Redmycolour Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Should refs and there assistant have to explain the reason for there wrong decision such as last night Tomlin not being offside and At Cardiff the lead up to there first goal there player being at least 2ft offside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Or maybe the players should come out and say why they haven't performed like they should over the last couple of games? It happens, swings and roundabouts. Get three points Saturday and the last two games can be forgotten. It's a very tight league. If you'd have said we'd lose both games and still be in the top 6 I wouldn't believe you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 The Cardiff one was about 2 inches tbf, and easy to get it wrong. I haven't seen last nights yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 I wouldn't object to referees doing an interview post match, though perhaps immediately after wouldn't be ideal. A Swedish referee did this a few years ago and was widely praised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Refs will make mistakes. It happens. It's not nice against us but I wouldn't have it any other way. I think the standard can be improved at all levels though. It's almost like Russian Roulette with referees in the championship. You can get a good one you barely notice or you can get the inconsistent and whistle happy ones. So, no, they should never have to explain themselves but they should be coached after games on calls they made and how to be in better positions to make correct calls as often as they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Because if they did interviews it would be dull after 2 weeks of them saying that's the way i saw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 They have such a hard job impossible to win. Small margins eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 6 minutes ago, shelts said: They have such a hard job impossible to win. Small margins eh. And they don`t get away with making a bad decision either, they get downgraded by a huge amount for making a serious one. As an example, my mate was running the line at AG when we played Boro a few years ago and didn`t flag for that blatant handball by one of their defenders in front of the Atyeo. It would have meant a penalty and at least a yellow card. He told me later he had been dropped 40 places in the rankings because of it and went from being able to be a lino in the championship, league one and league 2, ref in the conference and in the JPT to only being able to run the line in league 2 and below. He`s only just worked his way back up to where he was before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwicolin Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Yes . They should be held accountable for their decisions. The club and fans suffer from their mistakes. I know it is a difficult job but talk to each other and make the right decision between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 They care as much if not more than us. Under so much pressure and yes mistakes happen and unfortunately human error is part of football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 5 hours ago, redmycolour said: Should refs and there assistant have to explain the reason for there wrong decision such as last night Tomlin not being offside and At Cardiff the lead up to there first goal there player being at least 2ft offside No. Because at that moment in time they believed it to be the correct decision. That's good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Shame we don't have a glut of refs. At the moment a poor performance sees a ref demoted to a lower league game, why should 'we' or league one or two be a punishment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 11 hours ago, redmycolour said: Should refs and there assistant have to explain the reason for there wrong decision such as last night Tomlin not being offside and At Cardiff the lead up to there first goal there player being at least 2ft offside What do you expect them to say? Clearly they make what they believe to be the right decision at the time, without the benefit of multiple slow-motion replays and freeeze frames. That is obvious so why would they need to explain that? And you can kid yourself about the Cardiff player being "2ft" offside if you want, it was mm and only truly clear with the benefit of a freeze frame and a straight line graphic from an elevated angle. For a linesman seeing it once at full speed it was so marginal it was effectively a 50:50 decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 6 hours ago, Bristol Rob said: Shame we don't have a glut of refs. At the moment a poor performance sees a ref demoted to a lower league game, why should 'we' or league one or two be a punishment? You will never again have a "glut" of refs. They are quitting in there 100's, why? Because of the constant abuse they get for every decision they make. 11 players will agree and 11 won't in every decision made. Then you get tv freeze framing offside decisions, why? linesman watch the ball get played and ' then' look across the line, during the 'then' one player may have moved up 3 yards and another gone forward 3 yards. Anyone who has never reffed or run the line should go and try it, criticism would then die out for the officials, because it's a fn hard job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, Portland Bill said: You will never again have a "glut" of refs. They are quitting in there 100's, why? Because of the constant abuse they get for every decision they make. 11 players will agree and 11 won't in every decision made. Then you get tv freeze framing offside decisions, why? linesman watch the ball get played