Gray either side of Abraham would be pretty frightening. Wonder if Boothroyd thinks so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 They`ll just wrap up qualification today and Tammy will get a run out on Tuesday. I can`t see too many crunching tackles in that one with both teams having nothing to play for and in some ways it`s better for us if it`s that way round as he gets a break this week and a chance to get back up to speed next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P'head Red Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Quite a big crowd for an U21 game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 16 minutes ago, hodge said: Redmond is looking very good when he moves out wide which is just making the system look foolish really. It's where he's always played before this year. Maybe he can be a striker on occasions. I've thought he could get the call up last year to the senior squad. This year though he hasn't convinced me. Gray is a good wide player but other than getting a move to Leicester hasn't done too much that would be noteworthy. So to play them both out of position(going out wide anyway) is frustrating. Tammy never played championship football before but 11 games in is the top scorer. The English U21 is filled with too many 21-22 year olds. If they've not made the step up yet, they need to do it by making an impact in the premier league. Redmond, Chalobah, Chambers, Baker, and Ward Prowse have all been there a good while now and most can't get games for their club teams consistently. I'm not writing them off as players but they need to make their own way now. Not keep being coddled. They're not young for footballers nowadays and the u21 should be the best 18-20 year olds(or younger if they're good enough) looking to make their mark. I think it's stagnating the younger players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxo Jr. Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: It's where he's always played before this year. Maybe he can be a striker on occasions. I've thought he could get the call up last year to the senior squad. This year though he hasn't convinced me. Gray is a good wide player but other than getting a move to Leicester hasn't done too much that would be noteworthy. So to play them both out of position(going out wide anyway) is frustrating. Tammy never played championship football before but 11 games in is the top scorer. The English U21 is filled with too many 21-22 year olds. If they've not made the step up yet, they need to do it by making an impact in the premier league. Redmond, Chalobah, Chambers, Baker, and Ward Prowse have all been there a good while now and most can't get games for their club teams consistently. I'm not writing them off as players but they need to make their own way now. Not keep being coddled. They're not young for footballers nowadays and the u21 should be the best 18-20 year olds(or younger if they're good enough) looking to make their mark. I think it's stagnating the younger players. I'd argue that Redmond has consistently looked good even when he was in the Premier League with Norwich, by far their most promising player whenever I saw them. In fact I think he's continued his good form with Southampton, not shining as much, but still posing a threat to goal, with shots on goal as well as crosses. Can't really argue about the others, but Ward Prowse is their captain (and also does start fairly regularly for Southampton), you do need players with a little bit of experience to help them bed in. I remember Milner was U21 captain for a good while before moving up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 How the hell did a Dinosaur like Boothroyd get the gig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, harrys said: How the hell did a Dinosaur like Boothroyd get the gig? Wasn't it by being U19's/U20's manager and being moved up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsRed Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 I've just seen somebody on here tell us all that James Ward-Prowse doesn't get first team football, despite the fact he's played 112 Premier League games aged 21... Funny guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 3 minutes ago, Luxo Jr. said: I'd argue that Redmond has consistently looked good even when he was in the Premier League with Norwich, by far their most promising player whenever I saw them. In fact I think he's continued his good form with Southampton, not shining as much, but still posing a threat to goal, with shots on goal as well as crosses. Can't really argue about the others, but Ward Prowse is their captain (and also does start fairly regularly for Southampton), you do need players with a little bit of experience to help them bed in. I remember Milner was U21 captain for a good while before moving up. No doubt you need a few but the squad is filled with older lads who maybe need to be booted to give them that reality check. Redmond last year for me should've been called up. He the most ready in the U21 but he's 22 and needs to push on a bit more now. Dangerous at club level but when does that turn into more goals and assists? I sound harsh on him but I feel these type of games would be more beneficial to guys like Taylor Moore, Tammy Abraham and the fringe 19-20 year olds in the prem like Holgate, Galloway, Gray, Holding and Loftus Cheek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 1 minute ago, hodge said: Wasn't it by being U19's/U20's manager and being moved up. So at this rate the next progression step will be England manager? No wonder the English game is in such a state Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Take Baker off, Tammy on. Midfield 3 of Chalobah, Loftus-Cheek and Ward-Prowse. Redmond/Gray wide and Tammy centrally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 All the pundits saying that Tammy should be coming on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsRed Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Has David James just stated he's a Bristol City fan? Seriously? I've rewound the tv to re-watch it 4 times... It seems like he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P'head Red Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 It almost seems like the pundits are scared to say the name of our football club when talking abut Tammy. Only DJ has said about us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomerRed Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Jamo in studio wants Tammy to come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 2 minutes ago, harrys said: So at this rate the next progression step will be England manager? No wonder the English game is in such a state To be fair they're not playing bad football, just missing that central striker. For all of us calling for Tammy this is his first time he's been called up and age wise could still be playing for the 19's. Just good they've got the confidence to take him with an older squad tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jimmer Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Did David James just say he was a City fan?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 3 minutes ago, EmersonsRed said: Has David James just stated he's a Bristol City fan? Seriously? I've rewound the tv to re-watch it 4 times... It seems like he did. Probably bad wording on his half, can't say for sure he's not a Bristol City fan, but difference in being a Bristol City fan and a fan of Bristol City so to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsRed Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 2 minutes ago, Collis1 said: Did David James just say he was a City fan?! He did... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 18 minutes ago, harrys said: How the hell did a Dinosaur like Boothroyd get the gig? Ridiculous role for an ageing Labour peer, what the f*** is the Baroness doing? .... well while you're at it Betty you might as well get yer Tammy out for Rudolph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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