Ashtonwurzel Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Currently doing his best impression of the tall uncoordinated kid in the playground during a lunchtime kick about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjam!n Ultra Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 That's not him performing an impression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Really bizarre game so many mistakes and Barca have been pretty poor still 3 up though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Make that 4... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Man C defence looks like they have never played as part of the same team before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Lucky for City that Barca had a off night! I think Stones lets all the attention and hype go to his head, he needs to knuckle down and learn the art of defending or he'll end up more Titus Bramble than Bobby Moore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 I said when he moved that the fee was ridiculous for a defender that can't defend and wants to be like Messi. Some people didn't like it and got quite upset. If he concentrated on being a defender, he may actually start living up to the fee. If Sterling and him are worth the combined money that those idiots paid, then it's no wonder most clubs are going abroad for players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 I don't know but it sounds painful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 That keeper for Man City is nowhere near as good as Hart - no wonder the national side is so shite when average crap like him replaces the no 1 England keeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 39 minutes ago, Rob k said: That keeper for Man City is nowhere near as good as Hart - no wonder the national side is so shite when average crap like him replaces the no 1 England keeper 2 x Copa America champion to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 12 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: 2 x Copa America champion to be fair And definitely AS good as Hart. Better? Well I'm not sure. But Joe Hart is no Banks, Shilton or Seaman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 That Bravo lad looks like a dismal signing, don't know if he's adjusting to English football but I can't imagine there's much adjusting nessecary as a keeper. I was never a fan of Joe Hart but based on that performance Bravo isn't even close to that level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Stones is poor really but in English terms he is world class - and there is the problem !! Did you see his header - watched the ball right on to his head, goal at his mercy and 3 foot wide - shocking stuff !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 I won't be too harsh on him. He's young for a central defender and I like that he tries to be calm in defence. It'll suit him when he learns when to stay on the ball or get rid. He didn't ask for his price tag. Give the guy a break. If he's the same player in 2-3 years then criticise. You want to support young English players not criticise them. Same with Sterling. They probably aren't worth the fees paid for them but that doesn't make them bad players. Both young with room to improve. Sterling is younger than Freeman I think and Stones is the same age as Magnusson to put into perspective and most here would defend either if they struggled a bit. Do the same for the national players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbored Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 The score line shows a convincing win but if you take away the mistakes and the magic of messi , there weren't really a lot on show and perhaps City were unlucky. What i dont get is the love in from the media for Barcelona , this morning on talksport and sky news the way they were talking it was like they watched a different game to me. Give praise and credit when its due but last night they both looked really average teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 24 minutes ago, Turbored said: The score line shows a convincing win but if you take away the mistakes and the magic of messi , there weren't really a lot on show and perhaps City were unlucky. What i dont get is the love in from the media for Barcelona , this morning on talksport and sky news the way they were talking it was like they watched a different game to me. Give praise and credit when its due but last night they both looked really average teams. That was the strange thing Barca were average and I have never seen Messi give the ball away so much yet still scores 3. City created lots of chances maybe they should of played their best striker from the start! what on earth was that all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Decent assist today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Calamity Stones is at it again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 27 minutes ago, yardy said: Calamity Stones is at it again! It was decreed a while ago that John Stones was the next best thing. He's believed the hype. Starts turning in some non-league defending. Time to go back to basics I think, however that's going to be a bit difficult under Pep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Stones will be fine for England he has Chris Smalling alongside him......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 It's worth remembering Stones is only 22. He will make mistakes. It just so happens, due to the way that he plays, his mistakes will be more spectacular than others. It does depress me a bit how quick people are to jump on young English players' backs when they make mistakes - no wonder that more often or not we end up with players who retreat into their shells and get really risk-averse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Its myopia LB. Here is Pep Guardiola a man thought to be one of the greatest football minds of all time playing a young Englishmen in a starting XI in the Premiership v bringing in yet another foreign star. That is something to be applauded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 I think he is class. He will improve. Even our own Flint makes mistakes!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtonwurzel Posted October 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 3 hours ago, Super said: Stones will be fine for England he has Chris Smalling alongside him......... AKA Stan and Ollie ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtonwurzel Posted October 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 3 hours ago, LondonBristolian said: It's worth remembering Stones is only 22. He will make mistakes. It just so happens, due to the way that he plays, his mistakes will be more spectacular than others. It does depress me a bit how quick people are to jump on young English players' backs when they make mistakes - no wonder that more often or not we end up with players who retreat into their shells and get really risk-averse. Exactly he his 22 !!! and not a teenager. The excuse that he is young and therefore can keep repeating the same basic mistakes is surely now redundant. Lucky for him he has been selected as the special one by the media ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 5 minutes ago, Ashtonwurzel said: Exactly he his 22 !!! and not a teenager. The excuse that he is young and therefore can keep repeating the same basic mistakes is surely now redundant. Lucky for him he has been selected as the specila on by the media ! 22 is still extremely young for a defender. People have unrealistic expectations of footballers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtonwurzel Posted October 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 15 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: 22 is still extremely young for a defender. People have unrealistic expectations of footballers. Fair enough but he keeps doing the same crazy things and it is worrying that if he hasn't learnt not to do them by the age of 22 then is he ever going to get it ? Coaches are being very, very patient with him to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 26 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: 22 is still extremely young for a defender. People have unrealistic expectations of footballers. It's his nonchalance that has to be a worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 15 hours ago, Ashtonwurzel said: Exactly he his 22 !!! and not a teenager. The excuse that he is young and therefore can keep repeating the same basic mistakes is surely now redundant. Lucky for him he has been selected as the special one by the media ! He has been selected by Pep Guardiola. A statement in itself with all the riches at Manchester City Mr Guardiola wanted a English talent. The expansive manner he is expected to play e,g bringing the ball out of the thirds, into and under pressure etc will lead to mistakes. Mistakes which as he develops and makes better decisions will (hopefully) lessen in frequency. That enlightened approach needs to be encouraged if England as a football nation are to progress beyond a nation looked upon as fit but limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtonwurzel Posted October 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 34 minutes ago, Cowshed said: He has been selected by Pep Guardiola. A statement in itself with all the riches at Manchester City Mr Guardiola wanted a English talent. The expansive manner he is expected to play e,g bringing the ball out of the thirds, into and under pressure etc will lead to mistakes. Mistakes which as he develops and makes better decisions will (hopefully) lessen in frequency. That enlightened approach needs to be encouraged if England as a football nation are to progress beyond a nation looked upon as fit but limited. He is not good enough to play that way. Amazed that coaches are willing to experiment with him in first team games and watch him cost them roughly a goal every 2 games. Needs to practice his Harlem Globetrotters skills either on loan or in the under 23's for 6 months. The shocking thing is that Stones and Smalling are the England centre halves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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