Welcome To The Jungle Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 We have had none all season. Patterson, Bryan and O'Dowda are all central and Little and Golbourne offer nothing. We get bogged down in the middle where there is no space. Against the lesser sides Tomlin and Tammy can bail us out but against organised teams like Brighton and Newcastle we create nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_LIAM Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: We have had none all season. Patterson, Bryan and O'Dowda are all central and Little and Golbourne offer nothing. We get bogged down in the middle where there is no space. Against the lesser sides Tomlin and Tammy can bail us out but against organised teams like Brighton and Newcastle we create nothing. Exactly what happened tonight, couldn't agree more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: We have had none all season. Patterson, Bryan and O'Dowda are all central and Little and Golbourne offer nothing. We get bogged down in the middle where there is no space. Against the lesser sides Tomlin and Tammy can bail us out but against organised teams like Brighton and Newcastle we create nothing. In fairness Bryan, on good form, can offer that width for us and can put in good crosses. However, Paterson, Freeman and particularly disappointingly COD all look to come inside all the time which is part of the problem of getting service to Tammy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Tammy needs someone up with him....simple in principal but not when you have tomlin and have to fit him somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_LIAM Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, Londoner said: Tammy needs someone up with him....simple in principal but not when you have tomlin and have to fit him somewhere 4,4,2 diamond wide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Patterson reminded me of Freeman tonight, slowed down in 1-on-1 situations and eventually passed sideways. I'd like to see Bryan and O'Dowda as the wingers. Brighton had success in 1-on-1s in wide areas tonight. We didn't regular enough width or when we got there didn't win those battles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, BCFC_LIAM said: 4,4,2 diamond wide Which leaves massive gaps in the middle of the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Bryan was shocking - left back or sub !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Would it have mattered, how often did we actually have anyone in or running into the box - you could argue it's because they know the balls not coming, but the odd few times it does, there is no-one there for miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 No width with Bryan and Paterson both coming inside, yet Brighton were still in control in midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Somerset Red Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Found myself shaking my head all game with the amount of sideways passing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genghis Khan's pants Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 2 hours ago, Fiale said: Would it have mattered, how often did we actually have anyone in or running into the box - you could argue it's because they know the balls not coming, but the odd few times it does, there is no-one there for miles. This - on one occasion Bryan got behind the full back and shaping to cross - in the 18yrd area and slightly ouside a grand total of one City player (Abraham) as opposed to 4/5 Brighton players and this was 2-0 down. He got the cross in, over Abraham, easily cleared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_b Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Ironically, since this interview (http://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/bryan-determined-to-stay-at-left-back-3337379.aspx) Joe Bryan has either been poor or not playing at LB. And then poor there also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 The idea of 'Little bombing it down the wing at any chance and Paterson moving inside' did not work. It was so obvious as an instruction, but yet still so ineffective and obvious. Hey ho. Also nice to see we didn't miss Freeman tonight. Was glad Pato could fill his role of running around in circles and back & forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnzFM Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 Obviously been told to play more compact and narrower, Johnsons mistake in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohbasso Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 I've been thinking for a while that we could do with an out and out winger in January, someone who will stay wide, can beat a man and can get the ball in the box. All of our wingers regularly want to come inside which is a big part of why Tammy's not getting any service, if we had someone getting to the byline dragging balls back for him I think he'd thrive on it. There must be loads of players like this at prem academies, hopefully lee's already got one lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredd Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 Too many of our wide players coming inside. It's easier to defend against and stifles Tomlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 Yes no width corners are a joke and set peices lm sure need working on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 17 minutes ago, RobintheRed Red said: Yes no width corners are a joke and set peices lm sure need working on Have there been any corners or free kicks this season where you would think 'that was a move they've obviously practised in training'? Very poor on set pieces imho and no sign of the supposedly enlightened coaching that LJ is often claimed to exhibit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 I don't think signing a out right winger will help as it's not how we are playing. The players are being instructed to come inside, if they were constantly ignoring LJ's instructions Johnson would not pick them. look at the beginning of the season when the players were new and had not played much / been coached much in our playstyle so were expressing their own ideas. We had width, we were getting crosses into the box that Tammy was converting, we were getting to the byline and charging towards the near post and laying the ball of to players running into the box - all the stuff we as fans like to see, but as the season has progressed we have seen less and less of this as they are coached into the style of play and being instructed in a certain playstyle. Hopefully we will see results soon in this more narrow over loading in the box / D - but it's not really much fun to watch at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobArnold10 Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 Yesterday I thought Paterson needed a lesson from our Scotty on how to play down the wing, terrible for coming inside far too often. Most notable was actually for the second goal, he stays outside then GON has an easy pass, we attack, no second goal. Instead he comes inexplicably inside, gives O'Neil a really hard pass to make, and we know he rest. A lot of people were quick to have a go at GON about the second goal but for me that's where it went wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 16 hours ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: We have had none all season. Patterson, Bryan and O'Dowda are all central and Little and Golbourne offer nothing. We get bogged down in the middle where there is no space. Against the lesser sides Tomlin and Tammy can bail us out but against organised teams like Brighton and Newcastle we create nothing. We need pace.. It's what we lack and what you won't get promoted from this division without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 Paterson isn't an out an out winger....all his career he has been cutting inside. COD is the only one along with bryan IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 2 minutes ago, Londoner said: Paterson isn't an out an out winger....all his career he has been cutting inside. COD is the only one along with bryan IMO Bryan? Really? He is to natural wing play what ROD is to backwards running!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 As I said elsewhere, we have 4 wingers (if you include JB) all left footed, they all have had a go on the right and cut back on their good foot. The other side they didn't do much better, if you do the same thing all the time it's easy to defend , and SG is not going to overlap too often and Little is struggling going forward or back. If we are going to play with no width then at least the 'other 2 midfielders' have to bomb on and support or even pass Tammy. and give Tomlin,GON and the rest a target , the lack of movement is a real problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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