old_eastender Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Having survived leading us to 9 defeats in 10 games, something that would have resulted in almost any other manager at any other club being dismissed, LJ has been predictably backed in the transfer window. Now he has 3 experienced new players running down the spine on the team, he has to start delivering results. Today's game (I will be there supporting the team) is a bit of a free pass, I suspect the 2 foreign signings will not play. The following 4 Jan league games are then crucial, I really hope these new signings provide the spur we need to start getting some wins on the board again, but should we see no wins in those 4 Jan games I would not be surprised to see a new manager in charge for Rotherham at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Probably a fair statement. He does need to start getting some wins now and I believe that he can... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 I would expect the new signings to play in our strongest line up...whatever that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cloud Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 11 minutes ago, old_eastender said: Having survived leading us to 9 defeats in 10 games, something that would have resulted in almost any other manager at any other club being dismissed, LJ has been predictably backed in the transfer window. Now he has 3 experienced new players running down the spine on the team, he has to start delivering results. Today's game (I will be there supporting the team) is a bit of a free pass, I suspect the 2 foreign signings will not play. The following 4 Jan league games are then crucial, I really hope these new signings provide the spur we need to start getting some wins on the board again, but should we see no wins in those 4 Jan games I would not be surprised to see a new manager in charge for Rotherham at home. great post, LJ has no excuses now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 12 minutes ago, old_eastender said: I would not be surprised to see a new manager in charge for Rotherham at home. What, even though Ashton (and therefore Lansdown) has made it absolutely clear that that isn't going to happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, Doozerchris said: I would expect the new signings to play in our strongest line up...whatever that is. I agree with this as it makes sense to give them some match practice in a relatively unimportant game. Even if they don't all play 90 minutes it's better than starting their first match against Cardiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Pressure was on LJ from Day one, in life every professional is under pressure to achieve results , The higher up the food chain you are , the more it builds . In time LJ will pass on to pastures new , for most people the stress is too much for more than a few years. I believe he will come good , the team around him is top class and with SL's backing we should start to get back on track . I predict a rather nervy 2-1 win against Fleetwood followed up by a 3-0 win against Cardiff . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Fleetwood must look at our form and be up for it today. They are not a bad side, still in the playoff slots... so should be a good game / test for the new lads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtonwurzel Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 All 3 new players will start today. Preparing them for the league games head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 1 hour ago, old_eastender said: Having survived leading us to 9 defeats in 10 games, something that would have resulted in almost any other manager at any other club being dismissed, LJ has been predictably backed in the transfer window. Now he has 3 experienced new players running down the spine on the team, he has to start delivering results. Today's game (I will be there supporting the team) is a bit of a free pass, I suspect the 2 foreign signings will not play. The following 4 Jan league games are then crucial, I really hope these new signings provide the spur we need to start getting some wins on the board again, but should we see no wins in those 4 Jan games I would not be surprised to see a new manager in charge for Rotherham at home. Do I detect that you actually want us to lose these four games or I am just being cynical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Doozerchris said: I would expect the new signings to play in our strongest line up...whatever that is. Do they have clearance?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Pretty sure they do . Had to be registered before 12pm yesterday I believe. @Robert the bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 I don't think there will be much pressure today, this game has come at a good time. We can forget the woes of our league form for a fortnight and all enjoy a bit of cup magic. The real pressure is Cardiff and Forest. With our enhanced squad, we should be looking at taking 4 pts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 As much as we need a win, if we start the 3 new signings, he gets a pass from me if we don't do well. Today should be used, if it can in regards to clearance, as a game to get the new guys to gel with the squad. I still don't think we should struggle with Fleetwood with the new signings but if we do, as long as they play, then I'll keep in mind it should help for the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 12 minutes ago, Doozerchris said: Pretty sure they do . Had to be registered before 12pm yesterday I believe. @Robert the bruce Cheers..could be an interesting afternoon.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Caught a bit of Talksport earlier. They saw this as an upset in waiting potentially their tipster said 2-1 Fleetwood so pressure is on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted January 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 24 minutes ago, Malago said: Do I detect that you actually want us to lose these four games or I am just being cynical. You are being cynical, I'm no fan of LJ but I want the club to have success. I genuinely hope the new signings will enable us to turn things around, but if LJ was to fail to get us a win in the next 4 league games with the benefit of the new signings, then I suspect SLs desire to see the club succeed would override his empathy for LJ and he would be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 19 minutes ago, old_eastender said: You are being cynical, I'm no fan of LJ but I want the club to have success. I genuinely hope the new signings will enable us to turn things around, but if LJ was to fail to get us a win in the next 4 league games with the benefit of the new signings, then I suspect SLs desire to see the club succeed would override his empathy for LJ and he would be gone. Good post. I think you (and I) are not alone in really wanting to see City succeed but being sceptical of LJ. unfortunately it seems to some people if you're in any way critical of the manager, you are somehow anti-Bristol City... which is insane! hes been backed incredibly well, deserves January... to be honest just the law of averages says things will improve! If things should not improve then the board have a decision to make but we'd almost certainly be in the relegation places. For what it's worth my expectation is an upturn in results. What I really hope for is a consistency of formation and selection to give he players a fair chance of succeeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 9 minutes ago, Mendip City said: Good post. I think you (and I) are not alone in really wanting to see City succeed but being sceptical of LJ. unfortunately it seems to some people if you're in any way critical of the manager, you are somehow anti-Bristol City... which is insane! hes been backed incredibly well, deserves January... to be honest just the law of averages says things will improve! If things should not improve then the board have a decision to make but we'd almost certainly be in the relegation places. For what it's worth my expectation is an upturn in results. What I really hope for is a consistency of formation and selection to give he players a fair chance of succeeding. By the very nature of being critical of the manager you're undermining the club and having a negative effect on its prospects. If you don't like the manager better to keep it toyourself and let those who actually are responsible make their own mind up about his future. Shouting from the sidelines and spreading negativity doesn't help anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 9 minutes ago, Malago said: By the very nature of being critical of the manager you're undermining the club and having a negative effect on its prospects. If you don't like the manager better to keep it toyourself and let those who actually are responsible make their own mind up about his future. Shouting from the sidelines and spreading negativity doesn't help anybody. What are you, the thought police? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 22 minutes ago, Malago said: By the very nature of being critical of the manager you're undermining the club and having a negative effect on its prospects. If you don't like the manager better to keep it toyourself and let those who actually are responsible make their own mind up about his future. Shouting from the sidelines and spreading negativity doesn't help anybody. I take your point but this is a forum for discussion. I'm never at the game from the sideline 'spreading negativity'. In fact I don't see anyone doing that. I desperately want to see City do well (and have done for approaching 40 years) as does everyone here and at games, so far as I can see. I really think you're giving me and this forum too much credit saying it's possible to 'undermine the club' through the power of discussion. I wouldn't think SL gives a monkey's what's said on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 24 minutes ago, cityloyal473 said: What are you, the thought police? No, I'm just expressing my opinion that continually criticising the manager is not helpful to the club an it's prospects and to pretend otherwise is a self delusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, Malago said: No, I'm just expressing my opinion that continually criticising the manager is not helpful to the club an it's prospects and to pretend otherwise is a self delusion. That's your opinion. Others see it differently and have a right to voice their opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Malago said: Do I detect that you actually want us to lose these four games or I am just being cynical. Cynical the op is right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 16 minutes ago, Mendip City said: I take your point but this is a forum for discussion. I'm never at the game from the sideline 'spreading negativity'. In fact I don't see anyone doing that. I desperately want to see City do well (and have done for approaching 40 years) as does everyone here and at games, so far as I can see. I really think you're giving me and this forum too much credit saying it's possible to 'undermine the club' through the power of discussion. I wouldn't think SL gives a monkey's what's said on here. I think your last point is very true. I guess everyone has their own reasons for using this forum, but as you've said ultimately it's all a complete waste of time, because none of us has any influence on what happens at AG. That said, the continual drip, drip, drip of negativity gets on my tits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 44 minutes ago, Malago said: By the very nature of being critical of the manager you're undermining the club and having a negative effect on its prospects. If you don't like the manager better to keep it toyourself and let those who actually are responsible make their own mind up about his future. Shouting from the sidelines and spreading negativity doesn't help anybody. How is that so? Do you really think LJ and the team have the time to trawl through this forum and take to heart a bunch of opinions from people who mostly know little about football management? And even if they did, do you think they would go into a sulk about it and let it affect performances? Of course not. You cant expect people not to be cynical and critical when we are on our worst run of form in 11 years. Like yourself, I also tire of constant negativity and find it draining but if I dont want to read it, I simply give this forum a wide berth. Its far far less helpful in my opinion to pretend everything is OK when it blatantly isn't and if people want to vent frustrations here then fair enough, as long as they are behind the team come kickoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 27 minutes ago, Malago said: I think your last point is very true. I guess everyone has their own reasons for using this forum, but as you've said ultimately it's all a complete waste of time, because none of us has any influence on what happens at AG. That said, the continual drip, drip, drip of negativity gets on my tits. Fair enough - I guess we've different negativity thresholds. I described myself a sceptical of LJ. Said he'd beeen incredibly well backed, expect results to improve and that he should be given at least January. I'm not sure it's negative. I think if LJ gets back to a settled formation and team, trying to impose ourselves on the opppsition then we will be fine. I reckon he's not been quite as positive recently. Today is a great opportunity to turn things around. So let's hope we take it. We're all City fans on here and there are lots of ways of showing it. Spare a thought for me..... I desperately want a win today because ive not made my usual 450 mile round trip and I'm stuck here 20 miles from... Fleetwood. Gawd help me if we lose! It's bad enough with Preston always turning us over!!! Here's to 3 or 4 quick wins and all the LJ talk can be filed away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 40 minutes ago, Kim_il_sung said: How is that so? Do you really think LJ and the team have the time to trawl through this forum and take to heart a bunch of opinions from people who mostly know little about football management? And even if they did, do you think they would go into a sulk about it and let it affect performances? Of course not. You cant expect people not to be cynical and critical when we are on our worst run of form in 11 years. Like yourself, I also tire of constant negativity and find it draining but if I dont want to read it, I simply give this forum a wide berth. Its far far less helpful in my opinion to pretend everything is OK when it blatantly isn't and if people want to vent frustrations here then fair enough, as long as they are behind the team come kickoff. No way, how can they not read this forum and take the expert advice of posters like Londoner who has infinite knowledge on everything and everything including football management... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjam!n Ultra Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 3 hours ago, Malago said: By the very nature of being critical of the manager you're undermining the club and having a negative effect on its prospects. If you don't like the manager better to keep it toyourself and let those who actually are responsible make their own mind up about his future. Shouting from the sidelines and spreading negativity doesn't help anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 5 hours ago, Malago said: Do I detect that you actually want us to lose these four games or I am just being cynical. I think he's being realistic and your being cynical!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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