and ' then' look across the line, during the 'then' one player may have moved up 3 yards and another gone forward 3 yards. Anyone who has never reffed or run the line should go and try it, criticism would then die out for the officials, because it's a fn hard job! Completely agree. That is the fundamental problem of the linesman's job - they are effectively being asked to look at two places at the same time. Quite literally impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HitchinRed Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 What would they say: a) I made a decision based on what I saw. b) I couldn't make a decision because I didn't see it. c) I know the decision was wrong, but I hate their manager and wanted them to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM88 Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 12 hours ago, redmycolour said: Should refs and there assistant have to explain the reason for there wrong decision such as last night Tomlin not being offside and At Cardiff the lead up to there first goal there player being at least 2ft offside 2ft? You're having a laugh. Centimètres in it, with a slow motion sky replay. Get a grip, mistakes happen, and will continue to until TMO comes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 9 hours ago, kiwicolin said: Yes . They should be held accountable for their decisions. The club and fans suffer from their mistakes. I know it is a difficult job but talk to each other and make the right decision between them. It's that simple is it? Please explain how talking to each other would have helped them get the Cardiff offside decision right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Smokescreen from LJ last night ...Tomlin hit a scuffed shot past a goalkeeper who didn't even dive because the ref had blown and other defenders had stopped . Tomlin himself may even have shot just because the whistle had blown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Believesham Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Our players need to be more clinical at the end of the day If you create so little going forward, all it takes is one decision going against you to draw or lose a game. If you're 2-0 up, it doesn't matter - that's football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Unfortunately football is all about opinions. Hence this site eh?!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 On 19/10/2016 at 19:45, JamesBCFC said: I wouldn't object to referees doing an interview post match, though perhaps immediately after wouldn't be ideal. A Swedish referee did this a few years ago and was widely praised. Yep, spot on....managers are quizzed immediately after a game and often get fined for their comments in the heat of the aftermath....refs should be subjected to the same scrutiny because they ruin so many weekends but they also make so many weekends. They have a ridiculous ability to influence the mood of thousands of people so at least be big enough to explain a few decisions. And alot of fans could accept a ref's honest mistake as long as they hear his reasons and his views on certain incidents. [Anyway, I'm off to write a song called In The Heat of the Aftermath as I can't believe I used that phrase above!] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 9 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Yep, spot on....managers are quizzed immediately after a game and often get fined for their comments in the heat of the aftermath....refs should be subjected to the same scrutiny because they ruin so many weekends but they also make so many weekends. They have a ridiculous ability to influence the mood of thousands of people so at least be big enough to explain a few decisions. And alot of fans could accept a ref's honest mistake as long as they hear his reasons and his views on certain incidents. [Anyway, I'm off to write a song called In The Heat of the Aftermath as I can't believe I used that phrase above!] I reckon someone like Europe or Toto would be well up for recording a song called that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Red Right Hand said: I reckon someone like Europe or Toto would be well up for recording a song called that! I'm on it! A cheesy number one hit single (remember them?!) could be my way out of this godforsaken hell-hole! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: I'm on it! A cheesy number one hit single (remember them?!) could be my way out of this godforsaken hell-hole! Just find any middle aged band with poodle hair and offer it to them. It could be the biggest hit since `The Final Countdown`! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: Just find any middle aged band with poodle hair and offer it to them. It could be the biggest hit since `The Final Countdown`! I'll split the royalties with you for being the inspiration....now there's another song idea, oh no, it's already been done by these guys.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 9 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: I'll split the royalties with you for being the inspiration....now there's another song idea, oh no, it's already been done by these guys.... Oi, I want some royalties too as you came up with it while replying to my post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 On 19/10/2016 at 22:47, kiwicolin said: Yes . They should be held accountable for their decisions. The club and fans suffer from their mistakes. I know it is a difficult job but talk to each other and make the right decision between them. How can you hold a Lino accountable for the Cardiff goal? No chance he should be marked down for that for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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